* Empire Classic * Indiana vs. UCONN Sunday 11/19/2023 1 pm ESPN @MSG

[Banksyrules]

This program is so cursed . 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Can’t shoot the ball.  Hard to comeback or extend leads when you have no snipers.   Sucks. 
 

I’ll admit, I’m jealous of winning programs. We just aren’t it. And maybe never will be. 

Gotta make the right hire. Kansas did it. UNC did it with Williams. Kentucky did it. It's all about making the right hire. I think Woody is good for healing some wounds between past and present, but as far as leading us back into the top tier... Don't think he's got the chops to do it. Which is why I only expected him to be around for 4-5 years at most.

[coonhounds]

We got smoked last year by Arizona and Kansas but still made the tourney. 
I’m not throwing in the towel but I don’t think our ceiling is real high. We are just not elite at the 1,2 or 3.

Yes we did. We also looked alot better in our other games. These guys don't look good at all. Hopefully they figure it out

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

This isn’t some stacked roster guys. This is a depleted and rebuilt UConn roster that lost about everyone and didn’t have their star freshman today. Still schooled us.  
 

I mean I didn’t expect to win but getting blown out is definitely disappointing.  

[JSHoosier]

3 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I do not see it happening. I am not sure we make nit. Strong take but I am not impressed. Really hopeful I am wrong

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The staff built this team, they own it 100%.  Missing the tournament would be bad for momentum, not making the NIT? Then there would have to be some accountability for that, beyond unacceptable.

[DChoosier]

Just now, Whoozhers said:

So much for being concerned if XJ will play. Non factor. More often than not. So far.

We really needed the end of the season X, from 2 years ago, to continue that type of play. He was great but unfortunately those 8-10 games are looking like an anomaly.

[monskisprodigy]

1 minute ago, HinnyHoosier said:

As long as he does it.... It will start to come when it matters. He's going to be one that has to step up this season. 

What’s funny is…he didn’t do his max vertical jump on the one after the whistle. Form looked great, good elevation, and it went in…during the game, he fades and jumps to the rafters. It’s mind boggling no one is correcting that.

[maharkn]

So much for being concerned if XJ will play. Non factor. More often than not. So far.

I said losing by 25 with X so I was close.

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[HoosierHoopster]

6 assists. Geez 

[FortWayneHoosier]

Only positives is Gunn played some great defense and Reneau had a hell of a game and he has found his sweet spot around the rim. Nothing else has impressed me. 

[JSHoosier]

3 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

As long as he does it.... It will start to come when it matters. He's going to be one that has to step up this season. 

Mgbako has to step up and play like a 5*.

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Why is anyone surprised by this rout? We are a bad team. Maybe the sunshine pumpers will finally realize that in Woodson’s 3rd year we ain’t looking good.

The reality is that we lost a ton and didn’t bring in enough to make up for it. And that was from an above average but not great IU team last year. We’re in for a rough season. Our outside shooting is utterly nonexistent, which is not how you want to play in 2023. We’re very weak on the perimeter. We heard so much about how Woodson doesn’t like playing with multiple big guys but was forced to do so with Trayce/Race. Well, neither are here anymore yet our frontcourt is still our only positive. 

[maharkn]

We got smoked last year by Arizona and Kansas but still made the tourney. 
I’m not throwing in the towel but I don’t think our ceiling is real high. We are just not elite at the 1,2 or 3.

If we get beat by Louisville tomorrow then I'll be concerned. Need to run play to get Mgbako shot. Everything they run is to get the post open and the guards can't get themselves open

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[DChoosier]

1 minute ago, maharkn said:

I said losing by 25 with X so I was close.

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I had us losing by 23. I’ve seen IU a couple of times at the Garden, and once in Brooklyn, but there was no way I was going to spend the hotel/train/ticket/bar cash for this one. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Gotta make the right hire. Kansas did it. UNC did it with Williams. Kentucky did it. It's all about making the right hire. I think Woody is good for healing some wounds between past and present, but as far as leading us back into the top tier... Don't think he's got the chops to do it. Which is why I only expected him to be around for 4-5 years at most.

Yeah, I don’t get it.  Woodson has coached at the highest level and been around basketball his whole life.  We have 5 stars and talent.  We don’t have any shooters but that was by our staff’s design.  We just aren’t even contenders.   I am not sure what it will take.  Shooters would help.  Modern basketball would help. Good basketball IQ would help. And if this game didn’t prove it to anyone, Reneau is our most important and likely best player.  He plays hard.  We need a few guard versions of him. 

[OliviaPope40]

This team's not walking out there.

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The reality is that we lost a ton and didn’t bring in enough to make up for it. And that was from an above average but not great IU team last year. We’re in for a rough season. Our outside shooting is utterly nonexistent, which is not how you want to play in 2023. We’re very weak on the perimeter. We heard so much about how Woodson doesn’t like playing with multiple big guys but was forced to do so with Trayce/Race. Well, neither are here anymore yet our frontcourt is still our only positive. 

He says that but that's the roster he put together.

[DChoosier]

3 minutes ago, maharkn said:

If we get beat by Louisville tomorrow then I'll be concerned. Need to run play to get Mgbako shot. Everything they run is to get the post open and the guards can't get themselves open

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I agree that losing to Louisville would be a very bad sign.

[Golfman25]

7 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

As long as he does it.... It will start to come when it matters. He's going to be one that has to step up this season. 

And monkeys may fly out of my butt. 

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah, I don’t get it.  Woodson has coached at the highest level and been around basketball his whole life.  We have 5 stars and talent.  We don’t have any shooters but that was by our staff’s design.  We just aren’t even contenders.   I am not sure what it will take.  Shooters would help.  Modern basketball would help. Good basketball IQ would help. And if this game didn’t prove it to anyone, Reneau is our most important and likely best player.  He plays hard.  We need a few guard versions of him. 

That absolutely was NOT the “staffs design”. They tried like hell to get shooters and thought they got one in MM.  Were  they successful in getting shooters? No they weren’t but it’s ridiculous to think that was their plan.