General Coach Candidate News

[iubb]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

[Hovadipo]

Beard is dominating the general thread to the point that he needs his own. Let's steer that discussion over this way if you'ns don't mind.

[tyappleg]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

 

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

And don't forget drew is too religious. People can find something wrong with anyone if they want. Especially those that live to judge other people they do not know or have ever met.

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For sure!

That's why the interviewing and vetting process is so key.

Because someone actually could be 'too religious', chemically dependent, or abusive. But, an effective vetting process will shed great light on whether there is even an issue, or whether a prior issue may may no longer be an issue.

[Hornsby]

So back to talking about the huss bus?

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[Mopladysman]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

Beard is dominating the general thread to the point that he needs his own. Let's steer that discussion over this way if you'ns don't mind.

Hasn’t even been hired yet and he’s already dominating!

[Eagle’s Rug]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

And don't forget drew is too religious. People can find something wrong with anyone if they want. Especially those that live to judge other people they do not know or have ever met.

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Opinions are generally judgement calls based upon information that is not comprehensive.  Have you met any of the candidates in this process?

[OKHOOSIER]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

There was an article that was shared here from over a year ago which was talking about Danny Hurley's recruiting philosophy. He basically said he recruits players for their offense since offensive is what wins championships.

I can only compare this to hockey as that is the only sport I played at a high level (post high school, pre-IU), but offensive instincts and stick work skills are much harder to teach and get better by the time someone is 18, but defensive philosophy is much more teachable to "adults" assuming they buy in. Scorer's score, and it starts at really young age. Kids get typecast positionally into forward or defense much younger in hockey than in other sports in my experience (think like 10-12 years old at the AAA travel level). Often by the time they are at an age where all five players need to understand and execute defensively, they are terrible at it lol-- but it can be taught. Spacing and being in the right place on offense is much more instinctual. Id imagine high level basketball is similar. 

Thanks for listening, back to arguing. 

[HoosierHoopster]

3 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I can only compare this to hockey as that is the only sport I played at a high level (post high school, pre-IU), but offensive instincts and stick work skills are much harder to teach and get better by the time someone is 18, but defensive philosophy is much more teachable to "adults" assuming they buy in. Scorer's score, and it starts at really young age. Kids get typecast positionally into forward or defense much younger in hockey than in other sports in my experience (think like 10-12 years old at the AAA travel level). Often by the time they are at an age where all five players need to understand and execute defensively, they are terrible at it lol-- but it can be taught. Spacing and being in the right place on offense is much more instinctual. Id imagine high level basketball is similar. 

Thanks for listening, back to arguing. 

I played as well, and on my experience the positioning started at the pee wee or squirt level (no one else here will even know what that means lol). I was a center from the age of 5 on.... We didn't get all 5 D buy in until HS

[Hovadipo]

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

Love you guys

[Crazy about IU]

3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm hearing that Dolson has been having some serious behind-the-scenes talks with Chris Collins' representatives. 

Scott and the IU administration like that Collins is from a fellow B1G school, runs a clean program and has taken them to their first three NCAA tourneys. They think he can really prosper at IU with better NIL and easier admissions. And Collins thinks he'd be able to more at IU than at NW. 

Dolson, who knows his hoops, also thinks Collins' is a whiz when it comes to X's and O's. Plus, we just can't beat the guy, so we're looking to get him to join us. I wouldn't be surprised when Northwestern's season ends to hear an announcement of Collins to IU. 

OK, I completely made that up. Just trying to create a diversion from all this sordid Chris Beard debate. (BTW, I actually do think Collins would be a very good hire for IU). 

I will go on record saying he is on my top tier list. I love it 

 

[iubb]

Time for a DAD JOKE



Why did the pirate balloon stay inflated?

 

 

 

Because it's full of Arrrrr!

[FartsMcGee]

6 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

Love you guys

Love you 2 bro

Edited March 7, 2025 by FartsMcGee

[go iu bb]

2 hours ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that he isn't a good coach, just that his career numbers don't really warrant the weird obsession with him. Even if you include his one season at LR (17-3) and his D2 time he is a career .520 coach in conference games with one final four and two elite eights. He is an excellent non-conference coach. He has done well in his  NCAA experience. He is not (as of yet) remotely elite in conference games at the P5 level. One (tie with KU) conference title.

 He is a good coach. He is not (as of yet) the second coming of RMK and has baggage many folks are uncomfortable with. Dolson will have to weigh those things. I also think winning at TT and OM is hard, but GM seems to have done well at TT so who knows. I think good coaches produce good results, sometimes location is really overstated as a marker of coaching chops (I am skeptical of Collins and Brownell for example-- I think Beard would win more than either of them have at NW or Clemson respectively).

Anyways, doubt he gets beyond interviews and vetting since he'd be at UK or UL if he could, but I will trust Dolson even if I disagree with his candidacy for HC at IU. 

FWIW and without comment: just being charged with something like that would keep you from being hired in my industry. It does not matter if the charges are dropped, they are visible on an FBI 10-year and would preclude someone from getting called back, much less getting to the interviews required for attaining the clearance needed. 

You're doubling counting the E8 on the way to the FF. The way you say it makes it seem like he's had 3 runs in the tournament instead of 2.

[tyappleg]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I sent some recent posts to the Beard thread. Nothing deleted, just trying to steer that discussion to its place.

Love you guys

Mods finally woke up. /s

[jumpshot53]

25 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Beard has his own thread.  Take the beard stuff to that thread please 

Sorry!  I did not know that.  Thanks!

[Stuhoo]

 

RK	Team	REC	PTS	TREND
1	Auburn(61)	27-2	1525	-
2	Duke	26-3	1458	-
3	Houston	25-4	1396	1
4	Tennessee	24-5	1326	1
5	Florida	25-4	1247	2
6	St. John's	26-4	1179	1
7	Alabama	23-6	1176	1
8	Michigan State	24-5	1165	-
9	Texas Tech	22-7	947	1
10	Iowa State	22-7	918	1
11	Clemson	24-5	905	2
12	Wisconsin	22-7	815	1
13	Maryland	22-7	628	3
14	Louisville	23-6	606	5
15	Missouri	21-8	603	1
16	Memphis	24-5	560	2
17	Michigan	22-7	494	2
18	Purdue	20-9	454	2
19	Kentucky	19-10	417	2
20	Marquette	22-7	409	1
21	Saint Mary's	27-4	399	2
22	Texas A&M	20-9	364	10
23	BYU	21-8	287	2
24	Arizona	19-10	162	2
25	Mississippi State	20-9	87	1

 

Others receiving votes: VCU 85, Vanderbilt 78, Oregon 37, Drake 18, UC San Diego 17, Illinois 16, Ole Miss 13, Gonzaga 8, UCLA 8, Kansas 5, High Point 4, UConn 4, New Mexico 2, Creighton 2, Akron 1

 

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So currently, both McCollum and Olen's guys are ranked ahead of Kansas, Illinois, Oregon, UCLA, UConn, Creighton, and Gonzaga

[Hornsby]

Opinions are generally judgement calls based upon information that is not comprehensive.  Have you met any of the candidates in this process?

Nope and that's why I don't judge people I've never met. I leave that up the the purity crowd online who are more than happy to judge people based stuff they read online.

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[ceast11]

Just a general FYI for everyone: Only positive posts regarding Bradley Kent Stevens are allowed on the General Coaching News Thread.

Edited March 7, 2025 by ceast11

[HOOSIERINJURTLAW]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Professors here in town want Whitten gone, if she ok's the hire of Beard, that is all they need to push her out the door. 

She just signed an extension... she is not going anywhere. You do not know what you are talking about.