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Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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It’s heartbreaking to watch this happening right before our eyes. An IU legend being booed, mocked and dragged - by his own right or not - is saddening. I’m as guilty as anyone, but how can we fans be blamed? The University created this mess. 
 
I was not even around when Woodson played, but I know how painfully terrible this is. Why does our University make things so much harder for itself? Tradition is obviously big at Indiana, but why have they allowed us to get away from it as far as product on the court for as long as we have? I have so many questions and most are culture/process-centric. 
Well it may be but Woodson and certain people created this. He could of left after two years if he was the bridge he claimed he was. But these guys are arrogant and I'm convinced they simply don't want to admit they made a mistake. It's why hiring a former player is always a very risky venture. Especially when they never coached college. It is what it is now.

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52 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Which goes back to my theory that he knew something was off about Woody but helping his friend was more important... bringing in Matta to help him get acclimated to college ball? I call bulls*it...

Would I be wrong in saying that would be embezzlement/fraud? If he knew something was off and forced the hire anyway just seems really shady to me.

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Dolson needs to walk in Woody’s office tomorrows and go

“Okay Mike, we all know this is over. Here is the two options.
1. By 12Noon on Tuesday, you announce that you are stepping down/retiring at the end of the season
Or
2. I will make my own announcement at 12Noon Tuesday and my decision will be be effective immediately. So either save what dignity and face you have with this university, or you’ll be escorted out”

That’s my dream.


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Would I be wrong in saying that would be embezzlement/fraud? If he knew something was off and forced the hire anyway just seems really shady to me.
Quinn knew this was his last shot and getting him in and took it. It's odd though though a booster paid Archie's buyout so you would have expected a much more serious search. But guys like hillman and even aj guyton were screaming to hire iu guy so quinn pounced. Probably wasn't the iu guy they had hoped for.

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On 1/25/2025 at 7:46 PM, JerryYeagley23 said:

In my opinion you’re missing a few, but either way I wouldn’t want to be pitching against UNC because they’re likely looking for a home run hire of their own if it came to that. 

North Carolina with a Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard would be terrifying.

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1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

North Carolina with a Bruce Pearl or Chris Beard would be terrifying.

I think people would be surprised by what UNC would do. That said Hubert will get another year.

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6 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

Hopefully we hear some more news of things that could happen today. Anxious to see if anything else comes of what Chris said about major donors having enough. Fridays game at Purdue, will definitely make the team/Woodson a laughing stock. 

It would be fun to have an interim coach that could maybe get a performance out of our $6M roster.  This team can be better (duh!).  If we stick with Woody we're toast.

Interesting the donors that probably backed Woody after last season now want a change.  Our donors are idiots, they need to stop meddling because they have no idea what they're doing.  Just send the checks and shut up.

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I’m now on the side that if optics is playing a role, and he is for sure gone, then now is a perfect time. I don’t know anyone personally who would be surprised or upset if he was fired. But letting him stay opens the possibility that IU squeaks into the tourney or wins some games against good teams. Then optics may get dicey. No reason to risk that. 

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45 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

It would be fun to have an interim coach that could maybe get a performance out of our $6M roster.  This team can be better (duh!).  If we stick with Woody we're toast.

Interesting the donors that probably backed Woody after last season now want a change.  Our donors are idiots, they need to stop meddling because they have no idea what they're doing.  Just send the checks and shut up.

I still think we get an interim not on staff, like Crean or Fife!  
 

Whenever money is involved, the stakeholders want a return on their investment to 

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6 hours ago, Hornsby said:

No it just proves money can't make a bad coach better.

https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1883593888029720584

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Money can make a bad coach better.  It just can't make a bad coach good.  Can you imagine what Woodson's team would look like without the money?

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8 hours ago, hoosierbannerd said:

If they can Woody and have an interim, I would probably actually watch the rest of this season just to see how these guys react to a different voice and knowing the interim will only be that for the remainder of the season. I don't think SD will f*ck up this next hire...

I agree, if Dolson fires Woodson today and places an interim coach in his place tomorrow, it would be clear to the interim that he is there to finish the season and nothing more.  That is why I think Crean is the perfect guy. He wants to get back into coaching and this would be a great audition for him for other schools.  He can take a good roster that was poorly coached and try to get them to win and make the tournament.  To me, it is a win-win for both sides.  Fife would be the other guy.  Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nads to Woodson, hiring a guy to replace him that he fired and Fife wins with this team, lol

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7 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I agree, if Dolson fires Woodson today and places an interim coach in his place tomorrow, it would be clear to the interim that he is there to finish the season and nothing more.  That is why I think Crean is the perfect guy. He wants to get back into coaching and this would be a great audition for him for other schools.  He can take a good roster that was poorly coached and try to get them to win and make the tournament.  To me, it is a win-win for both sides.  Fife would be the other guy.  Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nads to Woodson, hiring a guy to replace him that he fired and Fife wins with this team, lol

If Crean came in—and I’ll put this possibility at under 1%—and got them to the tourney he would immediately be a top candidate for the job. If nothing else the chorus from the doofuses in the media would be loud for IU to rehire their friend. There would be a hundred podcasts and articles about how we aren’t a top job anymore and his ceiling of S16s is about all we can expect, so it’s a bargain we should jump on. Some of the younger fans might even believe it. 
 

That would be a circus I would think even this administration is competent enough to shy away from. 

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4 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

....ohhh to know the dynamics of that locker room after the game!

I agree with your post on the odd Goode/coach/handshake thing.  
 

But the players do not seem to be on the same page. Goode, Leal, Galloway and Reneau were openly sniping at each other on the court over missed assignments. Multiple times. Nobody was on the same page for the last two possessions. 
 

This team is openly a wreck. Most of that is coaching but it looks like the players are at it among themselves. I’m sure some stories will leak out eventually. This is the worst I think I’ve seen it since the Dakich season or maybe Davis’s worst stretch. 

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12 hours ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Chris, I’m getting off of a plane so might be delayed while I travel home, but PM me when it’s convenient. Had an interesting text exchange after the game today. 

 

11 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I probably won’t be around too much longer. Have to drop the wifey off at the airport at 6am. But will be back here early in the morning. Hopefully hearing good news. 

......It's 8:08 a.m. I'm sitting at my HS classroom desk and the bell's about to ring in 17 minutes! lol 

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Here is a big IF. assuming Woodson and Buckner are partners in real estate in Bloomington and Buckner knows he has medical issues, but uses his influence to keep the millions rolling in for more investment Opportunities .would be curious to know. how their contracts are worded as partners.

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