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General Coach Candidate News

By JaybobHoosier, in Indiana Men's Basketball

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Magisterium    421

Magisterium
Posted
10 minutes ago, T White said:

I see a lot of people say this, but they never say WHAT else happened. 

sorry but that's wrong, it's been said numerous times on several message boards:

Drew (not just his assistants) got the program cited by the NCAA for "failure to monitor" (a la Kelvin Sampson) and the school suspended Drew from coaching for several games. Also, the NCAA found that Drew's program violated rules prohibiting having "talent scouts" at its basketball clinics.

We can debate all day and all night how egregious or innocuous Drew's behavior was back then, but none of that debate really matters. The only  thing that matters is, how would Dolson and the BOT feel about Drew's history, especially after the Sampson debacle?

Maybe they feel that disqualifies Drew from consideration; maybe they think it's no big deal. I don't pretend to know, but what I do know is 1) what Drew actually did and 2) how it involved more than just Morefield's interactions with Perea.

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hoosierbannerd    2,722

hoosierbannerd
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9 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Rather fail with integrity than pass by cheating.  Also why not just do your job and study for the test instead of taking the easy way out.

Agreed with the above.

It's called character. If it's ok to cheat in one aspect of your life-say as a coach or player to "get what you want" that to me makes it awful damn easy to do it in other aspects-  to a girlfriend, a wife, etc.  Though RMK had character flaws, the fact that he abhorred cheating and held kids to higher standards showed he was a teacher first. He cared about the kid's future. I was watching his Hall of Fame acceptance speech last night and he said the thing that made him proudest as a coach was the kind of people his former players-many in leadership roles- turned out to be. As a teacher, that's what you want.  Call me naive, old-fashioned, whatever.

Many fans IMO are most concerned with "bragging rights"- our school is better than your school, etc. I have been a fan since the early 80's and like many on here, I long for a return to glory. And perhaps, Crean operated in the gray area; but to my knowledge that has never come out. For me,  if IU has to "play the game" to be like Kentucky; then I will find something else to do with my winter afternoons/evenings.

For the glory...

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8bucks    7,124

8bucks
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11 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Can we just hire Beilein already?

Has he been linked to any other job?  If not, then why not wait while you try to land a younger guy who will have the success he had before leaving Michigan 

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mdiu28    2,566

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3 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Has he been linked to any other job?  If not, then why not wait while you try to land a younger guy who will have the success he had before leaving Michigan 

I saw him mentioned in an article mentioning Marquette and Minnesota. Both those programs have coaches now. 

He'll probably be mentioned for the Texas job as well, especially if Beard says no. He's a big enough name that he'll be mentioned in any large opening. 

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HomeBrew911    23

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Unless reps for Drew and Musselman have already told IU no, I don't see how IU moves forward until they interview either or both of them. My personal opinion is they are the two most realistic choices. Musselman brings a shot of energy this program desperately needs and kids are going to love to play for him. I understand why Drew may not be the most popular option but he is probably the best choice. He is the guy you bring in to be here for twenty years. I think he would turn the program around quickly, compete for big10 titles, go to the tourney every year and possibly win a national championship. And Drew is probably a guy you don't have to worry about making a jump to the NBA.

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Hippopotamo    641

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

The buyout was to get rid of Archie before the boosters, game revenue, and general fan interest cratered.

May not be as much to do with the hire is as you think.

Agreed. They kind of have to be treated as separate decisions even though they’re connected. 

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Trish    13,049

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

The buyout was to get rid of Archie before the boosters, game revenue, and general fan interest cratered.

May not be as much to do with the hire is as you think.

That’s part of the thinking. Once I found out who the booster was I started to realize there may not have been insurances to guarantee great hire...

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