IUc2016 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting? Make a statement hire! Take no prisoners! Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park. Win. Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe. Umm not saying it will work for IU...But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job... Knight and izzo?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
PB1230 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Zeroed in is probably the wrong word to use but should say reached out Also, I'm curious to know when this contact actually happened. Was it in the last few days or was it like a week ago when IU was potentially sending out feelers to 20+ coaches? How many coaches has Texas already reached to through similar back channels? IU Scott 1
ronzo4IU Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting? Make a statement hire! Take no prisoners! Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park. Win. Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe. Thats what i said i see in Oats if we’re willing to spend that kind of money.
FrenchConnection Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said: We just need somebody with that certain type of “je ne sais quoi” and the only one I see in this is Oats. I’m not a win at all cost guy, so i could see going the cheaper route with an up and commer like Dane Fife etc.... The hardest part IMO for SD is detecting that certain something that eventual great coaches have. Why would Oats leave Alabama. He seems to have no problems recruiting talent to play there and he gets to build his own thing. At IU, he would have to rebuild a program and coach in the shadow of a HOF coach who still lives in town. TheDarkKnight69, Teague and NVFalcons1990 3
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, IUc2016 said: Umm not saying it will work for IU... But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job... Knight and izzo? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Literally eons ago, when players stayed for 4 years and the best players were Seniors. I don’t need to rethink this.
RaceToTheTop Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, PB1230 said: Also, I'm curious to know when this contact actually happened. Was it in the last few days or was it like a week ago when IU was potentially sending out feelers to 20+ coaches? How many coaches has Texas already reached to through similar back channels? That’s the funny thing. We have actually interviewed guys.....but we ‘zeroed in’ on someone the AD hasn’t even talked to? MikeRoberts, Golfman25 and PB1230 2 1
IU Scott Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, FrenchConnection said: Why would Oats leave Alabama. He seems to have no problems recruiting talent to play there and he gets to build his own thing. At IU, he would have to rebuild a program and coach in the shadow of a HOF coach who still lives in town. It's INDIANA LOL! NVFalcons1990 1
IU Scott Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: Literally eons ago, when players stayed for 4 years and the best players were Seniors. I don’t need to rethink this. Pretty much all the top coaches started out at a low level and moved up the ladder. Everyone wants Oats and 3 years ago he was in Buffalo. 8bucks 1
iu eyedoc Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Indiana won’t win with an up and comer. When has that worked in the B1G at the level Indiana is wanting? Make a statement hire! Take no prisoners! Knock 2-3 straight recruiting classes out of the park. Win. Don’t lose momentum. That’s the recipe. Well let's see Tom Izzo Chris Holtzman Juwan Howard IUc2016 1
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: Pretty much all the top coaches started out at a low level and moved up the ladder. Everyone wants Oats and 3 years ago he was in Buffalo. True, but he’s proving himself at a higher level. Personally I’d still like to see a little more longevity out of him but he seems to have the “it” factor to gamble on. IU Scott 1
rcbowla Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Umm not saying it will work for IU...But you might want to do some rethinking. The two most accomplished coaches ever in the BIG have been up and comers when they took the BIG job... Knight and izzo?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appGene Keady and Jud Heathcote (I know it was because of Magic).Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk IUc2016 1
prodigal hoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Dedicated IU Faithful: "Mr. Dolson, it's been a woefully long time since the basketball program has shown any semblance of a return to prominence; could you at least give us some minor reassurance regarding your plan to replace Archie Miller to make IU relevant again in light of all these conflicting 'insider sources,' player transfer portal entries and social media reports claiming to know what's going on?" Scott Dolson: "Well, you know, my plan has a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-you's... And uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Dolson's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, coaching candidate regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber." Deserthoozier 1
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said: Well let's see Tom Izzo Chris Holtzman Juwan Howard Izzo, too long ago. Not the same environment. Holtmann-3 years of success at Butler. Moderate risk. Juwan Howard- is a good argument. He’s got a special fame that has allowed amazing recruiting. So far he has knocked it out of the park. He’s unique. Which up and coming coach can walk into Indiana and land the #1 recruiting class? I’ll take that guy. IUsafety 1
ronzo4IU Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Why would Oats leave Alabama. He seems to have no problems recruiting talent to play there and he gets to build his own thing. At IU, he would have to rebuild a program and coach in the shadow of a HOF coach who still lives in town. Closer to home? Maybe....fan base, icon status....bunch of stuff you won’t get there.
IUc2016 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Literally eons ago, when players stayed for 4 years and the best players were Seniors. I don’t need to rethink this. Wait izzo only coached eons ago? I’m confused? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
Hoosierfanyuh Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 IUBB has media in a twitter fight but we arent relevant lmao HoosierSadaseci, Stuhoo, IUsafety and 3 others 5 1
iubb Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said: IUBB has media in a twitter fight but we arent relevant lmao they get them sweet sweet hate clicks which means $$$$$ NVFalcons1990 and Hoosierfanyuh 2
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IUc2016 said: Wait izzo only coached eons ago? I’m confused? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app When he started and built his hall of fame resume. Yes. Once you have a hall of fame resume things get easier, and you’re not an up an comer. He didn’t start in the 1 n done era. Juwan Howard is an amazing counter example to my point. But, he’s cultural icon. He’s a unicorn. Our best similar option would be Cheaney but zero chance he recruits like Howard. Zero. Juwan Howard should be like Patrick Ewing but he’s not. He’s got it going. Edited March 26, 2021 by WayneFleekHoosier Deserthoozier and IUsafety 2
iu eyedoc Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: Izzo, too long ago. Not the same environment. Holtmann-3 years of success at Butler. Moderate risk. Juwan Howard- is a good argument. He’s got a special fame that has allowed amazing recruiting. So far he has knocked it out of the park. He’s unique. Which up and coming coach can walk into Indiana and land the #1 recruiting class? I’ll take that guy. Izzo was hired as an up and comer and has won or shared 3 of the last 4 B1G titles. Not sure how he doesn't count. Too successful for too long? Throw in Thad Matta and Matt Painter.
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