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2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I get that but the resources since NILmatch us up with other elites. Before NIL we were a handcuffed program. That should be an easy Dolson sell.

NIL won't matter if we don't get the right coach.

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5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No.  It shouldn't in terms of a coaches age. 

It’s a huge factor.  It was one of several Woody downfalls when he started. 
 

St. John’s did the basketball equivalent because they needed to take a short term shot. It’s paying off.  They will need a new coach within a couple years.  I guess if you are ok knowing it’s a 4-6 year cycle then it doesn’t matter as much. And people lose energy as they age not the opposite. So at that age you are probably getting the best version immediately.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Clearly he’s a solid hire, but an older coach in football is different than in basketball.

Football is more like the CEO of a large organization—the coordinators largely run practice. In basketball the coach is actively participating in practice and teaching.

That’s not to say that an older guy can’t be excellent (some clearly are) but there is more potential for an older guy to wear down physically and with their motivation as they get into their 60’s. That downward trend of the will to grind hard can happen.

Dude.  No. I'm sorry but that's so off. 

The game prep in football alone compared to basketball is like apples and oranges. 

A basketball practice is also a significantly shorter and in an air-conditioned environment. 

No one tell Pitino! 

Posted
Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It’s a huge factor.  It was one of several Woody downfalls when he started. 
 

St. John’s did the basketball equivalent because they needed to take a short term shot. It’s paying off.  They will need a new coach within a couple years.  I guess if you are ok knowing it’s a 4-6 year cycle than it doesn’t matter as much. And people loss energy as they age not the opposite. So at that age you are probably getting the best version immediately.

It's not a huge factor.  It would be different if Greg M didn't run modern stuff offensively. That offense is gorgeous, and you know he isn't coming here to "rebuild "  

No, I didn't say anything about a 4-6 yr cycle. Doesn't make sense why we'd pigeon your ourselves to that? 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Dude.  No. I'm sorry but that's so off. 

The game prep in football alone compared to basketball is like apples and oranges. 

A basketball practice is also a significantly shorter and in an air-conditioned environment. 

No one tell Pitino! 

Plus, if we hire someone young who turns out to be good, we aren’t going to be able to do bradapalooza in here again in like 4-8 years lol

Posted
30 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

So you can hire a 60yr old in football and have you best season ever, but that can't work for basketball? Got it. 

McDermott is a solid hire. 

Taking those points in a vacuum is nuts lol.

with football there was only upside. worst power 5 program ever. Little expectations. so  60 year old coming in works to give the program any relevance ever

 

basketball the expectations are so high. Mcdermott is a good coach but this program cant have another coaching search in 4-5 years again.

Posted
12 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am hearing from my sources....don't kill the messenger....but I trust this person for a long time....Tubby Smith

 

 

 

 

See....anyone can do it. F Isaac

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Lebowski said:

I know it's hard for folks to grasp because we've been so used to the disappointment of the football program but IUFB finally has a coach that knows what he's doing.

What a horrible take. Lol.

I’m a basketball fan , don’t claim to know “ball” 

not the case when it comes to football . Agreed it’s a terrible take . The amount of talent that returns off last years roster is almost unheard of in todays college football . Not to mention the additions (arguably better QB, RB , and couple of OL) and the retention of staff as well . 
 

9-3 minimum 

Posted
4 minutes ago, GP711 said:

Taking those points in a vacuum is nuts lol.

with football there was only upside. worst power 5 program ever. Little expectations. so  60 year old coming in works to give the program any relevance ever

 

basketball the expectations are so high. Mcdermott is a good coach but this program cant have another coaching search in 4-5 years again.

Why..  why would it? 

What vacuum was I speaking in? 

You all worry about the most trivial s*** 

Posted
6 hours ago, Lebowski said:

I wouldn't pigeonhole his "system" into a label of a D2 style system. His approach seems to be more about his players' strengths and adapt to them. He's definitely a process driven coach, like Nick Saban for sure.  It looks like his biggest constant is the point guard play. It all starts and stops with the PG. I think I read on here somewhere or maybe watched an interview or something where he wants a player that can quickly process things mentally. His offense makes me think of the "motion" offense back in the day.  It's very fluid and not really about X's and O's but more about mentally processing what is available on the court that the defense is giving you. A lot of cuts to the basket, screens that help setting up open shots through mismatches, screens to get two defenders on the ball, ghost screens,  etc.. I watched it in the flesh, and it's really fun to watch. Personally, I enjoyed his team's defense more than I did the offense. Bottom line, they played smart.  I haven't seen an IUBB team play smart in a very long time.  I do question whether or not his type of philosophy/offense will work against length. We'll be able to watch this in the tournament for sure. 

 

If McCollum is the guy, I'll be extremely comfortable with the hire. 

Yeah, I understand.  But sometimes you have to let Cheney, Olidipo, etc, do what they do.   

Posted
7 hours ago, JustWinBaby said:

He was praising “Trayce” Galloway the other day. I will not miss his aloofness. You just can’t lack basic attention to detail as a head coach. I know for a fact it cost us more than one top-level recruit.

Also I won’t miss him speaking in the third person. What the hell was that anyway?? How did he never take any heat for that? lmao

My personal favorite was calling Carlyle “Canine”

Posted

IU basketball is in basically the same place as IU football after Allen. Day 0. We have NIL going for us which is nice but that’s not enough to make us elite. It’s just a perk of the job. The history here is something we should always respect. That said, the program needs to be gutted and rebuilt in a true winner’s image. 

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