General Coach Candidate News

[IUCrazy2]

1 hour ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

I’m 32. My first memories are sitting in a basement watching the mid to late 90s teams with my dad. Guyton, Patterson etc. my favorite team of all time is the 2001-2002 team. Loved every guy on that team. Outside of that run I haven’t seen any success other than random short runs. But I cheer my @$$ off and scream at the tv every night. My best friend has 3 young boys that can tell you the name and number of every player on the team. I think the older generation (not directed at you guys have no idea how old you are, just in general) I think they under estimate how much the younger generation and future generations are just as passionate. When people say it’s Indiana Basketball, it is. It’s not Bobby Knight basketball, it’s not 5 banner basketball. It’s the state of Indiana and how much meaning the sport holds to us, and we all want it to be successful no matter what era we grew up in. We want to win, we want to be proud of the flagship program that reflects our passion.


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I don't doubt that at all.  I am just saying that the fanbase now is not ignorant of basketball or somehow less than it was in the past because people's patience has basically worn out.

"Back in the day" things looked more rosey because they were.  People were not getting as bent out of shape because we were winning.  Alot.  The malcontents also did not have easy access to each other without the internet.  News came through the paper or the Inside Indiana you got mailed to you once a month.  You usually knew who we were recruiting by the announcement that they were going to Indiana.

You just cannot compare the two eras and use one to bash the other.

[FrenchConnection]

4 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

Tom Izzo: 0
Matt Painter: 0
Chris Holtmann: 3
Greg Gard: 0
Brad Underwood: 1
Juwan Howard: 0

These are arguably the best coaches in the BIG. The numbers listed = the number of years these coaches had at a power 6 conference before taking a head coaching job in the BIG.

Chris holtmann was at butler, which kinda counts. Other than that, not many examples of a BIG school hiring an established coach of another major conference. Turgeon was hired away from Texas A&M but he is pretty mediocre.

Another one for you Wayne, Bo Ryan never had a power 6 job and barely a D1 job for that matter before he took over Wisconsin.


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Juwan Howard coached for the best coach in the sport for 5 years before going to UM. That’s why I like Fife among the IU guys. 

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Painter was at Purdue 1 year before taking over

Handpicked by a successful coach and able to step in and maintain a system instead of having to start from scratch 

[IUc2016]

Juwan Howard coached for the best coach in the sport for 5 years before going to UM. That’s why I like Fife among the IU guys. 

He was still considered a risk. I mean he literally had 0 college coaching experience


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[Gnet550]

19 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I WANT BRAD ******* STEVENS!!!

HE IS THE ONLY COACH WE SHOULD WANT. HIM OR NATE OATS.

BRAD STEVENS, THE KING OF THE MIDWEST!!!!

Speaking of you Treesh...hear any more info you were trying to get earlier?

[IUc2016]

Painter and Gard were both coach in waiting not the same at all 

Disagree 100%. Both were risks just as hiring an up and comer.


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[FrenchConnection]

4 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

He was still considered a risk. I mean he literally had 0 college coaching experience


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No doubt. It was a huge risk. Fife would be an even bigger one at IU because our program is such a dumpster fire right now. My point is that when evaluating assistants, the key thing is who they coached with not just the fact that they did it.

Edited March 27, 2021 by FrenchConnection

[Dalton26]

59 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I dislike Doyel the way most of you all dislike Dakich.  For the record, I like Dakich. For the record, I’d like to kick Doyel in the shin.  

Doyle is my least favorite “reporter” on the planet. 

[NVFalcons1990]

6 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

He was still considered a risk. I mean he literally had 0 college coaching experience


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He still could be the next Kevin Ollie.......

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

No doubt. It was a huge risk. Five would be an even bigger one at IU because our program is such a dumpster fire right now. My point is that when evaluating assistants, the key thing is who they coached with not just the fact that they did it.

True, also Fife doesn’t carry the respect that Howard carries.  The Fab 5 was mememorialized, and that coolness and swagger still carries.  Rare thing.  He’s still exceeding all expectations regardless of fame/pedigree.  Fife is a much bigger risk.  Would Isiah Thomas coming back to coach the Hoosier carry like Juwan carries?  Lol.  

[IUc2016]

He still could be the next Kevin Ollie.......

Let’s hope so!!


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[94Bulldog]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Another woof.

Someone get Goodman off this beat. He is trying so hard to embarrass us, and we are making it easy for him.


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I unfollowed and muted him.  Every IU fan should do the same, Doyle, Katz and Snow as well.  The less replies and retweets we as a fan base give, the better it is imo. 

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[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

I don't doubt that at all.  I am just saying that the fanbase now is not ignorant of basketball or somehow less than it was in the past because people's patience has basically worn out.
"Back in the day" things looked more rosey because they were.  People were not getting as bent out of shape because we were winning.  Alot.  The malcontents also did not have easy access to each other without the internet.  News came through the paper or the Inside Indiana you got mailed to you once a month.  You usually knew who we were recruiting by the announcement that they were going to Indiana.
You just cannot compare the two eras and use one to bash the other.

I wasn’t trying to bash at all. If anything, I think I’m trying to say all eras are still way more similar than we
Give each other credit for. We loved through different results, coaches, media outlets, technology, but our passion and pride and desire to win is all very very similar.


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[Deserthoozier]

34 minutes ago, PB1230 said:

How much Howard success can be attribute to Phil Martelli, especially since Howard’s recruiting impact hasn’t really come into play yet

Perfect set up and scenario.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

41 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Izzo, too long ago.  Not the same environment. 

Holtmann-3 years of success at Butler.  Moderate risk.  
 

Juwan Howard- is a good argument.  He’s got a special fame that has allowed amazing recruiting.  So far he has knocked it out of the park.  He’s unique.  Which up and coming coach can walk into Indiana and land the #1 recruiting class?  I’ll take that guy.  

 

Kids today still know who the Fab 5 is because it gets blasted ok Twitter and ESPN and whatever else at times. Plus Michigan is already a gigantic brand. The recruits know they'll be getting Jordan brand of whatever. It was a perfect situation I think. As for someone like Penny Hardaway... Guys just don't know Penny these days. He's just a guy that could have been great without the injuries. 

[Brass Cannon]

9 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

Disagree 100%. Both were risks just as hiring an up and comer.


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Didn’t say they weren’t risks. But to equate them as the same as hiring somebody brand new is just ridiculous. 

[Deserthoozier]

18 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Painter and Gard were both coach in waiting not the same at all 

Gard is still resting on the Grinch’s laurels - those kids r near 30 yrs old! Will be interesting to see how he does on his own.

[IUc2016]

Didn’t say they weren’t risks. But to equate them as the same as hiring somebody brand new is just ridiculous. 

Lol but they are quite literally brand new


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Dolson likes ex Butler coaches.

How many believes it? What source?

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[Capt. Crimson]

I’m so fired up tonight I’m just thinking we hire Rick Pitino and go full villain. Haha.


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