General Coach Candidate News

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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Best coach we could get?

A great question that we'll never be able to answer in 2021. This I think we can all agree is true:

Somewhere out there is a first ballot hall of fame coach that is in his 30's or early 40's and on someone's staff. We can get him ... now.

THAT is the best coach we could get. Now name him (cause I can't ;)

Sure, I understand that. I don't think IU is in a position to take that route now. I'm advocating for the best known quantity.

For example Option 1-Brad Stevens. NO? ok who's next? Not Mike Woodson or up & comer guy. That is my opinion. 

 

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58 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But we'll take an NBA assistant?

It’s possible, yes. 

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51 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But we'll take an NBA assistant?

who hasn't sniffed the college game in 30 years.  

[HoosierTrav 7,928]

If it’s Woodson, I think we should wait to see what kind of staff he can put together, before we get our pitchforks out. Juwan Howard had zero head coaching experience and zero experience recruiting. He’s dominating right now. Woodson is highly respected amongst players and coaches in the NBA. If he can put together a high powered staff, I can absolutely see how young talent would want to come play for Woody. At this point, how much worse can it get than Archie? Bring on Woody. If he doesn’t work out, we can put the whole “IU needs an IU guy” theory to rest, for good. 

[Trish 11,904]

I would just like to state that Archie Miller ran a very good program here at Indiana, outside of winning of course.

We didn't have players running over each other, your start PG getting arrested during Little 500, grade issues. 

Thanks, Arch! 

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1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

who hasn't sniffed the college game in 30 years.  

Dolson said he would consider assistants and he wanted to bring a modern NBA focused approach... Woodson would allow him to claim success, if nothing else.

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6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Is that an actual rule? That seems bizarre

Why because a school employee needs a college degree? It’s not bizarre at all.

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I get the feeling someone in the AD is dropping some food coloring in the toilet tank. 

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20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

He's gonna be 63 this week. He can be a recruiting closer, but he's not gonna be out there beating the AAU bushes.

However, I really think his best recruiting plus is who he could put on staff. In the past ten years, he's been hanging out with so many big-name, high character NBA players: Felton, Delk, about to retire DeAndre Jordan (would be an incredible assistant), Melo and Rose, Jamal Crawford (what a GREAT get he would be). Too many others to name.

 

I think all of those guys could be leveraged for recruiting purposes.   But, I'm not sure any of them are big time college basketball assistants. 

I would think we would want to surround Woody with assistants who have experience on the recruiting trail.  Kenya Hunter seems like a no brainer to keep on board with his recruiting ties and abilities.  He would have the east coast recruiting ties.   I think an assistant with Indiana/midwest ties would be next.  

Next, I really think we need an assistant who would be our defensive coordinator so to speak.  Woody seems to be the offensive guru.  I think we need someone that could bring an expertise on defense to his staff.  

I'm softening to the idea of Woodson.  I think smart hires for assistant coaches could give us a pretty strong staff. 

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20 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Well he's coaching the slowest paced team in the entire NBA at the moment.

So... 

That's a Thibs coached team right there. 

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Just now, HoosierTrav said:

If it’s Woodson, I think we should wait to see what kind of staff he can put together, before we get our pitchforks out. Juwan Howard had zero head coaching experience and zero experience recruiting. He’s dominating right now. Woodson is highly respected amongst players and coaches in the NBA. If he can put together a high powered staff, I can absolutely see how young talent would want to come play for Woody. At this point, how much worse can it get than Archie? Bring on Woody. If he doesn’t work out, we can put the whole “IU needs an IU guy” theory to rest, for good. 

Juwan is also only 48. Woodson is 63 coaching one of the least entertaining NBA teams in the league currently. Howard has fresher perspective. 

We should also note Michigan's roster was already in good place from John's recruiting and Saddie's recruiting. He didn't start with nothing. 

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9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

In this age, having the strongest meme game is the key to success... Woodson is one of the best in that regard!

Crean would have 5 banners if this was true.

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I would just like to state that Archie Miller ran a very good program here at Indiana, outside of winning of course.
We didn't have players running over each other, your start PG getting arrested during Little 500, grade issues. 
Thanks, Arch! 

Well winning is at the top of the priority list otherwise there's no point. And he was astronomically bad at that portion

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Just now, ap2345 said:

Why because a school employee needs a college degree? It’s not bizarre at all.

The assistant coach is not a faculty member. I would speculate that over half of IU employees do not have degree or hold a position that does not require their degree.

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5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I get the feeling someone in the AD is dropping some food coloring in the toilet tank. 

Find the leak? 

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5 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Why because a school employee needs a college degree? It’s not bizarre at all.

Most coaching positions require bachelors and master's degrees. Now.. if you're an alum of the school things may be different. 

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So Dolson has made it clear that he wants an NBA-style offense ...... is that because he thinks it's the best way to lure top talent or because "modern" offense is the best way to win games at the college level? 

I realize it could very well be both, but the difference really does speak to Dolson's vision for the program ----- is IU a "destination school" for the 4 and 5 stars (if so we know who we'll be competing with) or is IU a place where kids can commit for 4 years and win that doesn't necessarily require the top talent?

Putting it more succinctly are we:

1) Hoping we can get a coach who can consistently recruit NBA talent

2) Hoping we can get a coach who can develop kids and ultimately win at the college level with lesser talent (not necessarily future NBA players) but kids who play hard and play with a high basketball IQ on both ends of the floor?

I have no concern with Woodson as a candidate overall, except I believe that puts Dolson's vision firmly in the "1" camp ----- and if we're trying to be Kentucky or Duke while running a clean program I say good luck. I think the Dolson thesis may be mistaken if that's the case. Hope to be wrong if that's the direction we go and certainly am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

 

 

Edited March 23, 2021 by Moye > Boozer
sorry mixed up my "A" and "1"s!

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Just now, Treesh said:

Juwan is also only 48. Woodson is 63 coaching one of the least entertaining NBA teams in the league currently. Howard has fresher perspective. 

We should also note Michigan's roster was already in good place from John's recruiting and Saddie's recruiting. He didn't start with nothing. 

Woodson isn’t starting from nothing either. If he can convince Duncomb to stay and allows Lander to play a style that suits him (also keep in mind he is YOUNG), then we can have a team that can get to the tournament. Parlay that into recruiting success and we are in business in year 2 or 3. One thing many either refuse to understand or refuse to admit, is that, there aren’t bad coaches in the NBA. Every coach in the NBA is one of the best in the world at their job. It’s why you see such a high fail rate amongst good college coaches who attempt the transition. Woodson being in the NBA for so long, is a testament to his ability as a coach. 

Also, kids don’t give a **** about the coaches age. Woodson gets Jamaal Crawford and Carmelo Anthony on a recruiting call, they’re not gonna care about his age, I promise you that. 

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11 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I would just like to state that Archie Miller ran a very good program here at Indiana, outside of winning of course.

We didn't have players running over each other, your start PG getting arrested during Little 500, grade issues. 

Thanks, Arch! 

He did. He deserves praise for that. 

[TheDarkKnight69 328]

If Dolson hires Mike Woodson, I doubt he had to “settle” to do so. If he is impressive in his interview and lays out a good plan for the program, and it convinces Dolson, I’ll be ok with it. Will we absolutely know that? No, but it’s what I’ll choose to believe if that’s what happens.