Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: I think this list is pretty sad, and we can do far better. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Better than we have now.
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, ebridges24 said: this thread has generated 7 pages in 18 hours... Rightfully lillurk and JaybobHoosier 2
AKHoosier Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I have no faith Stevens or Donovan would ever be serious candidates, so unless we can throw the bank at Chris Beard, we'll be stuck taking a flier on an up-and-comer like Archie was. No thanks, I'd rather just go for the consistency model and stick with Archie to be honest. ALASKA HOOSIER, Toothdr, cthomas and 2 others 5
Jeff_Boy_Ardee Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I care how they do itI understand not wanting to turn in to a Calipari factory or anything to that extent, but if you think IU has done everything by the book over the 2 coaches youre mistaken. Eric Gordon got money, did not go to classes. Crean had assts tied to stuff, Thomas Bryant and noah vonleh were not 100% clean recruits probdbly more. He goes to georgia and get edwards right away? He wasnt clean either just not as dirty and obvious as others coaches I have no problem playing in the grey to get us on a level playing field. Do I want UK, Duke, UNC, UL, Kansas level stuff no. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
Brass Cannon Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Rightfully Gosh how dare you have expectations Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1
HinnyHoosier Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I think this list is pretty sad, and we can do far better. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appRight now, state of the program... it’s more like ‘could have done’ rather than ‘can do’.Unless the right people at IU make it rain, that’s the unfortunate reality. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
8bucks Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, mark1981 said: Is it just me but it seems like we have these conversations every 2-3 years It’s not our fault lillurk and JaybobHoosier 2
323SGrant Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 If Dakich is right, and that’s a big if. I’m new to the Forum, and a young IU fan. I don’t hold a grudge against anyone, but Dakich is one of my least favorite people. I think he makes brash statements just for attention. Especially when I listen to his radio show. Again I don’t hate the guy but I just take everything he says with a grain of salt. And he could be right. I’m not sure.I’m not a Dakich guy, but a few weeks ago on the radio he said he wanted IU to get Donovan. That was a long shot, however, I did agree with him on that recommendation.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app JaybobHoosier 1
LamarCheeks Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Billy Donovan is in the first of a four-year contract with the Bulls. He hasn't coached college ball since 2015. He no longer has to go into the homes of 15- and 16- and 17-year-old prima donnas and beg them to come play for him. I suspect he's done with college. I would guess the same is true of Stevens. kottke, woodenshoemanHoosierfan, cthomas and 4 others 7
LamarCheeks Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I'll throw out a name -- and it's just as wacko of an idea as some I've seen here: Thad Matta. When healthy, he was one of the best in the business. I don't know exactly what went wrong at OSU, but from what I gather, his health issues (back trouble, I think) limited what he was able to do recruiting -- so he was no longer getting the good players he used to. There's a very good chance I could be wrong on that, but I'm not positive. And I believe at one time (either while at Butler or Xavier), he said his dream job was to coach at IU. If he's healthy, he might be worth considering. He's 53, so he's not ancient -- and would think he has a good bit left in the tank. craigyv88, HoosierDYT, kottke and 3 others 6
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I'll throw out a name -- and it's just as wacko of an idea as some I've seen here: Thad Matta. When healthy, he was one of the best in the business. I don't know exactly what went wrong at OSU, but from what I gather, his health issues (back trouble, I think) limited what he was able to do recruiting -- so he was no longer getting the good players he used to. There's a very good chance I could be wrong on that, but I'm not positive. And I believe at one time (either while at Butler or Xavier), he said his dream job was to coach at IU. If he's healthy, he might be worth considering. He's 53, so he's not ancient -- and would think he has a good bit left in the tank. I didn't even think about him. I would be fine with thatSent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
schoosier Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said: I understand not wanting to turn in to a Calipari factory or anything to that extent, but if you think IU has done everything by the book over the 2 coaches youre mistaken. Eric Gordon got money, did not go to classes. Crean had assts tied to stuff, Thomas Bryant and noah vonleh were not 100% clean recruits probdbly more. He goes to georgia and get edwards right away? He wasnt clean either just not as dirty and obvious as others coaches I have no problem playing in the grey to get us on a level playing field. Do I want UK, Duke, UNC, UL, Kansas level stuff no. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app There’s no way to get top recruits unless they’re getting paid. Just look at the draft boards to know who is playing it. We just need our resources to play better.
craigyv88 Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, mdiu28 said: I actually think Donovan is more attainable than some will believe. I live in Chicago and am a Bulls fan. It's my guess he's been hired here to deal with a roster stacked with young talent - that's what Billy Donovan does. Once he's done that, he's gone (~2 years if I had to guess). It was my impression he was talked to during our last search but IU wasn't willing to pay his assistants top dollar. Whether or not that's true - who knows. Beilein I'd love as well. It's not a sexy name but the man wins in March. At the end of the day - that's all we really care about. That was my recollection on Donovan as well. I think we definitely got to a point where we were talking numbers back in 2017. He is automatically lumped into the longshot category with Stevens and for understandable reasons, but I could certainly envision him here before I could Stevens. My guess regarding how is time in Chicago will play out is probably similar to yours. I think Donovan is an upgrade over Jim Boylen but that's a tough situation with such a young team and no salary cap space, or at least not as of now. And I don't know that he would get or seek a third opportunity in the NBA if the Bulls job doesn't work out for him. I still think it's not likely that he becomes available in the near future but it's not unfathomable.
HoosierAloha Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 I'll throw out a name -- and it's just as wacko of an idea as some I've seen here: Thad Matta. When healthy, he was one of the best in the business. I don't know exactly what went wrong at OSU, but from what I gather, his health issues (back trouble, I think) limited what he was able to do recruiting -- so he was no longer getting the good players he used to. There's a very good chance I could be wrong on that, but I'm not positive. And I believe at one time (either while at Butler or Xavier), he said his dream job was to coach at IU. If he's healthy, he might be worth considering. He's 53, so he's not ancient -- and would think he has a good bit left in the tank. I believe he had assistants who were playing the game. I heard stories about Groce recruiting for him back when he was an assistant at O$U. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 I believe he had assistants who were playing the game. I heard stories about Groce recruiting for him back when he was an assistant at O$U. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appIt’s always the assistants unless your Sean Miller or ‘Strong A$$ Offer’ Wade. LolSent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha, JaybobHoosier and lillurk 3
323SGrant Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Billy Donovan is in the first of a four-year contract with the Bulls. He hasn't coached college ball since 2015. He no longer has to go into the homes of 15- and 16- and 17-year-old prima donnas and beg them to come play for him. I suspect he's done with college. I would guess the same is true of Stevens. No doubt. Dakich was saying he wanted Donovan, the 1st time and so did I, but as I mentioned it was a long shot even then. I’m not talking about now. No way he would come now and yes extremely low chance also to get Stevens.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
HoosierKnight Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Athletic and compliance has nothing to do with why we can’t shoot. Sampson and Crean had guys that could shoot. I didn’t say that had anything to do with us not being able to shoot. This is the coaching candidate thread, so the comment was in regards to hiring potential coaches...Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
8bucks Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, 323SGrant said: No doubt. Dakich was saying he wanted Donovan, the 1st time and so did I, but as I mentioned it was a long shot even then. I’m not talking about now. No way he would come now and yes extremely low chance also to get Stevens. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Dakich wanted Alford but said Donovan would definitely call him to talk about it johnsoniu 1
lillurk Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Someone up thread had a good list of the pro-Oats position mostly focused on his impressive work at Alabama. I’d add that he out-performed Bobby Hurley at *Buffalo* and he was a great HS coach less than a decade ago. He’s a Midwesterner and would have some regional HS and AAU connections. I wouldn’t go for Collins for a number of reasons, but I do tend to agree he could succeed at a place with more support. I’m just not interested in being the place that figures out if he will. 8bucks and JaybobHoosier 2
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