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[RatpigHoosier]

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[Bowhunter]

Phill Jackson. Run the triangle offense [emoji2]


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[Brass Cannon]

25 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Phill Jackson. Run the triangle offense


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I’ll take any offense that has worked this millennium at this point. 

[TheWatShot]

I played in the triangle offense growing up. It would be infinitely better than the garbage we're seeing now. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

30 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I played in the triangle offense growing up. It would be infinitely better than the garbage we're seeing now. 

I was raised playing motion offense. That's when my grade was most successful in AAU under my dad. During school ball they tried installing 500 sets and we sucked. 

[Demo]

Usually hate idle chatter threads like this, but, hey, sometimes a little cathartic primal scream is mentally healthy, right? So, what the hell.

Beilein-will put my admiration for Beilein up against anyone. He’s as good as it gets. But he’s about to be 68, and hiring a guy who might not recruit a full roster is not a solution. But, if you hire him along with a HC in waiting type, be it a young Asst(Mike Miller?) or a successful HC from a lower level(Greg Tonagel?), maybe you create a long term culture that way.

If you’re gonna call a current high D1 guy, it’s gotta start with Beard and Greg McDermott, doesn’t it? Beard’s undeniably great and McDermott’s created a system and a development structure that’ll play anywhere and any good kid would want to be a part of. After them, Oats makes some sense. I’m still a fan of Mike White. Really like Kevin Willard, though I doubt he would turn on a lot of folks around here. His teams play as hard anybody. Maybe Eric Musselman. 

If you’re trying for the “I’m the smartest guy in the room” under the radar mid-major hire, I can think of 2. Wes Miller, UNC-Greensboro, is just a great young coach. He may not be ready for the IU maelstrom yet, but he’s gonna be a big time guy at some point, somewhere. It would not bother me at all to jump on him while he’s still a little undercooked. Also love Craig Smith, the Utah St coach. Great coach, great energy, beautiful offense, and has the benefit of having been a B1G asst.

i also think if you’re gonna post in this thread, you need to post who you honestly wanted when Archie was hired, and whether or not you stand by that now. No hope options(Stevens) excluded. There were people who wanted Miller. There were people who wanted Gregg Marshall.  You gotta admit to that stuff. I wanted Brad Underwood. And I’d take him again in a second. 

[maharkn]

I was raised playing motion offense. That's when my grade was most successful in AAU under my dad. During school ball they tried installing 500 sets and we sucked. 

Iowa

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[JSHoosier]

7 hours ago, Demo said:

Usually hate idle chatter threads like this, but, hey, sometimes a little cathartic primal scream is mentally healthy, right? So, what the hell.

Beilein-will put my admiration for Beilein up against anyone. He’s as good as it gets. But he’s about to be 68, and hiring a guy who might not recruit a full roster is not a solution. But, if you hire him along with a HC in waiting type, be it a young Asst(Mike Miller?) or a successful HC from a lower level(Greg Tonagel?), maybe you create a long term culture that way.

If you’re gonna call a current high D1 guy, it’s gotta start with Beard and Greg McDermott, doesn’t it? Beard’s undeniably great and McDermott’s created a system and a development structure that’ll play anywhere and any good kid would want to be a part of. After them, Oats makes some sense. I’m still a fan of Mike White. Really like Kevin Willard, though I doubt he would turn on a lot of folks around here. His teams play as hard anybody. Maybe Eric Musselman. 

If you’re trying for the “I’m the smartest guy in the room” under the radar mid-major hire, I can think of 2. Wes Miller, UNC-Greensboro, is just a great young coach. He may not be ready for the IU maelstrom yet, but he’s gonna be a big time guy at some point, somewhere. It would not bother me at all to jump on him while he’s still a little undercooked. Also love Craig Smith, the Utah St coach. Great coach, great energy, beautiful offense, and has the benefit of having been a B1G asst.

i also think if you’re gonna post in this thread, you need to post who you honestly wanted when Archie was hired, and whether or not you stand by that now. No hope options(Stevens) excluded. There were people who wanted Miller. There were people who wanted Gregg Marshall.  You gotta admit to that stuff. I wanted Brad Underwood. And I’d take him again in a second. 

It's no secret where I stood on the Miller hire.  Second on a list of coaches I was intrigued by but wanted to see more out of before we hired them, behind Holtmann.  I didn't feel it was a homerun hire, more like a double and hoping the defense falls asleep; though now I realize it wasn't a double, it was a bunt.

[Demo]

20 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

It's no secret where I stood on the Miller hire.  Second on a list of coaches I was intrigued by but wanted to see more out of before we hired them, behind Holtmann.  I didn't feel it was a homerun hire, more like a double and hoping the defense falls asleep; though now I realize it wasn't a double, it was a bunt.

Yeah, he wasn’t one of my preferred guys, but I shouldn’t imply that I was down on the hire. I wasn’t. Struck me as a perfectly solid, if not terribly imaginative, choice. I didn’t picture a dead fail, and if someone says they did, I don’t really think I’d believe ‘em. But I didn’t realize just how antithetical his philosophy is to mine. He’s made IU almost worse than bad for me, he’s made them boring. 

[Hovadipo]

8 hours ago, Demo said:

Usually hate idle chatter threads like this, but, hey, sometimes a little cathartic primal scream is mentally healthy, right? So, what the hell.

Beilein-will put my admiration for Beilein up against anyone. He’s as good as it gets. But he’s about to be 68, and hiring a guy who might not recruit a full roster is not a solution. But, if you hire him along with a HC in waiting type, be it a young Asst(Mike Miller?) or a successful HC from a lower level(Greg Tonagel?), maybe you create a long term culture that way.

If you’re gonna call a current high D1 guy, it’s gotta start with Beard and Greg McDermott, doesn’t it? Beard’s undeniably great and McDermott’s created a system and a development structure that’ll play anywhere and any good kid would want to be a part of. After them, Oats makes some sense. I’m still a fan of Mike White. Really like Kevin Willard, though I doubt he would turn on a lot of folks around here. His teams play as hard anybody. Maybe Eric Musselman. 

If you’re trying for the “I’m the smartest guy in the room” under the radar mid-major hire, I can think of 2. Wes Miller, UNC-Greensboro, is just a great young coach. He may not be ready for the IU maelstrom yet, but he’s gonna be a big time guy at some point, somewhere. It would not bother me at all to jump on him while he’s still a little undercooked. Also love Craig Smith, the Utah St coach. Great coach, great energy, beautiful offense, and has the benefit of having been a B1G asst.

i also think if you’re gonna post in this thread, you need to post who you honestly wanted when Archie was hired, and whether or not you stand by that now. No hope options(Stevens) excluded. There were people who wanted Miller. There were people who wanted Gregg Marshall.  You gotta admit to that stuff. I wanted Brad Underwood. And I’d take him again in a second. 

I LOVE watching Greg McDermott basketball. Great call there. 
 

-Signed, the conductor of the Hire Archie Miller Train that is mulling retirement 

[Brass Cannon]

The chatter for firing Archie seems to me as high as it ever was for Crean.  Having exactly nothing to hang his hat on in 4 years will do that I suppose. 
 

Firing Archie this year is only a extra 3-4 Million over keeping him another year.  This buyout is not as difficult as it would seem.  Hoping the administration can recognize that Archie is a historically underperforming hire and kick him to the curb. 

[Brass Cannon]

And when we get a new coach let’s put aside this notion that it takes 4 years to evaluate them. That’s not remotely true in modern college basketball.  

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

9 hours ago, maharkn said:

Iowa

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Greatest set play of all time. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

The chatter for firing Archie seems to me as high as it ever was for Crean.  Having exactly nothing to hang his hat on in 4 years will do that I suppose. 
 

Firing Archie this year is only a extra 3-4 Million over keeping him another year.  This buyout is not as difficult as it would seem.  Hoping the administration can recognize that Archie is a historically underperforming hire and kick him to the curb. 

The only claim to fame Archie has is a couple Devonte Green hot streaks and beating Michigan State. 

[Brass Cannon]

16 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

The only claim to fame Archie has is a couple Devonte Green hot streaks and beating Michigan State. 

4-0 in a event that doesn’t look like it will exist after this year is probably his greatest achievement 

[JSHoosier]

3 hours ago, Demo said:

Yeah, he wasn’t one of my preferred guys, but I shouldn’t imply that I was down on the hire. I wasn’t. Struck me as a perfectly solid, if not terribly imaginative, choice. I didn’t picture a dead fail, and if someone says they did, I don’t really think I’d believe ‘em. But I didn’t realize just how antithetical his philosophy is to mine. He’s made IU almost worse than bad for me, he’s made them boring. 

I just want to see a winning team, beyond that I don't care if it's a track meet or played at a snail's pace.  I like that the defense is better under Miller, but he's failed miserably at addressing the flaw his teams tend to have (shooting) and I'm sick and tired of missing the easiest shot in the game so often.

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I just want to see a winning team, beyond that I don't care if it's a track meet or played at a snail's pace.  I like that the defense is better under Miller, but he's failed miserably at addressing the flaw his teams tend to have (shooting) and I'm sick and tired of missing the easiest shot in the game so often.

My guess is a fair amount of this board can hit FTs better than our best shooter.  I can hit 80% and I’m 34 with a bad knee and constantly sleep deprived 

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

My guess is a fair amount of this board can hit FTs better than our best shooter.  I can hit 80% and I’m 34 with a bad knee and constantly sleep deprived 

It's sad when our best FT shooter was a guard shooting 80%, that's not good for a guard.

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

It's sad when our best FT shooter was a guard shooting 80%, that's not good for a guard.

Yep. I just don’t understand. Why structure your offense to draw fouls if you aren’t going to hit the FTs.  There’s other advantages to drawing fouls I guess. But seems crazy to not make hitting the shots an emphasis.  Like buying an expensive safe then leaving it unlocked 

[cthomas]

I have no idea what the perception of the Indiana job is among other coaches. But I suspect that it would decline in desirability pretty quickly if we start tiring coaches after a year or two. Throw enough money at it and it might be worth the risk to some. I'm pretty sure the Coach Knight model won't work today. Truthfully, it wasn't working the last few years he was here. So, rather than just throw out names of candidates, I think we should start with the characteristics of the coach we want here. From reading through this thread, that's not an easy task. We have fans that just want to win, no matter what it takes. We have others who value integrity above all else and just about everything in between. There are so many moving parts involved in managing a program at this level that it seems almost impossible. Personally, I'd like a balance between offense and defense with a flexibility to adapt to game conditions on the fly. Though it goes against everything that I hold dear, it needs to be something that modern kids want to play. I have no idea who that coach is. I've never been for or against CAM. I always said his performance would determine his fate. Fair or not, I think time is beginning to run out.