General Coach Candidate News

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,887]

34 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I personally don’t care about having a seat at the table with the top recruits, I think the coach should recruit players that fit his style of play and are high character players 

I agree and that is why I want a natural talent evaluator.  It’s nice to have a chance at some of the best guys but numerous schools show year in and year out talent comes in on shapes and sizes and star levels.  
 

I think winning at the power 5 is tough had guys don’t realize what it takes. That’s why the Dusty May prospect concerns me. It’s a rude awakening for most coaches.  Figuring it out on the job isn’t the way it’s going to work at Indiana. Ideally we finally get a proven guy that can do it at that level. 

[Bankshot 633]

I've thought quite a bit about this over the years and I believe the solution to be both simple (in concept) and difficult (to actually achieve). Here's a list criteria for a great head coaching hire (my opinion). I think we got a guy like this when we hired Knight. Since then...not so much. I think that the closer a program comes to hiring someone who meets criteria like this, the better they will be. The further you stray from it, the worse you will be. In that sense, the solution is simple...hire someone who comes as close to it as possible.

1. Proven commitment to and execution of a ‘winning basketball philosophy’:
  a. Stresses/requires sound fundamentals
     i. Shooting, passing, blocking out, ball handling, shot selection, etc.
  b. Prioritizes recruiting players with sound fundamentals
  c. Prioritizes both offensive and defensive excellence (being good on both ends)
  d. Prioritizes recruiting players that fit and play within this system
  e. Stresses/requires minimizing mistakes, taking good shots, valuing each possession, playing hard, playing smart, etc.
2. Demonstrated ability to recruit players and build a balanced and effective roster
3. Demonstrated ability/willingness to make as-needed adjustments to talent/roster
4. Demonstrated ability to implement the system while keeping it attractive to modern players
5. Demonstrated ‘game management’ abilities: in-game coaching adjustments, timeouts, substitutions, foul management, matchups, etc.
6. Demonstrated ability/willingness to make adjustments to talent/roster strengths/abilities
7. Proven ability to develop players and measurable improvement of players (players get better)
8. Demonstrated ability to maximize player skills and production (gets the most out of the team)
9. Demonstrated ability to translate winning philosophy to on court results (the system is effective and produces wins)
  a. Win/Loss records
  b. Conference standings
  c. Tournament success
10. Demonstrated ability to achieve and sustain success across seasons, rosters, etc. (wins consistently without dramatic ups and downs) (Harder to evaluate with younger coaches or coaches from smaller schools?)
11. Possesses additional necessary D1 head coaching acumen: personable, personality, etc.
12. Does not possess disqualifying traits or issues that negate the above

[IUc2016 7,121]

Dusty gets a lot of mention so I thought I would tag his Bart Torvik page. Gives a good sense of not just the overall team record, but the advanced analytics behind his teams. 

*FAU had 1 winning season from 2008-2018 before Dusty arrived.

Link to BT: https://barttorvik.com/coach-history.php?coach=Dusty May

[AKHoosier 7,627]

The more I read about Josh Schertz, the Indiana State coach, the more he moves to the top of my list. 

His record has been awfully impressive. Young, and a good evaluator of talent by finding guys who fit his system. 

[southsidehoosier 5,149]

12 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

The more I read about Josh Schertz, the Indiana State coach, the more he moves to the top of my list. 

His record has been awfully impressive. Young, and a good evaluator of talent by finding guys who fit his system. 

Potential getting an at large bid at ISU is impressive.

[coonhounds 10,479]

Dusty is a risk. Kinda Archie crean type risk? That being said if he wants the job give it to him. It's to early to give up on Woodson but I am sure by looking at our numbers by the end of season most will be ready to move on

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[TTT 1,301]

If and when ever the time comes coaches to keep in mind:  Steve Alford love story

                 And a coach just up 46 in Terre Haute (up and coming) and a winner thus far 48 year old Josh Schertz…see if he wins MVC and makes tournament runs….recruiting well and teams off season work, conditioned, prepared excellent for games, teams put together well with good character, graduates players, and players like playing for him.….and IU men’s basketball are lacking in these areas.

[Muskie for three 307]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

If and when ever the time comes coaches to keep in mind:  Steve Alford love story

                 And a coach just up 46 in Terre Haute (up and coming) and a winner thus far 48 year old Josh Schertz…see if he wins MVC and makes tournament runs….recruiting well and teams off season work, conditioned, prepared excellent for games, teams put together well with good character, graduates players, and players like playing for him.….and IU men’s basketball are lacking in these areas.

Definitely going to run modern basketball sets . At least be fun to watch at some point .

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,216]

2 hours ago, coonhounds said:

Dusty is a risk. Kinda Archie crean type risk? That being said if he wants the job give it to him. It's to early to give up on Woodson but I am sure by looking at our numbers by the end of season most will be ready to move on

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It's past time to give up on Woodson.

[coonhounds 10,479]

It's past time to give up on Woodson.

The fact is its to early! We win Friday in the call center and win a few more then what? So yea it's to early but the writing is on the wall.

We really do need a home run here though. Still shocked with so much on the line we went with what we did with Woodson

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[coonhounds 10,479]

Put me down for chris beard as my number1. He can coach and I believe in second chances. None of us were there for the altercation so really can't judge to much.

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[Hornsby 3,870]

The fact is its to early! We win Friday in the call center and win a few more then what? So yea it's to early but the writing is on the wall.We really do need a home run here though. Still shocked with so much on the line we went with what we did with Woodson

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We have lost 19 in a row in the kohl center. I probably have as good of a chance of winning the lottery as we do winning in that building with this team. I would say keeping united under a 15 point loss would be a huge accomplishment.

 

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[J34 1,615]

6 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I personally don’t care about having a seat at the table with the top recruits, I think the coach should recruit players that fit his style of play and are high character players 

Shouldn't the coach be viewed as high character also. Beard is viewed as having  questionable character by many fans(not just our fans). Coaches,in a lot of cases, have to gain the trust of mothers and grandmothers. Not sure an alleged domestic charge will sit well with quite a few of them. Not that I am for or against, but after getting feedback from the women in my life, probably not a great hire. Perception is important. 

[Hoosier2014 289]

Mark me down for Scott Drew or Tommy Lloyd if the change is this season. Or write a blank check to Dan Hurley. 
 

If it’s next year/beyond, I could may be convinced on Dusty May. 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

1 hour ago, J34 said:

Shouldn't the coach be viewed as high character also. Beard is viewed as having  questionable character by many fans(not just our fans). Coaches,in a lot of cases, have to gain the trust of mothers and grandmothers. Not sure an alleged domestic charge will sit well with quite a few of them. Not that I am for or against, but after getting feedback from the women in my life, probably not a great hire. Perception is important. 

Yes, but everyone makes a mistake and should have a chance to make amends and given at least a second chance

[Scotty R 3,367]

32 minutes ago, Hoosier2014 said:

Mark me down for Scott Drew or Tommy Lloyd if the change is this season. Or write a blank check to Dan Hurley. 
 

If it’s next year/beyond, I could may be convinced on Dusty May. 

Why would either of them come here and leave their current job. You just don't see coaches leaving a top program to go to another one. Look at the latest hires from blue blood programs.

UNC former player and assistant

Duke the same 

Syracuse the same

Villanova unproven coach

[IU - Kaulie 2,090]

It’s hard to envision Woodson leaving voluntarily.  He thinks he can bring titles here. The rest of the season can get pretty bad though.  It can get much worse than it is right now.  I don’t know if that happens he would think about getting out though. I’m sure he would think he could turn it around and right the ship.  It’s going to take people close to him to tell him to get out.  Is the old guard (Buckner, May, IT) going to do that because we finally got an IU guy?

[J34 1,615]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Yes, but everyone makes a mistake and should have a chance to make amends and given at least a second chance

Agree on the second chance, but if this JR tweet from a year and a half ago, still holds a drop of water, then hard pass. If you feel that kind of pressure to win in football country, to the point of drinking, imagine the pressure he will feel in Bloomington. And we complain about Woody having a cigar after a loss.

[IU - Kaulie 2,090]

If we are discussing potential coaches I would have to think more about it, but if there is one hard no it’s Chris Beard.

[Hoosier2014 289]

17 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Why would either of them come here and leave their current job. You just don't see coaches leaving a top program to go to another one. Look at the latest hires from blue blood programs.

UNC former player and assistant

Duke the same 

Syracuse the same

Villanova unproven coach

Very true but you’d be shocked at how a pay raise can entice people. $6 mill a year plus heavy bonuses sounds pretty good.