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[Scotty R 2,215]

3 hours ago, Dillion said:

I also know a family well that isn’t too happy with Woodys lack of involvement like the other head coaches are that are recruiting him. It’s their main concern right now and they want to be shown love by the head coach.


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If true that is a good reason to make a change this year

[Kentuckysucks 2,302]

Why are we discussing coaches?  We were just in first place.  We're close guys.

 

 

[Bankshot 544]

9 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

If we beat Illinois does this convo calm down? 
I’ve got some real questions about Woodson’s ability to move things forward, mostly centered on his failure and lack of concern about developing an outside game and failure coming into this season to bring in guards, but it is just year 3 and we did just have JHS — who a bunch here for about half the season kept posting how he wasn’t a one and done, wasn’t good enough, and then he found his stride with X out. 

I’m not big on the rush to push Woodson out in just 3 years and expect the idea will fail. Do think he gets the off season and next season to show. I’m not super confident on what this team can do this season— they look like an NIT team at this point, but it’s still fairly early. Rough schedule now and they’ll have to find a way to finish well — we’ll see.

Not for me (and others too I presume/hope).

It’s not just about the W/L record, it’s also about how we play. Playing stupid, sloppy, inconsistent, etc. needs to be addressed, and it doesn’t seem like this staff is showing a strong enough commitment (so far…year 3) to address it.

[IUrocker 2,203]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Why are we discussing coaches?  We were just in first place.  We're close guys.

 

 

Well hey, at least we know their practices are translating to games….

[go iu bb 6,265]

4 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Why are we discussing coaches?  We were just in first place.  We're close guys.

 

 

Neither are the games. That's the problem

[Scotty R 2,215]

2 hours ago, KYHoosier said:

Dusty May and Josh Schertz may end up being great coaches at big time universities in the future but there is no way you can convince me either are ready or qualified to become IU's next coach. Both should prove themselves in the P5 ranks as winners before they are asked to coach one of the biggest pressure cooker jobs in all of college bball.

My top, realistic candidates would be Shaka Smart, Greg McDermott, Scott Drew, Chris Beard (don't agree with his character, but you at least give him an interview), and Bruce Pearl. I think IU could land one of these coaches and all could handle the job and win here. You can risk going after another unproven coach.

There have been plenty of HOF coaches that went from mid major to their big time job 

RMK Army to IU

Coach K Army to Duke

Calhoun Northeastern to UCONN

Roy Williams Assistant at UNC to Kansas

Boheim Assistant at Syracuse to HC at Syracuse .

Keady W. Kentucky to Purdue

I am sure there are a lot more but that is off the top of my head

[Bankshot 544]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

There have been plenty of HOF coaches that went from mid major to their big time job 

RMK Army to IU

Coach K Army to Duke

Calhoun Northeastern to UCONN

Roy Williams Assistant at UNC to Kansas

Boheim Assistant at Syracuse to HC at Syracuse .

Keady W. Kentucky to Purdue

I am sure there are a lot more but that is off the top of my head

Maybe not all “HOF” but:

Ryan at Wisconsin

Donovan at Florida

Izzo at MSU

Pitino from Providence

 

 

[HoosierHoopster 7,157]

14 minutes ago, Bankshot said:

Not for me (and others too I presume/hope).

It’s not just about the W/L record, it’s also about how we play. Playing stupid, sloppy, inconsistent, etc. needs to be addressed, and it doesn’t seem like this staff is showing a strong enough commitment (so far…year 3) to address it.

We didn’t play “stupid” and “sloppy” last season. 3 years is nothing and you’re ignoring even last year. We’ll see

[Scotty R 2,215]

6 minutes ago, Bankshot said:

Maybe not all “HOF” but:

Ryan at Wisconsin

Donovan at Florida

Izzo at MSU

Pitino from Providence

 

 

Forgot Izzo

 

 

 

 

[Stuhoo 81,490]

31 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

If we beat Illinois does this convo calm down? 
 

Winning cures everything 

[HoosierHoopster 7,157]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Winning cures everything 

I’m not exactly confident in this team, but it aint over until the fat lady sings 

:)

[str8baller 5,407]

24 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

We didn’t play “stupid” and “sloppy” last season. 3 years is nothing and you’re ignoring even last year. We’ll see

We did. Most didn’t notice it because we had the talent to overcome it. 

[Uspshoosier 46,145]

2 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

There are some HCs (not just Woody) who very much recruit this way.

Not many do it this way.  Honestly can’t think of any that do it that way.    It was pointed out early by many this could end up being a problem for IU in long recruitments.    Woodys success on the recruiting trail has always been short recruitments.   Head coach needs to be involved early and often and is a multiple year commitment to the player.   It was always a high risk approach to recruiting this way instead of a traditional way of recruiting in college.    Hopefully it works out for IU 

[Herotime 766]

3 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

I say it every time there is a possible coaching change. I’m grew up watching Bruce Pearl win at Southern Indiana. He is older but still has the enthusiasm as one much younger. He said IU was his dream job and he has plenty of connections to Indiana high schools. His past was a tad bumpy at times but all those rules have changed now. If we go looking for another coach I would have him in my top three. Most proven coaches will be unrealistic. I promise you he is better than anything we have had in a long time. 

Pearl would be my number one choice as well

[tkbbn 504]

3 hours ago, Bankshot said:

 

Yes! I've heard that stuff too (don't know for sure how true and accurate it is or not) but it is EXACTLY the kind of short-sighted and questionable upper management behavior I'm referring to.

Indiana hasn't just been bad for almost 30 years because we're cursed or because there aren't any capable coaches out there. Most of our wounds have been self-inflicted. 

Successful organizations that truly pursue excellence do not do business this way.

Jeez, we are sounding more and more like Georgetown. 

[Hornsby 2,132]

This isn't a guy I would want for our next coach but I am posing the question. How did Woodson get hired over Dane fife? Let's leave the rumors of why he was fired out for the moment. He did a pretty darn good job at ipfw then went and sat on the bench behind 1 of the very best coaches in the game! Just talking qualifications wise fife seems like the safer hire. I get alot goes into coaching hires. My guess is he probably would have been good which is why iu went with the old nba guy lol.

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Buckner. This was his hire.

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[Hornsby 2,132]

Find a way to make the tournament and 90% of this goes away. Maybe more, but this isn’t a tournament so we have different things to worry about.


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True but this team isn't sniffing the tourney. We would probably need to finish 9-3 or 8-4 worst case. Now our best player is in the dreaded bot so who knows how long he is out.

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[coonhounds 9,134]

He had a losing record at IPFW - feel like many people think he lit it up. He was then just an assistant. 
The other was an NBA head coach and many more seasons. Not saying he was “qualified” but not even close to Fife. 
 

Yes but I believe he started when ipfw was first moved to division 1. I would have to look but I felt like he got them respectable.

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[Uspshoosier 46,145]

8 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

The HC can’t be in all places at once. Assistants need to pull him in when it is time. 

No he can’t but it’s just a different approach to recruiting in college than the normal.   These guys get a certain amount of days to be out on the recruiting and a certain amount of visits per recruit.  I get his approach I just don’t agree with it.   He wants to be the closer and have his assistants do most the heavy lifting and get kids on campus so he can close.   That approach can work and will work in certain recruitments however for most long recruitments especially in-state recruitments the head coach better be visible as much as the rules allowed.   If that means you go to a high school game after your own game you do it.   Head coaches need to be grinders that basically have no life besides coaching and recruiting.   Eat, Breathe, Sleep recruiting and your own team.    With the portal there are no months off anymore.  In my opinion I don’t think he has done that or wants to do that.  Just my opinion though 

[Hornsby 2,132]

Seems like you should be placing some huge money bets against IU - lot of guys really sure of these next 12 games and the outcome :)

I don't gamble. Just going off what I currently have seen on the court.

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