Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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40 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Rumor has it that when @Class of '66 Old Fart first started on this board, both Millard Fillmore and Calvin Coolidge were regular posters.

And he only got on this board because he had some extra time on his hands after retiring. 

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8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

So your on record saying you want to stay with Woodson? You and NGW?

Absolutely not, Woodson never even should've been hired. An improvement from that is a low standard.

There has to be someone that's shown more than May we could hire.

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3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Didn't Bob Knight win a title on one bucket? 

2 buckets in 2 games...1 title.

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I’m still in the Pearl or bust mode. Hes proven and with our NIL and everything. He’d kill it. Bring him in for 5-7 year minimum, then we he leaves, we won’t even be looking at coaches from Dayton or FAU.

May will come in with so many expectations, I don’t see him being able to fufulll them to what we all want IU to be and IU will be back to mediocre at best, if not worst.

Will i take May over Woodson, hell yes. Will it immediately make me pumped for next season…meh


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I'd hire Collins over May.  Just a much safer hire imo.  I can totally see Dusty being bust.  Could be great.  It's really a coin flip.

  

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3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And Pearl could have a health issue in year 2, put his son in as interim coach, son gets hot with his dad's roster and gets the gig, and then we have a slow slide with Steven Pearl at the helm.

EVERY coach has upside and downside. As you said, May is not Archie (who, btw, had a damn good resume for a P5 job.

May's upside is a 25 year run. Can't get a higher upside than that.

Right. I think it boils down to what risks you see with each and how likely to occur/impactful those risks are... then you make the call based on your comfort level. Kind of like a baseball manager trying to decide whether to hit for a single or for the fences (maybe a bad analogy). For me, with where IUBB is, I'd rather the sure thing to help turn things around and build a foundation right now. But that doesn't mean Dusty can't also do that, then be here for 15-20 years where we are dominant. 

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3 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

I think several people, including Dolson and Woody, are grappling with the current results, the prospects for improvement, and the challenges of getting to a much better place. I’m not sure it’s fair to say that Dolson has made up his mind, and there are some others who still believe in MW. But Dolson isn’t trying to undermine Buckner or Woody by conducting some kind of shadowy PR effort. That would be counterproductive for him and could very well jeopardize both his reputation and career at IU. Plus, it’s not how he works.

Gotcha!  But it is safe to say that there is a plan in place?

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4 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I watched a play last night toward the end of the Purdue game that was odd compared to the way we play.  It was a broken play and the ball bounced off the backboard into Edey’s hands, instead of him putting it back up, he looks out to find Lance Jones in the corner, who hit a back breaking 3.  Our guys wouldn’t have done that but of course we have terrible shooting 

Honestly, though....it was a bad play by Edey.  He had a lay in.

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Just now, rcs29 said:

We need players that are evaluated by a competent staff that will that staff's system and give them the best chance to win championships. We've had plenty of talent and....well.

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That is 100% fair, and I agree. 

Just win baby! 

I do, however, think that a May hire (or even Pearl) injects a bolt of lightening into the state and they will show us what real recruiting looks like. Be out on the trail tirelessly. Be involved majorly (from the HC role). Remember, we still have plenty of $$ for the portal and a new hire breathes excitement into the program and gets some players interested that maybe wouldn't have been. Similar to the Cig stuff from football portal time. (All of this is mostly just hopes and wishes)

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6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Remember I said as of today. This could change several times before the BTT

Is this just the pulse of the department, or did you hear something?

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2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd hire Collins over May.  Just a much safer hire imo.  I can totally see Dusty being bust.  Could be great.  It's really a coin flip.

  

Yes, he should be on the list and higher than Dusty, IMO

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50 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Didn't Bob Knight win a title on one bucket? 

That was his third natty. Think he had proved himself at the P5 level a bit by then :)

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10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Not getting Bruce Pearl because he doesn’t want to come here is one thing. Not getting Bruce Pearl because the IU administration doesn’t support it? That would be entirely unacceptable. 

They hired Woodson because he played here 40 years ago. Let's not set the bar very high.

With their holier than though crap they love to pull? Entirely predictable.

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2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd hire Collins over May.  Just a much safer hire imo.  I can totally see Dusty being bust.  Could be great.  It's really a coin flip.

  

Do you think FAU has had more talent than NW in the last couple of seasons? I don't know the answer but interested in what you think.

I think they have both built up programs Dusty in a much quicker time frame but probably in an easier spot.

Dusty has one final four to Collins 0 sweet 16's

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2 minutes ago, SamIam said:

Is this just the pulse of the department, or did you hear something?

I'm going on things I have heard. 

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@KathywithaC 

I dated a Kathy with a C back some 10 years ago or so.  If you are the same one, can I have that $500 back I loaned you?

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Honestly, though....it was a bad play by Edey.  He had a lay in.

I know, he actually had a dunk but to pass it out to a competent shooter is something we haven’t seen and the guy was wide open and it was the dagger.  They hit a couple of bombs that were deflating to Illinois down the stretch 

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Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd hire Collins over May.  Just a much safer hire imo.  I can totally see Dusty being bust.  Could be great.  It's really a coin flip.

  

If you think about it the majority of coaches would be a bust if their goals are to win bigten titles and have a legitimate shots at a natty.  The more important part is that you have a legitimate administration that can make the right decisions quickly.  

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19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

So your on record saying you want to stay with Woodson? You and NGW?

Despite him saying he was undecided, I think Stuben was also Team Woodson.

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I will say that for the first time in 30 years I would be OK with Pearl and May as the next coach.