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Candidate Thread: Brad Stevens (Boston Celtics)

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27 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I’m over it.  He’s not coming.  Fine.  Whatever.  What he said just still seems so strange to me though.  Maybe I need a guys perspective.  Are there any guys here that were born here that are in their mid 40’s that have been big IU fans and have seen the things he has that would turn in their Hoosier card to be a Masshole and go from being a Colts fan to Patriots fan?

I'm an IU alum who grew up in Indiana, but 30 minutes from Chicago and 2.5 hours from Indy -- so I more identified with Chicago teams than Indiana teams. And the Colts didn't even arrive until I was in high school anyway.

I've lived in Minnesota, Texas and Virginia and while I've taken a minor interest in their teams (except for maybe the Vikings), I've never wavered in my support of the Cubs, the Bears, the Bulls, the Blackhawks and of course, collegiately -- the Hoosiers. Maybe it's easy for some to switch allegiances, but after so many years, I sure can't -- even though most of the time, having a vested interest in those teams those teams can be very painful! 

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13 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I’m over it.  He’s not coming.  Fine.  Whatever.  What he said just still seems so strange to me though.  Maybe I need a guys perspective.  Are there any guys here that were born here that are in their mid 40’s that have been big IU fans and have seen the things he has that would turn in their Hoosier card to be a Masshole and go from being a Colts fan to Patriots fan?

Hell no....it’s gut wrenching for me that IU basketball sucks. Grew up in Bloomington went to Purdue. If he cared about it as much as I do there isn’t any way he could have said no.

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11 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I got word that it looked promising during the meetings. 
 

Scott and the donors have to be devastated. We may be screwed. We may have fired Archie too soon. 

Please.  Archie stunk up the joint.  We're better off with a random kid from the hyper coaching the team.  

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11 minutes ago, IUCane said:

IF I were the donor being asked to cut a $10mm check I would have wanted more than “promising”.  I would have wanted a signed agreement.  

Not a lawyer but is that even legal? 

Could Brad have signed something while still under contract with the Celtics? In my experience LOIs don't mean diddly squat. 

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16 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I got word that it looked promising during the meetings. 
 

Scott and the donors have to be devastated. We may be screwed. We may have fired Archie too soon. 

Archie needed to go. It was the right decision. Brad Stevens is a good coach, but he isn’t the greatest coach ever. 

There are several good coaches out there that can take IU back to a top program. Now isn’t the time for self loathing and dispair. It’s time for resolve, intelligence, and decisive decision making. Stevens was #1 on the list but there are others on that list and feelers put out to them prior to Archie being let go. All is not lost. Boosters aren’t spending that kind of money without the full picture of who the top target is and what’s the backup plan if the top guy says no. 

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25 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I’m over it.  He’s not coming.  Fine.  Whatever.  What he said just still seems so strange to me though.  Maybe I need a guys perspective.  Are there any guys here that were born here that are in their mid 40’s that have been big IU fans and have seen the things he has that would turn in their Hoosier card to be a Masshole and go from being a Colts fan to Patriots fan?

Being a fan of a team can involve things that have nothing to do with where you're from.  I've lived my whole life in Indiana, but not a Colts fan (or really any NFL team).  Not a Reds or Cubs fan either, Yankees fan because I remember hearing my dad tell stories of Mickey Mantle.  I know someone that was a Chief's fan, switched to Broncos with Manning (and back).

Maybe he liked how they play or just saw more of them or met people involved with the team.

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59 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Yes and no. I'd still hire him because he's the best candidate for the job. But I lost a lot of respect for the guy with that performance at the press conference. So I'd be much less enthused about it today than I would have been yesterday.

If he views himself as a ma$$hole, I have no reason to root for his success anywhere other than IU.

Same for me. Even if he changes his mind, I don't think I want him any more. The very reason we loved and wanted him so bad was obviously he was (and is) a great coach, AND he is a homegrown Hoosier who we thought would proudly represent the Hoosier state. Fans in Indiana are the ones who would love and back him up through thick and thin. It's completely ok he says no, but after a vague pregame interview on Tuesday, the way he came out and rejected IU yesterday just didn't sit well with me. I don't think any big time IU booster would want to spend a dime on him in the future. Yes I get it he wants to be where he is now. Good for him. But he lost a lot yesterday....something money can't buy. 

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4 hours ago, Treesh said:

I got word that it looked promising during the meetings. 
 

Scott and the donors have to be devastated. We may be screwed. We may have fired Archie too soon. 

We are not screwed. And Archie is not (was not) the answer. And neither is Alford.

A lot of folks said Knight was here too long. Davis was definitely here too long. Crean was here too long. Maybe Archie was here too long... but he was definitely here long enough.

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1 hour ago, pumpfake said:

When I was young I used to make fun of older guys for things like wearing black socks with shorts - that kind of thing.  Now I realize they just did what they wanted, or were usedto and didn't give a "tinker's damn" what anyone thought.  Now I'm in my sixties and fully understand (and embrace) that mindset.  It is indeed very liberating.

As I lay on my bed reading this, wearing my shorts, I look down at my black socks...s**t!!! He's talking about me!!! And I'm only in my fifties! 

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6 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Here is what I mean about reading a script, it’s probably nothing at all. Put it’s just to clarify how weird it was and looks (his eyes) 

 

He didn’t seem comfortable saying any of that. Definitely wasn’t natural. 

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4 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Here is what I mean about reading a script, it’s probably nothing at all. Put it’s just to clarify how weird it was and looks (his eyes) 

 

That’s the first time I’ve watched the video. That’s not a sincere or an emotional statement that I would expect from someone talking down on his home state that his family still lives in and talking up Boston. That was 100% scripted and would love to know why because I could’ve squashed rumors if I was in that situation without a script.

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Just now, Feathery said:

He didn’t seem comfortable saying any of that. Definitely wasn’t natural. 

Every time he was about to speak he looked over and then began reading. Maybe he really wanted the job, but what I said last night, he could have been forced to deny it

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