Player decisions

[Hippopotamo]

Just now, Free Jurkin! said:

Virginia doesn't have an exciting offense, but they've got a number of guards/wings in the NBA. I'm guessing they're pitching him on developing into a Brogdon type player.

Plus Armaan showed that he can succeed in a similar style. He does well in the packline and managed to put up decent numbers in an offense that was atrocious. No reason to think he wouldn’t be successful at Virginia. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

51 minutes ago, goonaha said:

He also averaged 43% from 3 on high volume. That's not easy to replace. It's a big loss.

3.9 threes a game isn’t high volume. Phinisee and Durham took about as many threes as Franklin last year. Parker Stewart shot over twice as many a game at UT Martin. 

[iu eyedoc]

IU player on the team: " Love the guy, he is a key piece of the team moving forward."

IU player in the portal: "Punk is just an attention *****. He isn't even ranked high. If he doesn't want to be here fluck him."

IU player removes his name from the portal: "Love it, great player, great potential. Let's ********* Go!! "

[goonaha]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

3.9 threes a game isn’t high volume. Phinisee and Durham took about as many threes as Franklin last year. Parker Stewart shot over twice as many a game at UT Martin. 

Considering the team only averaged 18 attempts a game, I do think it's high volume. You're free to disagree. We weren't exactly a high flying offense. 

[ap2345]

Just now, btownqb said:

is there a connection?

I guarantee that they know each other in one way or the other since both are from Indy. I guarantee that they've been in some kind of contact. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

They like the attention

Or they really are having trouble deciding. AF doesn't strike me as an attention hawk

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Or maybe major life decisions are stressful and not everyone makes them instantaneously. For a guy who supposedly loves attention, he has been very quiet in the press and social media. 

Beat me to it

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[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Considering the team only averaged 18 attempts a game, I do think it's high volume. You're free to disagree. We weren't exactly a high flying offense. 

300 D1 teams took more threes a game last year. Shooting the most threes (by 0.1) on a very low volume three point shooting team doesn’t make you a high volume three point shooter. 3.9 a game isn’t high volume for a shooting guard in college basketball today. 

[goonaha]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

300 D1 teams took more threes a game last year. Shooting the most threes (by 0.1) on a very low volume three point shooting team doesn’t make you a high volume three point shooter. 3.9 a game isn’t high volume for a shooting guard in college basketball today. 

Ok, he's not a good shooter and 85 shots isn't enough sample size to make any assessments on. Let's kick him to the curb as he's easily replaceable because there's so many kids in the portal that are good shooters and play good defense. Happy now?

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

IU player on the team: " Love the guy, he is a key piece of the team moving forward."
IU player in the portal: "Punk is just an attention *****. He isn't even ranked high. If he doesn't want to be here fluck him."
IU player removes his name from the portal: "Love it, great player, great potential. Let's ********* Go!! "

About right

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

11 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

IU player on the team: " Love the guy, he is a key piece of the team moving forward."

IU player in the portal: "Punk is just an attention *****. He isn't even ranked high. If he doesn't want to be here fluck him."

IU player removes his name from the portal: "Love it, great player, great potential. Let's ********* Go!! "

Don't think that's progressed like that for any player this season. 

[CSP]

11 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

I guarantee that they know each other in one way or the other since both are from Indy. I guarantee that they've been in some kind of contact. 

That's seems like a pretty big stretch. Maybe he's just been in contact with Yogi Ferrell about staying at IU?

[Hoosierfan2017]

13 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Ok, he's not a good shooter and 85 shots isn't enough sample size to make any assessments on. Let's kick him to the curb as he's easily replaceable because there's so many kids in the portal that are good shooters and play good defense. Happy now?

Considering none of the words in this little rant were said by me, are you happy now? Nowhere did I say he wasn’t a good shooter. You said that he took a high volume of threes last year. He didn’t. 3.9 a game is not high volume for a guard. Maybe it was in 2000, but it’s not in 2021. He took 85 threes last year. That doesn’t put him in the top 100 in attempts in college basketball. It doesn’t put him anywhere close. The guy in 96th place last year took 151 in the same number of games as Armaan. 
 

Franklin is a good player, but he isn’t irreplaceable. Heck, we might have two guards better than him on our roster right now. If Armaan wants to be an Indiana Hoosier next year, great. If he doesn’t, see ya. I’m perfectly content with our starting backcourt of Johnson/Stewart. 

[goonaha]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Considering none of the words in this little rant were said by me, so are you happy now? Nowhere did I say he wasn’t a good shooter. You said that he took a high volume of threes last year. He didn’t. 3.9 a game is not high volume for a guard. Maybe it was in 2000, but it’s not in 2021. He took 85 threes last year. That doesn’t put him in the top 100 in attempts in college basketball. It doesn’t put him anywhere close. The guy in 96th place last year took 151 in the same number of games as Armaan. 
 

Franklin is a good player, but he isn’t irreplaceable. Heck, we might have two guards better than him on our roster right now. If Armaan wants to be an Indiana Hoosier next year, great. If he doesn’t, see ya. I’m perfectly content with our starting backcourt of Johnson/Stewart. 

Ah, weirdly similar to my post where I compared him to the team and not nationally since our offense stunk. Of course he's not high volume compared to guys in modern offenses that actually hunt 3's. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Ah, weirdly similar to my post where I compared him to the team and not nationally since our offense stunk. Of course he's not high volume compared to guys in modern offenses that actually hunt 3's. 

Your initial post on this said nothing about high volume compared to the rest of the team. You stated “He also averaged 43% from 3 on high volume. That's not easy to replace.” 
 

It wasn’t until I said that 3.9 a game isn’t high volume that you compared him to the rest of the team. IU didn’t shoot threes last year. 90% of college teams took more than us last year. Like I said, shooting the most threes on a team that rarely shoots threes doesn’t make you a high volume three point shooter. 
 

But, ultimately it doesn’t matter. If you think 3.9 a game is high volume, go right ahead. I think Parker Stewart is going to come in and show us what a high volume three point shooter looks like. 

[goonaha]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your initial post on this said nothing about high volume compared to the rest of the team. You stated “He also averaged 43% from 3 on high volume. That's not easy to replace.” 
 

It wasn’t until I said that 3.9 a game isn’t high volume that you compared him to the rest of the team. IU didn’t shoot threes last year. 90% of college teams took more than us last year. Like I said, shooting the most threes on a team that rarely shoots threes doesn’t make you a high volume three point shooter. 
 

But, ultimately it doesn’t matter. If you think 3.9 a game is high volume, go right ahead. I think Parker Stewart is going to come in and show us what a high volume three point shooter looks like. 

I am sincerely sorry that I did not caveat my initial post enough for your liking. My point stands. Maybe Noah Locke could replace. After that, maybe you could enlighten me with other portal options that shoot 40% at a sufficient enough volume for your liking. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

11 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

IU player on the team: " Love the guy, he is a key piece of the team moving forward."

IU player in the portal: "Punk is just an attention *****. He isn't even ranked high. If he doesn't want to be here fluck him."

IU player removes his name from the portal: "Love it, great player, great potential. Let's ********* Go!! "

Don't think that's progressed like that for any player this season. 

[goonaha]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your initial post on this said nothing about high volume compared to the rest of the team. You stated “He also averaged 43% from 3 on high volume. That's not easy to replace.” 
 

It wasn’t until I said that 3.9 a game isn’t high volume that you compared him to the rest of the team. IU didn’t shoot threes last year. 90% of college teams took more than us last year. Like I said, shooting the most threes on a team that rarely shoots threes doesn’t make you a high volume three point shooter. 
 

But, ultimately it doesn’t matter. If you think 3.9 a game is high volume, go right ahead. I think Parker Stewart is going to come in and show us what a high volume three point shooter looks like. 

And by the way, the whole point of saying "high volume" originally was simply to say that he shot enough to conclude that he's a high level 3 point shooter who will be tough to replace in the portal. It wasn't to do a statistical breakdown against the rest of the country. Again, sincere apologies for not explicitly stating all that. I'll be sure to have more comprehensive posts going forward so that there's less room for nitpicking from yourself.

[HoosierAloha]

Get those mental gymnastics in when you can. Losing Franklin to another team would be big. Likewise, getting Franklin to return to add with what’s coming in would be big. Downplaying that is just wrong. 12-15 or 30-0, losing your beer shooter when you’re desperately in need of shooters is bad. It’s not that difficult to figure out.

Resort to the hater comeback in 3..


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56 minutes ago, Evariste Galois said:

I don't think so.... 

It can be hard to make decisions when you have good options in front of you. Franklin should take the time he needs to make the choice he feels comfortable with. In my opinion, the longer it takes, the better our chances become.

I agree with that last bit, especially because it sounds like he's still practicing with the team. That means he's getting a chance to get to know Woodson and Fife as well as get a feel for their coaching styles. This will give him an idea if he'll for the new system (I think he'd be ideal) and if they'd be able to help him develop his game. So that is an advantage IU has over the other schools. If he does end up leaving it can't be said that Franklin didn't give Woodson and company plenty of opportunities to convince him to stay; he did his due diligence.