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Just now, IUguy77 said:

Pretty good chance Celtics miss playoffs now. Levert back for Pacers and Bulls with a nice pickup on the trade. Potential for Celtics to finish 9th or 10th. 

NBA has a playoff for the 8 seed now so places 8-10 all have opportunity. That being said I think the Pacers with a healthy Levert and the Bulls got better today while Celtics at most only slightly got better. They’ll still have an opportunity to play for the playoffs even if falling to 10

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5 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

I don't pretend to know a great deal about the NBA but with the Bulls landing Vucevic, strong case can be made Stevens now coaches at best the sixth most talented team in the East:

1. Nets

2. Bucks

3. 76ers

4. Heat

5. Bulls

6. CELTICS

That CANNOT give him the warm and fuzzies. 

All those years the Celtics had the Nets' lottery pick, and the Nets are above them now. Celtics fans can't be too happy with that. Not to mention they gave up the last pick for a player who's now playing for the Nets (Irving). 

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Something to be said about a coach that failed early, went and worked under Majerus and changed his whole coaching outlook.  People want coaches to adapt and here is an example of a coach doing that.   If IU hired him they would be hiring the new version and not the fired Illinois St coach.   Not saying he is the top choice but I would be willing to give him a chance.  He definitely wouldn’t win the press conference I’m guessing but then again that might be a good thing in the long run 
I will give anyone a chance and root for them but I'm of the belief that a tourney run shouldn't all of a sudden elevate you to the top if just a week ago you weren't even close to that. Just seems hasty and short sighted. Kind of where I'm at with Musselman as well tbh.

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8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Something to be said about a coach that failed early, went and worked under Majerus and changed his whole coaching outlook.  People want coaches to adapt and here is an example of a coach doing that.   If IU hired him they would be hiring the new version and not the fired Illinois St coach.   Not saying he is the top choice but I would be willing to give him a chance.  He definitely wouldn’t win the press conference I’m guessing but then again that might be a good thing in the long run 

I would give him a chance. And it could certainly work. But like most have said, odds are you are getting the coach who missed the tournament 15 out of 17 years. 

EDIT: I guess 14 out of 16 because last year was canceled. 

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7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Something to be said about a coach that failed early, went and worked under Majerus and changed his whole coaching outlook.  People want coaches to adapt and here is an example of a coach doing that.   If IU hired him they would be hiring the new version and not the fired Illinois St coach.   Not saying he is the top choice but I would be willing to give him a chance.  He definitely wouldn’t win the press conference I’m guessing but then again that might be a good thing in the long run 

He worked for Majerus from 2007 to 2011. He took the Loyola job in 2011 and then posted six straight losing conference seasons. Whatever he did to change his coaching outlook, it took quite a while for it to show in in the win column...

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8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bringing in a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 years to fix a program that has made 4 tournaments in the past 13 years would be a disaster. We need a major hire. Our program looks like a joke to outsiders. The only way to change that is to make a serious hire. Hire Chris Beard or Scott Drew? Ok, they have things figured out. Hire Calbert Cheaney or Porter Moser? Not so much. 

Fwiw, there are MAJOR differences between Porter Moser and Calbert Cheaney. They aren't in the same category from a coaching resume and, thus, candidate perspective. 

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3 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

Just saying, finishing 5 through 10 in your own conference is all NBA purgatory. Celtics are shaping up to be irrelevant for quite some time. 

Yep. 42-40 will kill your franchise, especially if it isn’t a free agent destination. So essentially the Pacers.

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11 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

Fwiw, there are MAJOR differences between Porter Moser and Calbert Cheaney. They aren't in the same category from a coaching resume and, thus, candidate perspective. 

Oh for sure, I don’t mean to equate the two as candidates. Cheaney, honestly imo, shouldn’t even be in consideration. Moser at least is a current head coach who is having success at his school. I just think both guys are examples of coaches who wouldn’t change the current outside perception of the program. Hiring Moser would just make it look like we swapped one mid major flavor of the month for another. Hiring Cheaney would definitely look way worse, though.

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Oh for sure, I don’t mean to equate the two as candidates. Cheaney, honestly imo, shouldn’t even be in consideration. Moser at least is a current head coach who is having success at his school. I just think both guys are examples of coaches who wouldn’t change the current outside perception of the program. Hiring Moser would just make it look like we swapped one mid major flavor of the month for another. Hiring Cheaney would definitely look way worse, though.

Hopefully Dolson is going to pick whoever he feels is the best candidate and won’t give a crap about outside perception of the program.   We got enough posters on message boards that worry enough about what outside people think of the team they follow 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hopefully Dolson is going to pick whoever he feels is the best candidate and won’t give a crap about outside perception of the program.   We got enough posters on message boards that worry enough about what outside people think of the team they follow 

With like half our team in the transfer portal though, whoever we hire is probably going to need to remake the roster for next season. Poor outside perception of the program could make the new guy’s job harder in that regard. 

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I'm seeing 2 different train of thought in this thread.
1 we need a home run
2 we need to hire now because 4 players are in the transfer portal

If #1 the names mentioned are still coaching in the Tournament. If #2 we are not getting the homerun hires. We would be getting either a retired coach or a coach whose team is done for the season.

What do you want

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Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

With like half our team in the transfer portal though, whoever we hire is probably going to need to remake the roster for next season. Poor outside perception of the program could make the new guy’s job harder in that regard. 

Good news is there is a lot of fish out there. I'm not meaning to bash any of the guys in the portal, but we kind of knew Al was gone. Parker never even suited up for IU. Geronimo doesn't surprise me at all. Hope Armaan and Race come back. 

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2 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

I'm seeing 2 different train of thought in this thread.
1 we need a home run
2 we need to hire now because 4 players are in the transfer portal

If #1 the names mentioned are still coaching in the Tournament. If #2 we are not getting the homerun hires. We would be getting either a retired coach or a coach whose team is done for the season.

What do you want

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Well, what I fear is the worst of both worlds: we wait to hire someone and they aren’t a home run. So we miss out on transfers but don’t even get a good coach out of it. 

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