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Give Josh Schertz the IU NIL money, put a team together and go win a national championship.  

(Give NIL money to T. Moren and IU Ladies Basketball program as well).

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Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Question: Does anyone know the benefit of negotiating a lower buyout if you have no plans of leaving? I cannot really make sense of it. Not trying to insinuate with this question just trying to understand 

The only reason I could think (outside of planning to make yourself available):

”Hey everyone, my buyout is very reasonable, come dangle offers my way so I can leverage them for a higher salary”

Maybe the thinking on his part is that 18.5 million buyout makes it completely unlikely that anyone would be able to hire him away, therefore unlikely that ISU would feel much pressure to further increase his salary.

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4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

FWIW, I am thinking that IUBB shot map is likely a real improvement from last year's.

It's pretty similar which is quite funny.

 

But our division ranks this current year are disgusting. It's pretty shameful to be this bad across the board with this much talent. 

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15 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Cronin would be Tom Crean level ceiling but more consistency. Not bad but not worth his buyout.

The buyout for me is the issue I think Dolson will have.  You don't pay 10mil for him.   Dolson you hear that!?

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1 minute ago, JimmerNoe said:

The only reason I could think (outside of planning to make yourself available):

”Hey everyone, my buyout is very reasonable, come dangle offers my way so I can leverage them for a higher salary”

Maybe the thinking on his part is that 18.5 million buyout makes it completely unlikely that anyone would be able to hire him away, therefore unlikely that ISU would feel much pressure to further increase his salary.

That makes sense. Just a strange thing to try to wrap my head about. Probably why agents are paid the big bucks. 

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If we are going to discuss ACC coaches - personally I'd take Forbes over Brownell - older but I do think the roof is higher with him.

Plus he was known as a really good recruiter plus when he was an asst each school seemed to be very successful - 

Head coach records:
 

Coaching Record

 
Season School Conf G W L W-L% SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Final Notes Adjusted
Career Overall   326 220 106 .675 7.03 2.05          
  East Tennessee State Men's 173 130 43 .751 4.48 -2.42          
  Wake Forest Men's 153 90 63 .588 9.59 6.52          
2015-16 East Tennessee State Southern 36 24 12 .667 -1.49 -2.29          
2016-17 East Tennessee State Southern 35 27 8 .771 7.31 -2.11       Reg. Season Champion; Conf. Tournament Champion; NCAA Tournament  
2017-18 East Tennessee State Southern 34 25 9 .735 3.72 -4.09          
2018-19 East Tennessee State Southern 34 24 10 .706 5.21 -1.79          
2019-20 East Tennessee State Southern 34 30 4 .882 7.63 -1.82       Reg. Season Champion; Conf. Tournament Champion  
                           
2020-21 Wake Forest ACC 22 6 16 .273 1.72 8.06          
2021-22 Wake Forest ACC 35 25 10 .714 13.24 4.75          
2022-23 Wake Forest ACC 33 19 14 .576 8.25 5.43          
2023-24 Wake Forest ACC 35 21 14 .600 14.94 7.52          
2024-25 Wake Forest ACC 28 19 9 .679 9.80 6.87          

 

 
Posted
4 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Question: Does anyone know the benefit of negotiating a lower buyout if you have no plans of leaving? I cannot really make sense of it. Not trying to insinuate anything with this question just trying to understand 

Nope there's none.  If you have no plans to leave you gladly agree to a higher buyout in exchange for a higher salary or guaranteed NIL funds.

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4 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

The buyout for me is the issue I think Dolson will have.  You don't pay 10mil for him.   Dolson you hear that!?

It's 16mil until April 1.

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It's pretty similar which is quite funny.
 
But our division ranks this current year are disgusting. It's pretty shameful to be this bad across the board with this much talent. 
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It’s taken Woodson so long to learn winning coaching moves. He has slightly improved in some aspects, that certain fans pointed out in year 1.

He genuinely thought his NBA ways would translate and dominate college hoops. It’s taken him so long to alter those beliefs. He may never acknowledge it publicly but he’s learned some hard lessons over these 4 years. But that just moves him closer to average than awful.




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Posted
8 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I will Acknowledge truth hurts admitted to his abrasiveness and he’s just trying to talk about other candidates. It would bother me and everyone attacked me every time i posted. I see a page being turned :-)

Well, I haven’t seen you insult everyone’s cognition either, so you’re probably safe on that front lmao

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Just now, OKHOOSIER said:

Well, I haven’t seen you insult everyone’s cognition either, so you’re probably safe on that front lmao

He’s toned down is what I’m getting at 

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6 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

If we are going to discuss ACC coaches - personally I'd take Forbes over Brownell - older but I do think the roof is higher with him.

Plus he was known as a really good recruiter plus when he was an asst each school seemed to be very successful - 

Head coach records:
 

Coaching Record

 
Season School Conf G W L W-L% SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Final Notes Adjusted
Career Overall   326 220 106 .675 7.03 2.05          
  East Tennessee State Men's 173 130 43 .751 4.48 -2.42          
  Wake Forest Men's 153 90 63 .588 9.59 6.52          
2015-16 East Tennessee State Southern 36 24 12 .667 -1.49 -2.29          
2016-17 East Tennessee State Southern 35 27 8 .771 7.31 -2.11       Reg. Season Champion; Conf. Tournament Champion; NCAA Tournament  
2017-18 East Tennessee State Southern 34 25 9 .735 3.72 -4.09          
2018-19 East Tennessee State Southern 34 24 10 .706 5.21 -1.79          
2019-20 East Tennessee State Southern 34 30 4 .882 7.63 -1.82       Reg. Season Champion; Conf. Tournament Champion  
                           
2020-21 Wake Forest ACC 22 6 16 .273 1.72 8.06          
2021-22 Wake Forest ACC 35 25 10 .714 13.24 4.75          
2022-23 Wake Forest ACC 33 19 14 .576 8.25 5.43          
2023-24 Wake Forest ACC 35 21 14 .600 14.94 7.52          
2024-25 Wake Forest ACC 28 19 9 .679 9.80 6.87          

 

 

Steve Forbes! Haven't seen that name yet; add him to the board!

Personally, would not. Hasn't yet made a tournament at Wake, though they've been better with him than the last two coaches.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Nope there's none.  If you have no plans to leave you gladly agree to a higher buyout in exchange for a higher salary or guaranteed NIL funds.

Wouldn’t you having a lower buyout heighten the chances you could leave and therefore give you more leverage?

Posted
13 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Question: Does anyone know the benefit of negotiating a lower buyout if you have no plans of leaving? I cannot really make sense of it. Not trying to insinuate anything with this question just trying to understand 

If his main gripe with ISU is NIL he can now say “Hey donors, my contract no longer makes me untouchable, better pony up”.. that wouldn’t necessarily make sense why ISU would give it to him, but neither does anything else really. Unless that’s the only way he’d sign. 

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52 minutes ago, OliviaPope40 said:

They've done others too... Drew, Brownell, McDermott, Dusty, BS, Cronin ... so they're covering all of their bases...

https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2025/2/14/24365708/indiana-basketball-coaching-candidate-profiles

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34 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Not that he's been talked about a lot but you can probably take Buzz off the list. That's A LOT of cash. 

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I obviously have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or whom Dolson is/was targeting, but other than some people here liking him -- I don't think Buzz ever was a serious candidate. 

And not because he lacks the coaching chops. More because he's a Texas boy, and I think is right where he wants to be. 

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