General Coach Candidate News

[Unexpectedflash 1,713]

Just now, Coach Robby said:

I understand your point. I just don't see him leaving Buffalo for Alabama for one season, then wanting to come here to potentially ruin his career. He's at the biggest football school in the country, making sweet money, and having success. I'm all for getting the best candidate, but I have a feeling if any contact was made here, or will be made, it will be very, very brief. 

He just seems like someone that would thrive in this job. After Archie I've learned it takes a certain personality to be the coach here and I think he has it. Maybe he doesn't want to be in the football teams shadow. But like I said it'd be Dolson's job to convince him. That's why he makes the big bucks. 

[Trish 14,470]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Been gone for a few hours miss anything?

Just me trying to save Indiana fans from wanting Woodson. 

Just another Wednesday really. 

EDIT: Race is in transfer portal 

[Moye > Boozer 241]

8 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

I think we have a misunderstanding of innovative.  

None of that is innovative.  That stuff has been around awhile.  

Semantics about what is truly considered "innovative" ----- a sandwich shop that just makes the same old sandwiches but does it a heckuva lot faster??? Worked okay for Jimmy Johns. A TV series that is based on recording people's everyday lives? Worked okay for the Kardashians (don't ask me how I know) and the zillion other reality TV shows. 

There is something truly "innovative" about Oats, however. And here's the quote from the article:

"I think a lot of people don't get it," Oats told CBS Sports. "Some coaches think you can't play fast and still be great on D. Well, no. You can. Offensive pace shouldn't dictate defensive effort."  

I'd say that concept would play pretty well in Bloomington, don't ya think???

[akumanina 422]

Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

He just seems like someone that would thrive in this job. After Archie I've learned it takes a certain personality to be the coach here and I think he has it. Maybe he doesn't want to be in the football teams shadow. But like I said it'd be Dolson's job to convince him. That's why he makes the big bucks. 

If he keeps growing and becomes one of the major names in D1, his ego can get bigger and may take a blueblood gig, but timing is just not on our side at this point. 

[Dave from Dayton 4,003]

Steady now fans.  I'm not panicking. These players entering the transfer portal makes sense.  IU is likely talking to them but not about who will be head coach and what that head coach will do.  So the players really should be checking their situations.  Transfer portal is not irrevocable.  Here, take a seat.

I am waaaaay over panicking.  I thought that RMK was heading toward self immolation.  Panicking, yes. I was panicking when IU gave RMK a zero tolerance edict.  Then the players wanted Davis as HC...panic.  Then when he who must not be named who was on NCAA isht list already was hired, panic.  Then he and that one assistant cheated and were not monitored with proper oversight by IU...panic.  Then the players revolted, stopped going to class and DD kicked them off the team...panic.  Then, contrary to some posters on this site recently...many of us had done some background on Crean.  We knew what we were getting.  He was clean.  Didn't emphasize defense.  And was really not wrapped tight and overhyped lots...panic.  And then Archie Miller was hired.  But contrary to some posters, he also was not universally touted by fans.  He was a risk.   I was a fan of his at Dayton.  Was pleasantly surprised he was on the short list and was hired.  But, he couldn't break through after year 1.  Injuries, backup plans, lack of innovation, you name it...losing...panic.   I am not panicking now.  And some posters worry if IU can bounce back after Archie Miller...give me a break.

What, me worry?

Edited March 24, 2021 by Dave from Dayton

[Unexpectedflash 1,713]

Just now, Moye > Boozer said:

Semantics about what is truly considered "innovative" ----- a sandwich shop that just makes the same old sandwiches but does it a heckuva lot faster??? Worked okay for Jimmy Johns. A TV series that is based on recording people's everyday lives? Worked okay for the Kardashians (don't ask me how I know) and the zillion other reality TV shows. 

There is something truly "innovative" about Oats, however. And here's the quote from the article:

"I think a lot of people don't get it," Oats told CBS Sports. "Some coaches think you can't play fast and still be great on D. Well, no. You can. Offensive pace shouldn't dictate defensive effort."  

I'd say that concept would play pretty well in Bloomington, don't ya think???

Gonzaga and Arkansas are really the only other teams that play as fast as Alabama but also manage to have good defenses. Most of the other top 10 defensive Kenpom teams are playing at snail's paces. 

[SlamaJamaSisley 3,585]

12 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Username checks out!

Especially now ...

[ClusterHead 44]

Dolson keeping this quiet and tight-lipped is tough on the perception of the coaching search.  While so can appreciate the candor and thought of keeping it in house, the constant lack of any sense of direction outside of Stevens is not doing a lot to instill confidence right now.  Players are leaving (potentially) and we are staring at Crean, year 1 version 2.

There is a difference between keeping the details under wraps, but leadership should display some sense of direction and progress.  Example: you don’t want to know how a butcher makes the sausage but you need to know that your order is being worked on and has a rough timeline for completion.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,822]

I’ve wanted Oats ever since I saw him call out Coach K and tell Will Wade to get the f*** out after beating him for the conference title. That’s the kind of energy I want to see from our coach. 

[Hardwood83 5,020]

5 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Gonzaga and Arkansas are really the only other teams that play as fast as Alabama but also manage to have good defenses. Most of the other top 10 defensive Kenpom teams are playing at snail's paces. 

All 3 are in the S16 and we want all 3 of those coaches....coincidence? 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,906]

10 minutes ago, Coach Robby said:

I understand your point. I just don't see him leaving Buffalo for Alabama for one season, then wanting to come here to potentially ruin his career. He's at the biggest football school in the country, making sweet money, and having success. I'm all for getting the best candidate, but I have a feeling if any contact was made here, or will be made, it will be very, very brief. 

Well he's been at Bama for 2 seasons, not 1 :-). 

Potentially ruin his career? There'd be 20 Bama's lining up for his services if he failed here. 

Being at the biggest football school in the country means you have no chance of basketball being near as important. Some might want to play second fiddle. He doesn't seem to have that personality.

He's making sweet money there but could make sweeter money here. 

If he can have success at Alabama, there is no evidence he can't have success here. 

[RaceToTheTop 31,006]

3 hours ago, Treesh said:

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 

Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 

Hi Scott. 

No. I don’t read message boards....I mean HE doesn’t.

Damn it.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,366]

4 hours ago, Treesh said:

Woodson is an old fart. It looks like he got his first NBA head job at 43? Okay that's pretty good solid for the NBA even back in 2004. 

And since this Old Fart is nearly 73, Woody's just a young whippersnapper to me.   

Everybody is different and you all know people in their 50's who simply don't have any gas left in their tank.  Likewise, you know people in their 70's and maybe even in there 80's who are just as active today as they were 20 or 30 years ago.  The age issue is a valid issue, but you can't automatically assume that they can't be effective just because they're "x" years old.

[cybergates 516]

33 minutes ago, Treesh said:

He's taking the year off and waiting for Pittsburgh to open up next year.

Have to collect the IU check's before he accepts a lower paycheck next year. 

He gets paid the same (10mil over 3yrs) whether he takes a job with a lower paycheck (IU makes up the difference) or not. Can't make less, can only make more (unlikely, but then IU would be off the hook)

[kottke 919]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Been gone for a few hours miss anything?

Did you see anyone "interesting" when you went to get your COVID test?

[AZ Hoosier 10,830]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Been gone for a few hours miss anything?

nope... just the usual bickering and sniping... #Bwahahaha

What breaking news do you have for us?

[Moye > Boozer 241]

3 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Well he's been at Bama for 2 seasons, not 1 :-). 

Potentially ruin his career? There'd be 20 Bama's lining up for his services if he failed here. 

Being at the biggest football school in the country means you have no chance of basketball being near as important. Some might want to play second fiddle. He doesn't seem to have that personality.

He's making sweet money there but could make sweeter money here. 

If he can have success at Alabama, there is no evidence he can't have success here. 

I'll also add, the way Dolson spoke of the second donor covering "transition costs" or whatever his vernacular was lead me to think ---- transition cost = "buyout of the new coach's existing contract" ----- more than it meant ponying up for the next coach's annual salary. Any of you take it the same way? Again, not saying that's how he meant it but more how I took it. $12M might be extreme. Though I hope not!!

[NashvilleHoosier 3,906]

1 minute ago, Moye > Boozer said:

I'll also add, the way Dolson spoke of the second donor covering "transition costs" or whatever his vernacular was lead me to think ---- transition cost = "buyout of the new coach's existing contract" ----- more than it meant ponying up for the next coach's annual salary. Any of you take it the same way? Again, not saying that's how he meant it but more how I took it. $12M might be extreme. Though I hope not!!

My take is that I thought $12M was extreme until I heard what we were gonna pay Stevens. Oats makes $3.225/year right now. We could offer $4.5-$5M/year and pay the buyout and in 6 years or so we'd have spent less than we would have on Stevens. If the total package for Stevens was doable, the total package for Oats is. 

[Coach Robby 542]

10 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Well he's been at Bama for 2 seasons, not 1 :-). 

Potentially ruin his career? There'd be 20 Bama's lining up for his services if he failed here. 

Being at the biggest football school in the country means you have no chance of basketball being near as important. Some might want to play second fiddle. He doesn't seem to have that personality.

He's making sweet money there but could make sweeter money here. 

If he can have success at Alabama, there is no evidence he can't have success here. 

well said, I forgot it has been 2 years!

[AZ Hoosier 10,830]

6 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

And since this Old Fart is nearly 73, Woody's just a young whippersnapper to me.   

Everybody is different and you all know people in their 50's who simply don't have any gas left in their tank.  Likewise, you know people in their 70's and maybe even in there 80's who are just as active today as they were 20 or 30 years ago.  The age issue is a valid issue, but you can't automatically assume that they can't be effective just because they're "x" years old.

Exactly... saw a piece on William Shatner the other day... the dude is 90 years old and is still riding horses every day... he looked like a guy in his early 60s, seriously.