General Coach Candidate News

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

With the landscape what it now is, I wouldn't be all  that surprised to see him transfer to another school.  I think he'd take that option vs. overseas if the NBA wasn't a certainty.  And what message would that send about our current coach?

IF the NCAA allows kids to play immediately next year after a transfer AND rumors that Archie is not connecting with the kids he recruits then Dolson may have to act early.  A lot of IFs there I know but it is certainly a possibility. 

[cthomas]

Immediate eligibility could be a disaster for a bunch of teams and coaches, including our own.

[8bucks]

4 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Yup...we have shooting machines at Cook. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

If TJD can't be left alone from 18 feet he's a completely different player (and we are a completely different team). 

 

It kind of reminds me of Morgan. I was certain he would come back as a senior with the 3 point shot as a weapon but he really did not. As a junior he averaged 1.7 attempts a game and only moved that up to 2.5 as a senior and his % dropped from 30% to 29%. 
 

so now we have TJD who really looks to have no interest in that shot. Granted as the center he is down low more but still it makes me wonder if PF or centers taking 3s is a no no in Archies offense 

[ziggyiu]

34 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

It kind of reminds me of Morgan. I was certain he would come back as a senior with the 3 point shot as a weapon but he really did not. As a junior he averaged 1.7 attempts a game and only moved that up to 2.5 as a senior and his % dropped from 30% to 29%. 
 

so now we have TJD who really looks to have no interest in that shot. Granted as the center he is down low more but still it makes me wonder if PF or centers taking 3s is a no no in Archies offense 

Race shoots 3s -- not many, but he'll pop 'em from time to titime.

Archie is all for TJD expanding his game. It's a wonder why off some many different pick and roll situations he almost never shoots it. Now, most times he doesn't even look at the basket, and defenses have noticed. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

41 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

Race shoots 3s -- not many, but he'll pop 'em from time to titime.

Archie is all for TJD expanding his game. It's a wonder why off some many different pick and roll situations he almost never shoots it. Now, most times he doesn't even look at the basket, and defenses have noticed. 

Well any time he even shoots a 17 footer, it looks absolutely awful and he looks beyond scared to have even shot it. 

[Trish]

TJD is no where near ready for the league. He already has major red flags, probably the most significant red flag is his energy / motivation level from game to game. Scouts have for sure caught on that he tends to be inconsistent with his motivation on both ends of the floor. 

He can't shoot. To be in the NBA these days you need to be able to shoot at least something outside of 15 feet. Look at Thomas Bryant, he could shoot a little at IU. He was a little more mobile than TJD and a little better NBA length. Now Thomas Bryant is a starting center for the Wizards (prior to his ACL injury). Same can be said for Juwan Morgan. He could shoot a little in college and hell he's undersized as hell, but he makes the hustle plays and can easy switch onto guards in the league. TJD can't even guard guards in the B1G so..

Going to the GLeague would be a mistake for him as he'd be overseas in no time. Transferring would be a mistake. At the bare minimum he has to improve his shooting, his right hand, and be able to handle guards laterally. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

We are now at 39 straight missed AP Polls. 

[southernindianahoosier2]

5 hours ago, Treesh said:

TJD is no where near ready for the league. He already has major red flags, probably the most significant red flag is his energy / motivation level from game to game. Scouts have for sure caught on that he tends to be inconsistent with his motivation on both ends of the floor. 

He can't shoot. To be in the NBA these days you need to be able to shoot at least something outside of 15 feet. Look at Thomas Bryant, he could shoot a little at IU. He was a little more mobile than TJD and a little better NBA length. Now Thomas Bryant is a starting center for the Wizards (prior to his ACL injury). Same can be said for Juwan Morgan. He could shoot a little in college and hell he's undersized as hell, but he makes the hustle plays and can easy switch onto guards in the league. TJD can't even guard guards in the B1G so..

Going to the GLeague would be a mistake for him as he'd be overseas in no time. Transferring would be a mistake. At the bare minimum he has to improve his shooting, his right hand, and be able to handle guards laterally. 

I don't know of one player that's developed under Archie, so maybe transferring to a coach with a good history of development wouldn't be a bad idea. 

[Trish]

42 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I don't know of one player that's developed under Archie, so maybe transferring to a coach with a good history of development wouldn't be a bad idea. 

I'd argue Race and Thompson have made strides from last year. I'd also argue our freshman look to be improving slightly, especially Leal. 

 

[LamarCheeks]

7 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'd argue Race and Thompson have made strides from last year. I'd also argue our freshman look to be improving slightly, especially Leal. 

 

I'm pretty sure Race IS Thompson. LOL! 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I can't really find an exact player TJD compares to. His game is Tristan Thompson. But he want to is more like Perry Jones III.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

5 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

We are now at 39 straight missed AP Polls. 

Just save yourself some trouble and call it 46 because this team is not going to be ranked the rest of this season although some of its play is pretty rank.

[HoosierAloha]

I don't know of one player that's developed under Archie, so maybe transferring to a coach with a good history of development wouldn't be a bad idea. 

I don’t think Archie’s “development” (or lack there of) is what should be focused on here. I think recruiting the right players or creating an environment of development is the true shortcoming.

Race has developed his game while at IU. Armaan has made a great freshman to sophomore jump, injuries have derailed that a bit. Morgan develop between sophomore and junior year. Freddie McSwain was doing things I didn’t think he was capable of doing his senior year.

The point is we don’t have a consistent player development system. That’s on Archie to recruit the right players and create that program. It’s on the players to actually do it.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Hey, the mags got it right again. Well, in the ballpark.  We always view our teams with Crimson glasses.  Sometimes you can exceed the mags/predictions  (hard to do) or not live up them (UK-this year).  We will project in the same area next year too, UNLESS TJD RETURNS AND WE ADD ONE PROVEN PIECE.  Can we outdo the projections?  Sure.  Will we?  I wouldn’t count on it.  The evidence is there for us.

 

our recruiting isn’t great.  Our development isn’t great, although i do see some, our coaching isn’t great in game, our offensive style is boring and hard to watch half of the time.  
 

I mostly, just wish Archie could recruit better. His recruiting has been my biggest disappointment relative to what I expected when he was hired.  

 

[coonhounds]

If archie does indeed get one more year and tjd stays for the sake of this argument how well do we need to do to keep archie? You can also say if we are getting some good recruits or also without. I remember crean looked to be on his way out but landed thomas Bryant I doubt it played a role but maybe it did. Just a example

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

If archie does indeed get one more year and tjd stays for the sake of this argument how well do we need to do to keep archie? You can also say if we are getting some good recruits or also without. I remember crean looked to be on his way out but landed thomas Bryant I doubt it played a role but maybe it did. Just a example

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Finish Top 3 in the B1G and no less than an Elite 8. Stay Top 15 most of the season. Win at least a game in the Big Ten Tourney. 

[ziggyiu]

20 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well any time he even shoots a 17 footer, it looks absolutely awful and he looks beyond scared to have even shot it. 

My post was in reply to the staff wanting TJD to expand his game, not what the expansion looks like. 

It's because TJD doesn't try anything outside of 5 feet any more (and when he did earlier in the season it looked awful) that he'll play college ball again next year.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I've seen Oats do something twice in this game, that I've never seen Archie do. 

Pull a player, and actually talk to him about his mistakes and try to teach. 

[Ryno6284]

6 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm pretty sure Race IS Thompson. LOL! 

Finkel is Einhorn! lol

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I've seen Oats do something twice in this game, that I've never seen Archie do. 

Pull a player, and actually talk to him about his mistakes and try to teach. 

Wow.

You are kinda blinded by your hate for Archie. He does exactly that on a reasonably regular basis.

The Archie results have been ‘meh’, but at least criticize for things that are factual.