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[AZ Hoosier 6,535]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

i don’t know what’s going on with Galloway.  No clue.  But if you are going to bench for effort, he’s not the guy to bench.  And there simply aren’t guys behind him that are providing much more so you are kind of stuck in just hoping he plays through it and turns his results into more what they were last year.

So, you think no consequences for crappy play is ok because "there simply aren't guys behind him"? That makes no sense, and leaves the inmates in charge of the asylum. While it's true that there may not be guys equal to Gallo when he's "on" (just the Kansas game, IMO), there ARE guys who bust their butts every day in practice and and who can play the position.

RMK benched the starters (including Henderson and Bailey) in 1994 at Minnesota to make his point. I doubt Woody has the stones.

https://www.deseret.com/1994/3/2/19094762/knight-s-team-gets-message-beats-illinois

[Kentuckysucks 2,206]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

One was 63 when he coached his first college basketball game the other is 63 and has been involved in coaching college basketball since 1982 as an assistant.  That would be the difference for me 

Pearl also has a lot more fire and just seems way younger.  Coach Cig doesn't seem nearly as old as he is either.

[colonel06 1,913]

JMV interview with Brian Evans was something else in terms of his frankness  on where we are and the dismal prospects going forward. He did not hold back!

[AZ Hoosier 6,535]

4 minutes ago, colonel06 said:

JMV interview with Brian Evans was something else in terms of his frankness  on where we are and the dismal prospects going forward. He did not hold back!

https://omny.fm/shows/the-ride-with-jmv-podcast/former-hoosier-brian-evans-joins-jmv

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

30 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Not taking a position one way or another on Pearl but I do find it mildly amusing that many thought Woody was too old - he's now 65 - but would embrace Pearl who is 63.   

Well you should know I like older men :)

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,845]

3 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

Well you should know I like older men :)

Oh yes I do!   xoxox

[JSHoosier 19,816]

42 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

Bruce Pearl would kill it here and it would be immediate.

He'd probably be my top choice among older coaches. IU was once his dream job but not sure he'd leave Auburn to come here at this point.

I'd like to see more from May, they had a good run last year but have some bad losses this year.

[HoosierHoopster 6,768]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Oh yes I do!   xoxox

Mrs Old Fart says — Whaaaat??

[HoosierHoopster 6,768]

2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

He'd probably be my top choice among older coaches. IU was once his dream job but not sure he'd leave Auburn to come here at this point.

I'd like to see more from May, they had a good run last year but have some bad losses this year.

Pearl has a history outside of coaching acumen - as in run ins with the ncaa and outside the lines stuff. No chance IU would hire him. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,673]

All of these ranked teams losing on the road makes me feel much better about la…..ahhhh f&$# I can’t do it. I tried but nope, it doesn’t make it better. Last night was so bad. Can’t square that one in any way. 

[HoosierTrav 7,729]

12 hours ago, realTomCrean said:

I'm not saying a HC can't have hobbies, enjoy a cigar, drink, or kick back with some buddies from time to time - but when your team (players, assistants) are barely treading water, struggling with basics of basketball (Free throws, blocking out, TO issues due to lack of O gameplan/execution, middling at best scouting reports, and numerous off-court issues) and I see the HC smokin and jokin, talking about tee times, telling press that he won't answer their (or the fans) questions about obvious mistakes.. maybe coach should start logging some 14–16-hour days consecutively (maybe string that into a few weeks w/ no breaks) and worry about cigars/tee times/friends less until April. It's just a slap in the face and makes the feeling of apathy so prevalent. I'm sure the will to win is there w/ Woodson, but is the willing sacrifice of the lush lifestyle to grind it out there?

From my perspective this operation is being ran like someone enjoying retirement while collecting a huge check. Retirement well deserved for Woody, but the lifestyle that is being displayed through social media does not particularly give me or any fan confidence that there is desperation to win at a large scale.  

Are Dan Hurley, Painter, Larranaga, Barnes, eg smoking cigars w/ old buddies and posting on X or are their noses to the grindstone? Which would you rather have? 

If Woody makes a habit of last night's press conference that dude can KICK ROCKS. A valid question was asked and instead of being transparent and honest, he responded with "I'm not answering your question or the fans." There is no better way to symbolize your nose in the air, "I'm above you" than to respond to a valid Q in that fashion. It made my blood boil, sounded like a career politician. 

1000% 

I couldn’t agree more with your take on this. It’s increasingly clear that there’s a disconnect between Coach Woodson’s public persona and the expectations we, as fans and followers of the program, have from someone in his position. It’s not just about the lack of basics in basketball execution or the off-court issues. It’s also about the commitment and seriousness we expect from a head coach. Seeing him more focused on leisure activities while the team struggles is disheartening and, frankly, a bit of a slap in the face.

Last night’s press conference incident only adds fuel to this fire. His dismissive attitude towards valid questions from the press and fans isn’t just disappointing; it’s alarming imho. It shows a lack of accountability and transparency, which are crucial for any leader. When he said, “I’m not answering your question or the fans,” it felt like a clear indication that he’s not as invested as he should be. This isn’t the kind of leadership that inspires confidence or respect.

Your point about other coaches like Dan Hurley, Painter, and Larranaga really drives home the contrast. These coaches seem to embody the grind and dedication we expect. They seem to understand that with such a high-profile and influential position comes a responsibility to be fully committed to the role, especially in challenging times.

And let’s talk about the way Woodson often speaks in the third person and appears self-aggrandizing. This sort of behavior is off-putting. It’s a far cry from the humble, team-first attitude that most of us value in everyday people, let alone in those who are supposed to be leaders. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to support a figure who seems to exhibit such a lack of humility and self-awareness.

I respect Woodson for his accomplishments and his love for Indiana Basketball. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt but there comes a point where one has to call it as it is. And right now, it seems like the program is being run by someone more interested in enjoying retirement perks than in grinding it out for the sake of the team’s success.

It’s a tough pill to swallow. 
 

I desperately hope Dolson and the people who financially impact our success, notice the same issues we do, and are willing to have some tough/direct conversations with Woodson. I just worry that CMW is too much of a narcissist to hear what anyone is saying. He doesn’t give anyone the impression that he’s willing to have his methods criticized in any way. 

[Hornsby 1,651]

Not taking a position one way or another on Pearl but I do find it mildly amusing that many thought Woody was too old - he's now 65 - but would embrace Pearl who is 63.   

The difference is a track record. Pearl is older but so was Sampson when he took over houston. If you have killed it in college at 63 you can give us 5 years honestly. That's probably all it takes because pearl is proven he doesn't need to do a rebuild and in 5 years he passes the tourch.

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13 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

1000% 

I couldn’t agree more with your take on this. It’s increasingly clear that there’s a disconnect between Coach Woodson’s public persona and the expectations we, as fans and followers of the program, have from someone in his position. It’s not just about the lack of basics in basketball execution or the off-court issues. It’s also about the commitment and seriousness we expect from a head coach. Seeing him more focused on leisure activities while the team struggles is disheartening and, frankly, a bit of a slap in the face.

Last night’s press conference incident only adds fuel to this fire. His dismissive attitude towards valid questions from the press and fans isn’t just disappointing; it’s alarming imho. It shows a lack of accountability and transparency, which are crucial for any leader. When he said, “I’m not answering your question or the fans,” it felt like a clear indication that he’s not as invested as he should be. This isn’t the kind of leadership that inspires confidence or respect.

Your point about other coaches like Dan Hurley, Painter, and Larranaga really drives home the contrast. These coaches seem to embody the grind and dedication we expect. They seem to understand that with such a high-profile and influential position comes a responsibility to be fully committed to the role, especially in challenging times.

And let’s talk about the way Woodson often speaks in the third person and appears self-aggrandizing. This sort of behavior is off-putting. It’s a far cry from the humble, team-first attitude that most of us value in everyday people, let alone in those who are supposed to be leaders. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to support a figure who seems to exhibit such a lack of humility and self-awareness.

I respect Woodson for his accomplishments and his love for Indiana Basketball. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt but there comes a point where one has to call it as it is. And right now, it seems like the program is being run by someone more interested in enjoying retirement perks than in grinding it out for the sake of the team’s success.

It’s a tough pill to swallow. 
 

I desperately hope Dolson and the people who financially impact our success, notice the same issues we do, and are willing to have some tough/direct conversations with Woodson. I just worry that CMW is too much of a narcissist to hear what anyone is saying. He doesn’t give anyone the impression that he’s willing to have his methods criticized in any way. 

One of the reasons you need high quality assistants.  They can do a lot of the day to day grunt work.  Not sure Woodson has that kind of staff.    Didn’t Knight spend a lot of time fishing and hunting?  

[Hornsby 1,651]

JMV interview with Brian Evans was something else in terms of his frankness  on where we are and the dismal prospects going forward. He did not hold back!

Neither did hillman and hillman was the biggest cheerleader ever for hiring an iu guy. But I think hillman realizes he did not get what he thought he was getting now Look I want Woodson to succeed another new coaching search would suck. I am just not seeing any foundation or culture to build on.

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1000% 
I couldn’t agree more with your take on this. It’s increasingly clear that there’s a disconnect between Coach Woodson’s public persona and the expectations we, as fans and followers of the program, have from someone in his position. It’s not just about the lack of basics in basketball execution or the off-court issues. It’s also about the commitment and seriousness we expect from a head coach. Seeing him more focused on leisure activities while the team struggles is disheartening and, frankly, a bit of a slap in the face.
Last night’s press conference incident only adds fuel to this fire. His dismissive attitude towards valid questions from the press and fans isn’t just disappointing; it’s alarming imho. It shows a lack of accountability and transparency, which are crucial for any leader. When he said, “I’m not answering your question or the fans,” it felt like a clear indication that he’s not as invested as he should be. This isn’t the kind of leadership that inspires confidence or respect.
Your point about other coaches like Dan Hurley, Painter, and Larranaga really drives home the contrast. These coaches seem to embody the grind and dedication we expect. They seem to understand that with such a high-profile and influential position comes a responsibility to be fully committed to the role, especially in challenging times.
And let’s talk about the way Woodson often speaks in the third person and appears self-aggrandizing. This sort of behavior is off-putting. It’s a far cry from the humble, team-first attitude that most of us value in everyday people, let alone in those who are supposed to be leaders. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to support a figure who seems to exhibit such a lack of humility and self-awareness.
I respect Woodson for his accomplishments and his love for Indiana Basketball. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt but there comes a point where one has to call it as it is. And right now, it seems like the program is being run by someone more interested in enjoying retirement perks than in grinding it out for the sake of the team’s success.
It’s a tough pill to swallow. 
 
I desperately hope Dolson and the people who financially impact our success, notice the same issues we do, and are willing to have some tough/direct conversations with Woodson. I just worry that CMW is too much of a narcissist to hear what anyone is saying. He doesn’t give anyone the impression that he’s willing to have his methods criticized in any way. 

I think Woodson thought we would love him no matter what cause he was an iu guy. But most of us never saw him play honestly. I thought I would see iu ball and a guy who poured his heart and soul into it 24/7 if he wanted the job as much as he claimed he did. He seems to like it cause it's iu but he doesn't seem like he lives it. Seems passed if you even question him.

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This thread is unbearable. 

[AZ Hoosier 6,535]

One of the reasons you need high quality assistants.  They can do a lot of the day to day grunt work.  Not sure Woodson has that kind of staff.    Didn’t Knight spend a lot of time fishing and hunting?  

I don’t believe RMK went fishing during the season.

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

15 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

This thread is unbearable. 

Well, it is the rant thread lol. It’s purpose was for people to ***** and moan and not clog up the others so that those that don’t want to ***** and moan don’t have to read it

[Hornsby 1,651]

This thread is unbearable. 

It's a rant thread

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7 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Pearl has a history outside of coaching acumen - as in run ins with the ncaa and outside the lines stuff. No chance IU would hire him. 

I never said IU would; with the holier than thou crap they love to pull I know they wouldn't.