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15 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

A freshman Lyndon Jones put Smart on the bench, and Lyndon was just okay at IU.

Keith Smart averaged 13.2 points a game his last year IU(1987-88), good enough for 3rd in team scoring behind Dean Garrett and Jay Edwards. Lyndon Jones averaged just 4.9 points per game.  Lyndon was just OK and Smart was a lot better than Jones.

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12 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Keith Smart averaged 13.2 points a game his last year IU(1987-88), good enough for 3rd in team scoring behind Dean Garrett and Jay Edwards. Lyndon Jones averaged just 4.9 points per game.  Lyndon was just OK and Smart was a lot better than Jones.

The question wasn't whether Lyndon Jones was better than Keith Smart. He wasn't. My point was that for about 1/3 of Smart's senior season RMK Smart got benched. Xavier Johnson has been better than that.

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20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Smart got benched

Nobody scores 13 points a game from the bench. Jones may have started (some games) but Smart played at the key times and helped IU win games. It was not like today. Knight used the bench in creative ways. The adage that it doesn't matter who starts, only who finishes was applicable to that situation.

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

This tells me we are going to have at least two more transfers out. Bates and Geronimo is my guess. So far we know we would take Ledium, Timberlake, Sparks, plus a couple others

Howd the talks with battle go

Posted
17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This tells me we are going to have at least two more transfers out

There are five openings already with the four starters plus Duncomb. Casting the net wide doesn't suggest anything about additional openings. Competition for these players will be stiff.  Contacting players, even having visits, doesn't mean IU will land any of them (though hopefully the best among them will choose IU). IU should be contacting a large number of players even if the number of openings is five. It is hard to imagine many players will transfer to another school and not be able to start.

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14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This tells me we are going to have at least two more transfers out. Bates and Geronimo is my guess. So far we know we would take Ledium, Timberlake, Sparks, plus a couple others

how do you see Sparks fitting in assuming we have 4 to 6 total transfers?  Too early to tell I assume?  An energy guy off the bench for 8-10 minutes?  

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3 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

There are five openings already with the four starters plus Duncomb. Casting the net wide doesn't suggest anything about additional openings. Competition for these players will be stiff.  Contacting players, even having visits, doesn't mean IU will land any of them (though hopefully the best among them will choose IU). IU should be contacting a large number of players even if the number of openings is five. It is hard to imagine many players will transfer to another school and not be able to start.

I would agree we need a wider net but also remember there will be a lot more people entering the portal this week. 

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18 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

how do you see Sparks fitting in assuming we have 4 to 6 total transfers?  Too early to tell I assume?  An energy guy off the bench for 8-10 minutes?  

4-6 spots to fill, and probably closer to six means that Payton Sparks would be an excellent addition as someone who can compete for a rotation role imo.

I saw this video of him last year; not any on-court insight, but he seems like a young man who would represent us well:

 

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Whether you call them 'dogs' or not, I hope that in using the portal we bring in more guys like X (attitude / on-court demeanor) --and just look at the teams still standing in the tourney, we need athleticism, length, quickness and toughness. Yes, we also need a shooter or two, but get the wing upgraded and guys who rebound, block and get out on the run.

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My question with Graham or Sparks would be how they fit.  We don't really want to play 2 posts so would Sparks be okay coming off the bench? I'm assuming Reneau develops enough to start.

I mentioned Graham because we've reached out but I don't see it happening.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't think he's a starter but could be a nice bench piece. 

Ultimately, was Ball St. sort of a "JUCO" for him? Maybe he wants to swim with the bigger fish. I can't blame him.

Posted
19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This tells me we are going to have at least two more transfers out. Bates and Geronimo is my guess. So far we know we would take Ledium, Timberlake, Sparks, plus a couple others

Jamison Battle please. Anyone know what rabjohns reported on Woody's meeting with him?

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