General Coach Candidate News

[T White 299]

1 hour ago, bigrod said:

I will say there have been many successful college coaches who don't succeed in the NBA.

I wonder how many people are aware of Calipari's highly unsuccessful NBA resume? For the record, he went 72-112 in the NBA.

[8bucks 6,342]

26 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Who is going to shoot the basketball for us next year? LOL

Our best shooters are gone. 

We had shooters?

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

1 minute ago, Bankshot said:

Agree. I’ve had similar thoughts.

Example: Why did an unproven Archie Miller still have a $10 million buyout after four years?

I think that its standard in a contract to have a $10m buyout, but there should be a clause (and I posted something similar to this when Archie was hired) that if the coach misses the tournament the buyout drops if he misses 2 tournaments in a row, buyout drops further, etc. But if lets say in year 3 he goes to the FF, then buyout goes back to standard buyout on contract. You would think Glass would have learned his lessen from the Tom Crean buyout. 

 

This also makes me wonder, if Glass hadn't extended Crean in 2013, is Crean fired earlier? do we still get archie and have to fire him? or do we get Shaka or someone else? Either way, do we end up in the same place?

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,920]

You guys trying to depress me today aren't you?

[ClusterHead 44]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 

Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 

Hi Scott. 

Hello there, Mr. Treesh!  I mean...ummm, errr...I’m not Scott Dolson...ahem...I don’t even know a Scott Dolson.  My name is Guy Incognito!

[Chris007 43,556]

11 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

What kind of physical did they give him -- climb Mt. Everest?  As long has he could get around and felt like he could do the job, what's the deal.  

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

[brandct 610]

Just now, T White said:

I wonder how many people are aware of Calipari's highly unsuccessful NBA resume? For the record, he went 72-112 in the NBA.

We are also highly aware of his highly successful resume of forfeiting final fours. To say that he does things above board would be a stretch. 

[Golfman25 4,994]

9 minutes ago, bigrod said:

You don't know that. Maybe we offered him, he said no, but then we gave him a physical anyway and he failed it.

IF he said no, even worse (assuming he felt he was healthy).  

[lillurk 3,738]

41 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

It seems to me it makes perfect sense that Dolson would move from Stevens to interviewing retirees and IU grads. All of the other top candidates were still coaching until this past weekend, so it would make perfect sense to get the interviews with the others out of the way while you wait for your top candidates to free up. That way you can say you covered all your bases, and don't waste the down time.

 

40 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I'd also add that I wouldn't place any urgency on the search just because a few guys enter the portal. The program needs a massive infusion of talent. Losing a few current players, even someone like Franklin, might be a step back next year, but is a small price to pay for getting the right hire in place for the long-term.

Thank you, exactly this. You probably couldn’t interview any of the current HCs any earlier than maybe Beard sometime this week? So instead of sitting on your hands you talk to some other folks, even coaches you almost certainly wouldn’t hire at this point.

Matta makes sense as a high choice IF he’s healthy, as has been said pretty frequently. Not at all crazy. If he’s not, well.

Franklin and Stewart would be nice to keep, but they’re both going to hear out the new coach, whoever and whenever that happens.

Everyone relax. M

[Trish 11,505]

1 minute ago, ClusterHead said:

Hello there, Mr. Treesh!  I mean...ummm, errr...I’m not Scott Dolson...ahem...I don’t even know a Scott Dolson.  My name is Guy Incognito!

Announce Brad Stevens or I'm going to start a revolution. I'll turn Indiana fans into Purdue fans. Don't make me, Scott.

[akumanina 313]

11 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Dolson then strategically leaks that the top candidate is Mike Woodson

Are you sure about this? That's a strong accusation that Dolson is playing a mind game because he missed a white whale. 

[IUCane 173]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

IF he said no, even worse (assuming he felt he was healthy).  

My "educated" guess is we inquired about the opening.  Matta said he was intrigued but didn't feel like he could "physically" handle the demands of the job.  "Rumors" spread he failed a physical NOT that he politely turned us down due to fact he didn't feel like he could put 100+% into the position.

Edited March 24, 2021 by IUCane

[IU Prof 782]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

Interesting. If true, that would mean the IU Athletic Department's immediate squashing of that rumor was untruthful. 

I'm still skeptical, just because I don't even know what a failed physical would mean in this context. What would we be concerned about specifically that would physically prevent him from taking the job? It just doesn't pass the smell test to me, no offense intended Chris (I know you are just passing along what you heard, which I appreciate)!

Edit: I get that he has health issues that could prevent him from giving it his all, but it's not clear what a doctor would tell us in that regard that would cause us to discount Matta's own assessment of his condition.

Edited March 24, 2021 by IU Prof

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 485]

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 
Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 
Hi Scott. 

Hey Treesh, great to be here...

Oops...I mean... yeah I'm sure he does.

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[Golfman25 4,994]

Just now, Chris007 said:

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

Yeah, I know.  It was rhetorical, not directed at you.  Thanks

[Trish 11,505]

2 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Interesting. If true, that would mean the IU Athletic Department's immediate squashing of that rumor was untruthful. 

I'm still skeptical, just because I don't even know what a failed physical would mean in this context. What would we be concerned about specifically that would physically prevent him from taking the job? It just doesn't pass the smell test to me, no offense intended Chris (I know you are just passing along what you heard, which I appreciate)!

Coaching is a stressful job. Look how much Archie age'd in four years. Although I'm happy for him for losing the weight and getting in shape this past season!

If Thad can't pass a simple physical then he has no business being our coach. 

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 485]

Had a conference call this morning so I'm taking it at the airport. I arrived around 1030 and a jet was landing... I've been watching but only crew has left the plane... door is open but no activity

Probably a big nothing burger..

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[Stuhoo 79,569]

53 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Jason Kidd was pretty good too :-)

Not by then; he was 39 and in his last year.

[AZ Hoosier 6,528]

20 minutes ago, brandct said:

Yeah because multiple guys leaving screams come play basketball here.

Parker and Aarman have not left yet. They entered the transfer portal to enable them to keep their options open... both have said that they aren't necessarily or definitely leaving... just that they want to look around and talk to other programs. If IU gets a solid coach, he can keep both... no need to panic yet... IU basketball is not (yet) circling the drain...

I'm not directing this at anyone - more of a generalization, but is it just me, or does the entire IU basketball fan base seem to be totally schizophrenic?

[IU Prof 782]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

Coaching is a stressful job. Look how much Archie age'd in four years. Although I'm happy for him for losing the weight and getting in shape this past season!

If Thad can't pass a simple physical then he has no business being our coach. 

Yeah, I get that. I edited my post above to clarify what I was saying. It's not clear what a simple physical is going to tell us that would disprove whatever Matta feels about his health. Are we worried about his cholesterol? His white blood cell count? His back, specifically? If the back, what exactly is the standard we are using to determine if he's healthy enough to coach? In the abstract the idea sounds plausible, but the specifics don't actually make much sense.