IU Basketball News and Notes

[vemmeistars]

Matt Jones and Dan Dakich tweeting out that they're hearing IU-UK series is coming back next year. 

[Brass Cannon]

4 hours ago, HoosierX said:

Kopp is the best weak side defender and communicator on the team. There's a reason he played as much as he did last season.

Problem is we weren’t very good in the big Ten last year. If we expect to reach that next level we need somebody to surpass what he gave us last year.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

53 minutes ago, vemmeistars said:

Matt Jones and Dan Dakich tweeting out that they're hearing IU-UK series is coming back next year. 

Alright, alright, alright.   Now we just have to field a team to whoop them.

[LamarCheeks]

For those who are interested, posters are ready! 

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[IU Scott]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Alright, alright, alright.   Now we just have to field a team to whoop them.

DD said he had talked to Cal and heard about this but Cal didn't want to play IU this year.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

DD said he had talked to Cal and heard about this but Cal didn't want to play IU this year.

Smart man


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[HoosierHoopster]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Smart man


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Wimp and a chicken

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Wimp and a chicken

Well, hopefully Indiana can pull some rabbits out of the hat and find a roster to beat him next year assuming that’s the deal.  Maybe motivation will breed success. Kentucky will likely have 3 top 10 recruits and top dibs on transfers.  It will always be an uphill battle for Indiana while Cal is there and likely beyond. 

[HoosierHoopster]

6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Well, hopefully Indiana can pull some rabbits out of the hat and find a roster to beat him next year assuming that’s the deal.  Maybe motivation will breed success. Kentucky will likely have 3 top 10 recruits and top dibs on transfers.  It will always be an uphill battle for Indiana while Cal is there and likely beyond. 

Fully agree until the last sentence! The only real challenge I see going forward is getting the little chicken to play IU when we’re good. He wants to control the scheduling so it favors him/UK. Pathetic really

[WayneFleekHoosier]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Fully agree until the last sentence! The only real challenge I see going forward is getting the little chicken to play IU when we’re good. He wants to control the scheduling so it favors him/UK. Pathetic really

Calipari would have pounded every team we had under Archie (save the Covid year team)  Archie wasn’t interested in trying to test Indiana vs the best. He knew. I love Woodson trying to make Indiana top shelf. Just hope he can get the talent to keep it competive.  We’ve watched IU/Duke enough in the challenge to see what happens when top talent faces Indiana.  As much as everyone disagrees, we have a lot of work to be a top team next year. Not exactly sure what the plan is, but if he is scheduling Kentucky he must feel good about it. Also, it’s a giant money grab game, one of the biggest. 
 

 

[BtownStrength]

I grew up loving the IU-UK rivalry, but l really have no interest in playing them while Cal is there. He has to have everything exactly this way to fit his narrative. F that. We will get good games on the schedule under Woodson regardless. 

[HoosierHoops1]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Wimp and a chicken

Coach Calward

[IU Scott]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Well, hopefully Indiana can pull some rabbits out of the hat and find a roster to beat him next year assuming that’s the deal.  Maybe motivation will breed success. Kentucky will likely have 3 top 10 recruits and top dibs on transfers.  It will always be an uphill battle for Indiana while Cal is there and likely beyond. 

We beat Cal 2 out of the last 3 meetings

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Calipari would have pounded every team we had under Archie (save the Covid year team)  Archie wasn’t interested in trying to test Indiana vs the best. He knew. I love Woodson trying to make Indiana top shelf. Just hope he can get the talent to keep it competive.  We’ve watched IU/Duke enough in the challenge to see what happens when top talent faces Indiana.  As much as everyone disagrees, we have a lot of work to be a top team next year. Not exactly sure what the plan is, but if he is scheduling Kentucky he must feel good about it. Also, it’s a giant money grab game, one of the biggest. 
 

 

But you’re only talking about IU under CAM, that’s not representative. As Scott pointed out we were beating UK (and the tourney game we lost with Vic was when they hit almost every free throw and iirc Vic fouled out). We were bad on all fronts under CAM, that’s over.

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

But you’re only talking about IU under CAM, that’s not representative. As Scott pointed out we were beating UK (and the tourney game we lost with Vic was when they hit almost every free throw and iirc Vic fouled out). We were bad on all fronts under CAM, that’s over.

And during Calipari‘s four Archie years, Kentucky underachieved relative to their preseason ranking in a major way every single year. They weren’t bad except for one year (which was far worse than anything Archie did), but they also weren’t special. They were about Iowa good.

Kentucky did manage to win the battle of preseason polls every one of Archie‘s years.

[IUFAN1976]

12 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The “in CMW I trust” approach is silly. He’s not infallible. He’s a second year coach who finished 9th in the conference and got blown out by a mid major in the round of 64 last year. He made mistakes last season. One of his biggest mistakes was his rotations. He killed us numerous times by playing 5 bench players at once. The best teams play shorter rotations. Our 2013 conference champion team had 6 guys play 10+ mpg in conference play. The 2016 team had 8 guys play 10+ mpg. Last year Wisconsin’s team had 6, and last year’s Illinois team had 7. We don’t have the talent to have a 10 man rotation. If we’re playing some cupcake, sure. Play them all. But when we’re playing the best teams on our schedule we need to play 7-8 guys, and our starters need to be playing 30+ mpg. 

Well I disagree, I think the depth is there to play 10.  Also, none of them team you mentioned made the final 4.  With College Basketball playing more games now, depth is important to allow teams to be a little fresher come tournament time and that’s when he should most likely shorten the rotation, IMO

[WayneFleekHoosier]

We beat Cal 2 out of the last 3 meetings

I’m aware. My point is we’ve been bad for a while since then. That’s not been the holdup. Cal wasn’t waiting on us to be bad again. Cal/Archie/Crean we’re the reasons, along with home court vs neutral court. 2 of the most memorable wins over the past 15 years. Let’s hope Woody has the team he wants/needs.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

But you’re only talking about IU under CAM, that’s not representative. As Scott pointed out we were beating UK (and the tourney game we lost with Vic was when they hit almost every free throw and iirc Vic fouled out). We were bad on all fronts under CAM, that’s over.

That’s my point. CAM was our coach since Crean. Cal wasn’t dodging us because we were good under CAM. Cal dodged us during Crean. Fair, fine, and funny. Sucky Crean can always brag about that about Cal going forward. Pretty funny really, considering the 2 coaches resumes.

Anyway, CAM was scared of the big games. Woody is not, hence the likely return of the series. I just hope Woody can pull off the Crean against Cal.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

51 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Well I disagree, I think the depth is there to play 10.  Also, none of them team you mentioned made the final 4.  With College Basketball playing more games now, depth is important to allow teams to be a little fresher come tournament time and that’s when he should most likely shorten the rotation, IMO

In the national championship game both UNC and Kansas had six players play 10+ minutes. UNC’s 6th guy played 18 minutes, and the 7th guy played 2. KU’s 7th guy played 7 minutes, #8 player 3 minutes, and #9 played 2. 

In the Duke/UNC final four game, UNC played five guys 10+ minutes. They only played 8 guys the entire game. Duke played 7 guys the entire game. In the Kansas/Nova game, each team had six players play 10+ minutes. 

I don’t understand the obsession with having such a big rotation. We’re not 2014/2015 Kentucky. We don’t have Devin Booker coming off our bench. Depth is great insurance for injuries. That doesn’t mean you need to play a 10 man rotation. Find your best 7-8 guys and roll with them. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

59 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And during Calipari‘s four Archie years, Kentucky underachieved relative to their preseason ranking in a major way every single year. They weren’t bad except for one year (which was far worse than anything Archie did), but they also weren’t special. They were about Iowa good.

Kentucky did manage to win the battle of preseason polls every one of Archie‘s years.

Iowa good? In those four years Kentucky went 26-11 (sweet 16); 30-7 (elite 8); 25-6 (tournament canceled, won the SEC); and then 9-16. Iowa hasn’t won the Big 10 since 1979, hasn’t made a sweet 16 since 1999, and hasn’t made an elite 8 since 1987. Iowa hasn’t won 30 games since 1987, and has only won 25+ games 3 times since 1987.

That doesn’t really compare to what UK did during the Archie era. UK did in 4 years what Iowa has done in 35.. Calipari gets pretty underrated around here, honestly. I get that people don’t like his ways, but over the last 10 NCAA tournaments he’s went round of 64, missed tournament, elite 8, sweet 16, elite 8, round of 32, final four, NC game, missed tournament, NC.