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[KYHoosier 340]

Dusty May and Josh Schertz may end up being great coaches at big time universities in the future but there is no way you can convince me either are ready or qualified to become IU's next coach. Both should prove themselves in the P5 ranks as winners before they are asked to coach one of the biggest pressure cooker jobs in all of college bball.

My top, realistic candidates would be Shaka Smart, Greg McDermott, Scott Drew, Chris Beard (don't agree with his character, but you at least give him an interview), and Bruce Pearl. I think IU could land one of these coaches and all could handle the job and win here. You can risk going after another unproven coach.

Edited January 22, 2024 by KYHoosier

[Hornsby 2,095]

This along with[mention=7005]Chris007[/mention] post along same lines are completely alarming and tell us all we need to know. He is not willing to put everything he has into this job. If that's the case then so long Woody. How can an AD be ok with this?

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Archie was a bad coach but he did hit the state hard. Woodson is not 100% invested in this so who cares if there is an offseason meeting. He is only getting older and he isn't suddenly going to live and die this job 24/7 like many other coaches would do

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[TheWatShot 14,092]

50 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

This along with@Chris007 post along same lines are completely alarming and tell us all we need to know. He is not willing to put everything he has into this job. If that's the case then so long Woody. How can an AD be ok with this?

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I also found it disturbing when someone posted the other night that none of the staff was out recruiting this weekend. No idea if that's true or not, but coaches and their assistants should never not be recruiting, at least if they have any aspirations of staying in this profession. 

[Hornsby 2,095]

I also found it disturbing when someone posted the other night that none of the staff was out recruiting this weekend. No idea if that's true or not, but coaches and their assistants should never not be recruiting, at least if they have any aspirations of staying in this profession. 

I jokingly said Woodson took off to Arizona to golf with quinn for a few days. Sadly it may not be far off

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[Kentuckysucks 2,269]

4 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I also found it disturbing when someone posted the other night that none of the staff was out recruiting this weekend. No idea if that's true or not, but coaches and their assistants should never not be recruiting, at least if they have any aspirations of staying in this profession. 

Sure sounds like they know the end is near.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,560]

Is Woodson really that lazy? 

[TheWatShot 14,092]

1 hour ago, Dillion said:

I also know a family well that isn’t too happy with Woodys lack of involvement like the other head coaches are that are recruiting him. It’s their main concern right now and they want to be shown love by the head coach.


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I'm not making excuses for Woodson, but this is a big reason why we need someone younger. A lot of recruits these days want people to "show them love." You see it on social media constantly, recruits practically begging for coaches to notice them and reach out to them. Perhaps they lack a significant father figure in their lives? Whatever the reason, Woodson doesn't seem like the type of coach who will play that game. Probably why we're not making any kind of inroads at the high school level lately. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,269]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Is Woodson really that lazy? 

He's old not necessarily lazy.  He also never had to recruit in the NBA.  

[Stuhoo 81,325]

In my opinion, Bruce Pearl would not be the guy that spends 200 days on the road beating the bushes in high school gyms either. 

[Trish 11,622]

6 hours ago, Chris007 said:

CC has a spot on the staff as long as he wants one. No matter the coach.

I could see that, especially with him leaving the Pacers to join the Hoosiers. He might have that “legacy” contract like Tim Garl.

[Kentuckysucks 2,269]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

In my opinion, Bruce Pearl would not be the guy that spends 200 days on the road beating the bushes in high school gyms either. 

Why you think that?  He's like Tom Crean after a dozen diet cokes but a great coach too.

[Trish 11,622]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

I loves me some Micah Shrewsbury.

Maybe I'm wrong and I understand he hasn't achieved all that much as a head coach, but damn, he seems to be a dude to me.

Agreed. But 4 different schools in the last five years or something is crazy to me. 
 

Id throw the Brad Steven’s contract at Hurley and see what he does. 

[Trish 11,622]

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Is Woodson really that lazy? 

It wouldn’t surprise me with his age and his health issues. His walk looks like it hurts. 
 

If Woodson was 10-15 years younger I would have a bit more confidence, but he’s in a whole new ball park with being a college head coach vs a NBA assistant. This is a 365 job, not late September to April job. 

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1 minute ago, Trish said:

Agreed. But 4 different schools in the last five years or something is crazy to me. 
 

Id throw the Brad Steven’s contract at Hurley and see what he does. 

We might have to throw a Brad Steven’s contract to get literally any caliber coach. I imagine we’d have to pay a premium given the IU dysfunction. 

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5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Why you think that?  He's like Tom Crean after a dozen diet cokes but a great coach too.

Pearls 62, we'd be hiring another old man and searching again in no time.

Plus he's a sleaze bag.

[Stuhoo 81,325]

3 minutes ago, Trish said:

Agreed. But 4 different schools in the last five years or something is crazy to me. 
 

Id throw the Brad Steven’s contract at Hurley and see what he does. 

Hey Trish… just asking…

Have you always been that guy that went home alone because you took a try at the supermodel and came up empty?

[HoosierTrav 7,898]

6 hours ago, str8baller said:

A lot of guys win at the lower level, though. I like it to a prize fighter climbing up the ranks. When Dusty May gets to the ACC or B1G likely every coach there will be better than the coaches in his current league, for example.  
 

So how do you sniff out the Bo Ryan’s, Brad Underwoods, Thad Mattas, etc.. from the Archie Millers of the world? I think it is as much of an art as a science. Having an AD who knows how to practice that art is key, imo. 

There are markers believe it or not. Not just winning at the lower levels but dominance/excellence. Multiple conference titles, both regular season and tournament. Typically these guys tend to win right away or very shortly after transitioning to higher levels. 
 

Shertz is a guy to keep an eye on. He fits the bill. He was over .800 win percentage with multiple championships prior to ISU. His offenses are always at the top of the sport I terms of efficiency. Dude is a wizard on the offensive end. Thats translating to higher levels at ISU. They are top 25 in the nation, offensively, this season. 
 

bigger and bigger fan of Shertz with each passing day. 

[Trish 11,622]

18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey Trish… just asking…

Have you always been that guy that went home alone because you took a try at the supermodel and came up empty?

No sir! I know my expectations which is why I knew the Woodson hire was a bust from the start ;) 

[Hornsby 2,095]

I'm not making excuses for Woodson, but this is a big reason why we need someone younger. A lot of recruits these days want people to "show them love." You see it on social media constantly, recruits practically begging for coaches to notice them and reach out to them. Perhaps they lack a significant father figure in their lives? Whatever the reason, Woodson doesn't seem like the type of coach who will play that game. Probably why we're not making any kind of inroads at the high school level lately. 

He has only landed one fall recruit the last two summers. A year ago he whiffed on everyone

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[Home Jersey 7,972]

26 minutes ago, Trish said:

Agreed. But 4 different schools in the last five years or something is crazy to me. 

Id throw the Brad Steven’s contract at Hurley and see what he does. 

If you think Dan Hurley is coming here I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. I mean, Bobby? Maybe... Probably not who you want though. Lol