NIL and IU

[str8baller]

On 8/10/2022 at 7:12 AM, ray said:

I am in complete agreement. I’ve always found it completely intolerable to hear professional athletes whine about their “financial hardships” because they “only” make $2 million per year while some other athletes in their sport are making $3 million per year. It’s ego-driven and greedy, and no attempt to make me or someone who truly struggles (often at jobs we would love to say goodbye to) feel sympathetic isn’t going to be successful. Now there will be bidding wars for college athletes while some other kids sitting next to them in their classrooms are stacking up crippling debt for their future with massive student loans. 

Although I will miss knowing each of the players on the roster are at Indiana for their academics, the coaches, and/or the historical program and its fans, the likelihood of players choosing Indiana primarily for lucrative amounts of NIL money is something that will be in the back of my mind going forward…and I, too, would like to watch Indiana basketball stacking up wins again and want to know we’re making it worthwhile for the players (as if playing in Assembly Hall wasn’t enough). I do believe players should be paid (at minimum, for their time in practice, team meetings, travel, and performance on the court which adds exposure to the university), but to think that an 18-year old bench warmer may feel underpaid at $19,000 per month is a gross thought…and an entitled perspective. I’m not saying any of the players feel this way, but if so, then I wish them the best at finding a career which pays them so well…because there are many people in this world making less than $38,000 in an entire year. As I’ve said before, though, people drop their loyalty to a company on a regular basis to increase their salaries elsewhere, and I can’t blame any kid for choosing his or her most lucrative path and they should have that choice if the choice presents itself. 

How do you feel about coaches? They have no loyalty beyond the paycheck and we idolize them. 
 

Personally, I find it much more gross that IU paid tens of millions to guys like Davis/Crean/Archie. Players making money doesn’t bother me nearly as much. 

[ray]

17 hours ago, str8baller said:

How do you feel about coaches? They have no loyalty beyond the paycheck and we idolize them. 
 

Personally, I find it much more gross that IU paid tens of millions to guys like Davis/Crean/Archie. Players making money doesn’t bother me nearly as much. 

Personally, I don’t idolize any coach…but I am jealous of their paychecks. I think many coaches are grossly overpaid, as are most (all?) CEO’s.

Many universities don’t make enough money from athletics to cover the costs of supporting the teams…much fewer do than don’t. I read an article a few years back which listed revenue vs cost, and most college sports teams don’t make financial sense.

[Southside]

On 8/11/2022 at 8:25 PM, str8baller said:

How do you feel about coaches? They have no loyalty beyond the paycheck and we idolize them. 
 

Personally, I find it much more gross that IU paid tens of millions to guys like Davis/Crean/Archie. Players making money doesn’t bother me nearly as much. 

I don't really idolize any coach unless they're perhaps HoF types and long in the teeth. If they bring deep runs, or NCs, I will however put them on a pedestal. 

But I'd say coaches are part of a clear profession. And professionals make money. There is no fuzziness around them being a student-coach lol, or amateur. Conversely though.... Right now, we're paying kids a ton of money, yet still calling them student athletes with amateur status still in check.

And I always wanted kids to get a bit more than just tuition. I thought living expenses was a no brainer, and thought there should be some type of deferred fund so that they'd make some off of jersey sales, etc.. That all seemed sensible to me... But now we've jumped the shark and turned the volume straight up to 11. Now boosters are pouring millions into NIL, not so kids can really earn it off the court, but simply to be the school that offers the most. 

[Hovadipo]

This is what NIL was meant to be and it absolutely rocks.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

A little help from the Maurer School of Law.

https://news.iu.edu/stories/2022/08/iub/releases/30-name-image-likeness-law-students-hoosier-athletes.html?fbclid=IwAR1gJmUTH7oIvRa-cYBdfuRXGilpAmjuQNVrTol7jV8XpTdatJ0EcqOAhbA#

[DWB]

Love the idea. Helps student athletes keep more of what they earn.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

A little NIL action for Tamar

 

[DWB]

Been looking around for NIL contribution opportunities as an indv, but I can't locate anyone other than the HH guys that have a "collection plate" for proper NIL contributions from fans or small businesses that don't want to negotiate deals directly with student athletes. The IU marketplace thru Opendorce I thought would be one to "pool" $$$ from multiple sources, but it doesn't appear that way.

Anybody got another source for indv's to contribute to the NIL acct for players?

[Hovadipo]

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

If Indiana wants to stop losing recruiting battles we need to up our NIL game into the dark gray area soon.  It ain’t that hard. 
 

Gary Parrish says he knows one University is trying to promise 1 million minimum per scholarship position. I mean, that’s ludicrous, but is it?  Calipari makes almost 10 million a year. 13 million for a roster of your choosing may well be worth it. 

Indiana -Ballin’ on a Budget since ……..Forever.  

 

[DWB]

This sounds very interesting for Indv's and businesses to partner with a reputable organization for NIL. Hats off to TDH for bringing it to us.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/new-hoosiers-connect-nil-collective-brings-reputable-approach-to-for-profit-space/

[Hovadipo]

On 9/22/2022 at 3:45 PM, DWB said:

This sounds very interesting for Indv's and businesses to partner with a reputable organization for NIL. Hats off to TDH for bringing it to us.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/new-hoosiers-connect-nil-collective-brings-reputable-approach-to-for-profit-space/

Missed this when it was first posted, but seeing that Collin Hartman and Jared Jeffries are part of the group here is nice. This is 100% where my money would go.

[DWB]

3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Missed this when it was first posted, but seeing that Collin Hartman and Jared Jeffries are part of the group here is nice. This is 100% where my money would go.

While I understand that they want large size NIL donations ($1200 minimum for this NIL), it would be nice if they could collect smaller donations from people who don't have the where with all to "subscribe and donate that much" but just want to throw in $50-$100 to the "kitty" for their own personal satisfaction, and want nothing in return.

[Hovadipo]

2 minutes ago, DWB said:

While I understand that they want large size NIL donations ($1200 minimum for this NIL), it would be nice if they could collect smaller donations from people who don't have the where with all to "subscribe and donate that much" but just want to throw in $50-$100 to the "kitty" for their own personal satisfaction, and want nothing in return.

I missed that part. I guess they have their niche. Hopefully big money people trust them more than other options out there and get some deals done.

[Hovadipo]

Trayce needs to take some of this NIL money and buy a steamer. Or a dryer with wrinkle release. 

[Rico]

16 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Trayce needs to take some of this NIL money and buy a steamer. Or a dryer with wrinkle release. 

Is it me or does Trayce have some "camel toe" going on there?

[bird4par]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Is it me or does Trayce have some "camel toe" going on there?

Either that, or the photographer is “hot”

[Hoosierfanyuh]

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Story on the anonymous donation for NIL

https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2022/11/14/anonymous-donor-commits-1-million-in-matching-funds-for-nil-donations-made-to-hoosiers-for-good-or-nil-sponsorships-memberships-made-with-hoosiers-connect-by-december-31?fbclid=IwAR3NEebe5CUsbCHAOZdhDQdLUOh8sOlR3irX4Nvvam56oAU-FKanXdazPP8