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9 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

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I couldn’t agree more with your take on this. It’s increasingly clear that there’s a disconnect between Coach Woodson’s public persona and the expectations we, as fans and followers of the program, have from someone in his position. It’s not just about the lack of basics in basketball execution or the off-court issues. It’s also about the commitment and seriousness we expect from a head coach. Seeing him more focused on leisure activities while the team struggles is disheartening and, frankly, a bit of a slap in the face.

Last night’s press conference incident only adds fuel to this fire. His dismissive attitude towards valid questions from the press and fans isn’t just disappointing; it’s alarming imho. It shows a lack of accountability and transparency, which are crucial for any leader. When he said, “I’m not answering your question or the fans,” it felt like a clear indication that he’s not as invested as he should be. This isn’t the kind of leadership that inspires confidence or respect.

Your point about other coaches like Dan Hurley, Painter, and Larranaga really drives home the contrast. These coaches seem to embody the grind and dedication we expect. They seem to understand that with such a high-profile and influential position comes a responsibility to be fully committed to the role, especially in challenging times.

And let’s talk about the way Woodson often speaks in the third person and appears self-aggrandizing. This sort of behavior is off-putting. It’s a far cry from the humble, team-first attitude that most of us value in everyday people, let alone in those who are supposed to be leaders. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to support a figure who seems to exhibit such a lack of humility and self-awareness.

I respect Woodson for his accomplishments and his love for Indiana Basketball. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt but there comes a point where one has to call it as it is. And right now, it seems like the program is being run by someone more interested in enjoying retirement perks than in grinding it out for the sake of the team’s success.

It’s a tough pill to swallow. 
 

I desperately hope Dolson and the people who financially impact our success, notice the same issues we do, and are willing to have some tough/direct conversations with Woodson. I just worry that CMW is too much of a narcissist to hear what anyone is saying. He doesn’t give anyone the impression that he’s willing to have his methods criticized in any way. 

Exactly, and he better right the ship in a hurry or he’ll go down with it.  The first thing he can start with is kicking Xavier Johnson off the team!

By the way, with this NIL crap, aren’t fans stakeholders?  And aren’t stakeholders entitled to answers in which Woodson doesn’t want to answer.   Seems a bit defensive if you ask me.

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By the way, with this NIL crap, aren’t fans stakeholders?  And aren’t stakeholders entitled to answers in which Woodson doesn’t want to answer.   Seems a bit defensive if you ask me.


It does suggest an arrogance.

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Just now, Ryno6284 said:

God bless you, Brian Evans!

I just listen to it!  I thought what Brian Evan’s said was spot on and it correlates with the rant that Kent Sterling had.  Most of the fans are thinking it too.  That fact that Woodson never dealt with Johnson’s other issues or Mgbako’s, tells us a lot.  According to him it was dealt with internally, well shouldn’t you be more transparent than that?

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18 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I just listen to it!  I thought what Brian Evan’s said was spot on and it correlates with the rant that Kent Sterling had.  Most of the fans are thinking it too.  That fact that Woodson never dealt with Johnson’s other issues or Mgbako’s, tells us a lot.  According to him it was dealt with internally, well shouldn’t you be more transparent than that?

I'm sure Evans did a good job, I'm not wasting my time listening to him. I just wonder why he is the person the media always goes to talk down about a coach. or a player or the program. He loves IU, but he sent his kids to different schools. Just glad they got him in the afternoon before he got going. Wonder if he is still begging companies to hire his family. Sorry just not a fan.

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7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sure Evans did a good job, I'm not wasting my time listening to him. I just wonder why he is the person the media always goes to talk down about a coach. or a player or the program. He loves IU, but he sent his kids to different schools. Just glad they got him in the afternoon before he got going. Wonder if he is still begging companies to hire his family. Sorry just not a fan.

His appearances on the Hysterics pod are awful. Guy is a total ****** .Honestly think he is worse than Dakich.

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29 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

God bless you, Brian Evans!

He wasn't happy and he's right. No body was pursuing Woodson when we hired him. With the lack of discipline and accountability you'd never know he played for Bob Knight.

He says Johnson needs to do better, but doesn't hold him accountable. He had 5 TOs before that stupid stunt that got him ejected, a 6th year guy doing that, but he'll start next game and play 30 minutes guaranteed. The staff should expect and demand better of him than that. They should've expected better than sneaking out of the hotel as a 4th year guy.  Johnson pulling crap like that sets a bad example and not being held accountable shows it's acceptable.

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23 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

He wasn't happy and he's right. No body was pursuing Woodson when we hired him. With the lack of discipline and accountability you'd never know he played for Bob Knight.

He says Johnson needs to do better, but doesn't hold him accountable. He had 5 TOs before that stupid stunt that got him ejected, a 6th year guy doing that, but he'll start next game and play 30 minutes guaranteed. The staff should expect and demand better of him than that. They should've expected better than sneaking out of the hotel as a 4th year guy.  Johnson pulling crap like that sets a bad example and not being held accountable shows it's acceptable.

Evans called Woody out, and rightly so. Nothing he said was not true. Woodson's arrogance is showing, and, frankly, he's lost my respect. Dammit, Woody, just go play golf.

Yep... X is one of 2 team captains and with all of his shenanigans, we can't understand why there's no leadership evident on this team...

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10 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Neither did hillman and hillman was the biggest cheerleader ever for hiring an iu guy. But I think hillman realizes he did not get what he thought he was getting now Look I want Woodson to succeed another new coaching search would suck. I am just not seeing any foundation or culture to build on.

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Where can I find the Hillman interview 

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Woody’s personality, at least what we see from him in the media and such, does seem a little grating/arrogant. He also seems to be a little lazy from the stories we’ve heard. He doesn’t come across as an high energy guy. Almost like he likes having the IU head coaching title but doesn’t care for the day to day grind. And hey, I don’t blame him. He turns 66 in two months. Nearing retirement age. A year-round like the IU job doesn’t give you the relaxation you may want after a long career.

Not all 65 year olds are the same. Some love to work and will grind until they die (or close to it). Others want to kick back and relax. Neither is “wrong,” but only one matches the P5 head coach job description. 

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10 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Neither did hillman and hillman was the biggest cheerleader ever for hiring an iu guy. But I think hillman realizes he did not get what he thought he was getting now Look I want Woodson to succeed another new coaching search would suck. I am just not seeing any foundation or culture to build on.

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I don't think anyone is rooting for him to fail. Just that there's a serious changes that need to be made and there's no signs of that happening, and if he won't even answer questions about his line change substitutions that clearly don't work then why would he change anything.

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45 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sure Evans did a good job, I'm not wasting my time listening to him. I just wonder why he is the person the media always goes to talk down about a coach. or a player or the program. He loves IU, but he sent his kids to different schools. Just glad they got him in the afternoon before he got going. Wonder if he is still begging companies to hire his family. Sorry just not a fan.

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3 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

I never said IU would; with the holier than thou crap they love to pull I know they wouldn't.

Holier than thou? The guy has show cause orders and multiple infractions. Maybe you’re not familiar with his background. There’s a reason he’s at Auburn. He’s a good coach. He’s also a straight cheater

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53 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

His appearances on the Hysterics pod are awful. Guy is a total ****** .Honestly think he is worse than Dakich.

I’ll have to give him a listen bc I can’t imagine anyone being worse than Dakich. 

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13 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Holier than thou? The guy has show cause orders and multiple infractions. Maybe you’re not familiar with his background. There’s a reason he’s at Auburn. He’s a good coach. He’s also a straight cheater

Really no such thing as cheating anymore.  Most things are legal.

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52 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

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As I said I'm just not a fan. Evans the person is a lot like the player. He cares about himself. The first bit of adversity he's the first person saying burn it down and start over. Then 2-3 years later he's back out there saying burn it down, start over. Believe me, he's not putting up the money to buy a coach out or paying money for the new coach or NIL money. I'm not sure any of the guys he played with, still like him. I know one for sure that doesn't. 

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sure Evans did a good job, I'm not wasting my time listening to him. I just wonder why he is the person the media always goes to talk down about a coach. or a player or the program. He loves IU, but he sent his kids to different schools. Just glad they got him in the afternoon before he got going. Wonder if he is still begging companies to hire his family. Sorry just not a fan.

Not a fan because of his take on a program he spent 5 years building on blood, sweat & tears? Or because of some other family issues non of us really care about? Systemic problems like players in trouble without getting disciplined lead to nutt shots and further embarrassment from a six year senior captain. Let’s get to the real heart of Indiana’s problems in year 3 of Woodson era where poor behavior and play gets promoted instead of arrests or turnovers get bench time. 

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9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As I said I'm just not a fan. Evans the person is a lot like the player. He cares about himself. The first bit of adversity he's the first person saying burn it down and start over. Then 2-3 years later he's back out there saying burn it down, start over. Believe me, he's not putting up the money to buy a coach out or paying money for the new coach or NIL money. I'm not sure any of the guys he played with, still like him. I now one for sure that doesn't. 

Is it you? Are you the former teammate? Don't lie Chris007 if that even is your real name!

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