They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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52 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

In the end, Mike Woodson is a public employee.  If a person that is paid -- not sure if he is the highest paid public employee in Indiana, but he's up there -- refuses to answer to the media and is a pain to anyone who has legitimate questions -- then they should face criticism.

[JSHoosier 21,057]

32 minutes ago, GloryDays said:

Please,no to Little Dick Pitino!

I don't want him either. This is IU though and can never get these hires right so we should probably prepare to be disappointed.

[Hoosierfan2017 22,573]

14 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Yes, I've seen it said in here that there should be special places in hell for those involved. Seen Woodson called a POS.

I stated for a while that I am in favor of Woodson being terminated. I also stated that I wouldn't be involved in any sort of character assassination. No need to go down that road, imo. Only makes the poster(s) and this forum look bad.

Woody showed his true character during his four years as head coach. Criticizing said demonstrated character isn’t “character assassination.” 

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1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

Absolutely would love it.

53 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

The shenanigans around the whole Woodson tenure certainly would warrant an investigation. The latest episode hijacking an IU jet for personal use is more evidence.

If there's graft and corruption in any of this, it needs to be exposed and the guilty held accountable. Corruption? Malfeasance? Misuse of university assets?

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody showed his true character during his four years as head coach. Criticizing said demonstrated character isn’t “character assassination.” 

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO. He could have just said "Hey, I tried my best, but I just can't seem to get it done. I don't want to drag the university that I love through the mud and more losses, so I am going to step down and start my next chapter in life...retirement"...He would have been cheered and that is how he would have been remembered.... Woody chooses the hard way.

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1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

I heard for years few would never come here. What changed?

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NIL

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47 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

What does that even mean?

There is now no way Woodson will be the coach next year, it's already public that he won't be.

Does it mean he wants to "make some noise" with the team by winning some games? In that case, what is he actually going to do differently than he was doing before? What he's been doing wasn't working. Is he going to start trying all of a sudden? In that case, he should be fired for not putting in the effort until he was being shown the door. I guess some of the last few games look winnable, just like last year. So maybe they could win some games and feel like they turned it around when it was actually just a favorable schedule.

I don't really care what Woodson does at this point. He won't be the coach after this year. I don't think he can fix his image/coaching legacy in the last few games. It's more likely it's just more embarrassment for himself.

Right? I mean, I HOPE that Woody has already been trying as hard as he possibly could to win games. LOL

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1 minute ago, SlammySammy said:

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO.

Dude is using a high-powered scope. His aim is true.

[AZ Hoosier 8,599]

51 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

At my desk at the office for another day of blowing off work and refreshing this page.  Good luck to all my follow "true fans" on not getting caught by your bosses today reading, posting and refreshing.  Cheers all and let's have a great weekend! 

Word.

BTW, I'm retired and my boss is at work. 

Now, let's get this entitled, incompetent Parasite in Chief fired...

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All star break starts next week

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Having slept on it, I’ve come to the conclusion it had to be Woody’s camp that leaked all the nonsense. It paints IU into a corner from a professional standpoint. Making this seem like “woody’s choice” has made it essentially impossible for IU to spot fire him. 
 

It might be about contract leverage for the buyout, but I doubt that, Woody is owed more if he is fired for performance than he will get in a negotiation. He has no bargaining position. What he has, is the ability to craft a narrative that does maximum pain to the University and maximum protection of his fragile ego. That’s where we are. Woody is not leaving the sideline unless he chooses to. Period. That’s clear (and whether Dolson wanted to spot fire or not, now he can’t ) and it is due to Woody controlling the narrative. There is simply no reason for IU to allow or want some narrative such as what leaked about “contemplating” or “unlikely to coach next season.” FOH. Zero chance that came from the university. 

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51 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The guys on Facebook are demanding we show the king respect. Lol. The same king who trashed us all.

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Not surprising... I've been off that cesspool for over 10 years... would possibly miss Woodson more than I have FB, TBH*.

* neither would be missed at all

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3 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO. He could have just said "Hey, I tried my best, but I just can't seem to get it done. I don't want to drag the university that I love through the mud and more losses, so I am going to step down and start my next chapter in life...retirement"...He would have been cheered and that is how he would have been remembered.... Woody chooses the hard way.

Woodson is former Hoosier great who was basically a hero for how he came back from an injury and won B1G MVP. 

The public was willing to give him every single benefit of the doubt, but he's been so incredibly thin-skinned and arrogant. He's wasted every bit of good-will available to him. 

Let's face it, Woody has not shown himself to be any sort of genius through his whole coaching tenure. Great athleticism does not equal intelligence. I'm absolutely not saying that the dumb jock stereotype is true in most cases. In Woody's case, though, I'm wondering. It's either that or he's just really lazy...

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16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

As for who knows where the origin of the word “discussion” comes from or the idea Woody is “contemplating” retiring … yes, likely a degree of media not erroneously reporting. But also this was all just smoke from burners before Goodman jumped in with that wording and everyone else piled on. It could be just as simple as that, it could also be that Mike’s camp got ahead of all the rumors and said he’s “contemplating” it to make it look like he’s not getting fired. And if he doesn’t finish at end of season, as is “currently expected” while the “terms of exit are negotiated” then it will be obvious Dolson canned him. Been a lot of talk about wanting to avoid those optics, for obvious reasons. Bottom line IMO: the “contemplating” narrative is only helpful to one side and it’s not IU

Agree, just my point. People getting upset at IU because they think IU not being decisive and coddling Woodson . Don’t think any of this coming from IU administration. Do think as a past IUBB player of significance there shouldn’t be a public ***** slapping. 

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1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Not surprising... I've been off that cesspool for over 10 years... would possibly miss Woodson more than I have FB, TBH*.

* neither would be missed at all

Ditto. I came to the conclusion that everyone in the FB group is a bot or on heavy painkillers all day long. There's no way to be THAT positive and cheery in the face of total mediocrity for years and years and years. 

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1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

He there yet?

Maybe he parked around back.....lol

[steubenhoosier 1,292]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody showed his true character during his four years as head coach. Criticizing said demonstrated character isn’t “character assassination.” 

Agreed. But there is a way to criticize without calling someone a POS. There's always that concept of being the bigger/better person.

There's also always the idea of not allowing this board devolve into what Big Blue Nation has become, and what many on here make fun of.

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Having slept on it, I’ve come to the conclusion it had to be Woody’s camp that leaked all the nonsense. It paints IU into a corner from a professional standpoint. Making this seem like “woody’s choice” has made it essentially impossible for IU to spot fire him. 
 

It might be about contract leverage for the buyout, but I doubt that, Woody is owed more if he is fired for performance than he will get in a negotiation. He has no bargaining position. What he has, is the ability to craft a narrative that does maximum pain to the University and maximum protection of his fragile ego. That’s where we are. Woody is not leaving the sideline unless he chooses to. Period. That’s clear (and whether Dolson wanted to spot fire or not, now he can’t ) and it is due to Woody controlling the narrative. There is simply no reason for IU to allow or want some narrative such as what leaked about “contemplating” or “unlikely to coach next season.” FOH. Zero chance that came from the university. 

Why can’t Dolson fire him if it’s Woodson who leaked this?

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58 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

At my desk at the office for another day of blowing off work and refreshing this page.  Good luck to all my follow "true fans" on not getting caught by your bosses today reading, posting and refreshing.  Cheers all and let's have a great weekend! 

As a middle school teacher.. I'm a master of my own domain and my principal is an IU fan so he totally gets it...

[Hoosier DaDa 3,236]

1 hour ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Braden Smith, Jack Benter, and TKR wouldn't be Boilers, you say? Smh

Probably not Loyer, but he certainly wouldn't have been starting as a FR, maybe not last year. 

Why are you singling out certain players?  That wasn't what he was saying.  He was just talking about the approach jeez.