NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[MikeRoberts]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

No one really fits that description yet.

There are others who will enter the portal who fit that description.

some of the ones that fit that description are based on projections by the IU staff, and may not make you happy at first. But they do fit that description.

Not many Brady Manek’s around but that transfer to UNC was their difference maker and IU could really use someone like that

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not many Brady Manek’s around but that transfer to UNC was their difference maker and IU could really use someone like that

Yes, in retrospect Manek was exactly that guy.

But when he transferred to UNC, so was Pete Nance.

[MikeRoberts]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Yes, in retrospect Manek was exactly that guy.

But when he transferred to UNC, so was Pete Nance.

Bacot and Reneau are similar players that need space, excel 1x1 when the floor is spaced. Bacot struggled without that and so will Reneau. Need to put him in a place to excel

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1. 2. 3. Graham Ike

Unless we have other options at the 5. We need 2 of them.

I kinda like Timberlake. Especially if Bates is gone.

I can’t make up my mind on Battle and Ledlum. I see positives and negatives.

I could get on board for Furst, TKR.


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[5fouls]

12 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The logical choices to leave Purdue or Newman, Furst, and Trey Kaufman.

I’m not much of a fan of Newman at all. Talented enough but game doesn’t seem to really click for him.

Furst is pretty active and quite good. I feel like in the right situation has the five he could be a winning player.

Kaufman is interesting to me also. He’s only had one year of college ball and his size and outside shot form are intriguing. However, he was mediocre at best his freshman year.

I could wrap my brain around either of their big guys.

Kaufman-Renn's advanced metrics are actually better than Reneau's

TKR

• PER - 17.0
• W/S Per 40 - .151
• Box +/- = 3.2
• ORating - 111.2
• DRating - 99.6

Malik

• PER - 16.7
• W/S Per 40 - .122
• Box +/- = 1.0
• ORating - 103.7
• DRating - 99.3

[BGleas]

25 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

1. 2. 3. Graham Ike

Unless we have other options at the 5. We need 2 of them.

I kinda like Timberlake. Especially if Bates is gone.

I can’t make up my mind on Battle and Ledlum. I see positives and negatives.

I could get on board for Furst, TKR.


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I'm not really worried about the 5, and really don't want a post-dominant 5 coming in that wants to start. 

We need athletes and multi-skilled ballers at the 1-4. These teams from the Sweet Sixteen on aren't built with post-dominant 5's and aren't running their offense through the post. Woodson has also said he doesn't really want that. 

Let's go with Reneau at the 5, go get him a quality, serviceable athletic backup that can rebound, block some shots and switch defensively. 

Then go fill out the roster with multi-skilled, athletic dawgs and ballers that just love to hoop. 

I want guys like Banks at the 4, and go get a guy in the Watford, Troy Williams, Miller (kid from Miami), Jalen Wilson or Pickett mold at the 4, and then find as many ballers and hoopers at the 1-3 as you can. 

I don't think either of the Furst or Kaufman-Renn rumors are true, but even if they are I would really only want those guys backing up Reneau. Not starting alongside him. 

[CSP]

51 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Who are the stretch 4s in the portal that would be good targets? 
 

good defender that can guard the post that can rebound and hit 3s? 

Ledlum and Battle

[IU - Kaulie]

Out of all the names I have seen so far I really want Girard.  Go get him and a couple of skilled athletic wings that can play and we are in business.

[rayl456]

51 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Kaufman-Renn's advanced metrics are actually better than Reneau's

TKR

• PER - 17.0
• W/S Per 40 - .151
• Box +/- = 3.2
• ORating - 111.2
• DRating - 99.6

Malik

• PER - 16.7
• W/S Per 40 - .122
• Box +/- = 1.0
• ORating - 103.7
• DRating - 99.3

Gibberish... pure and simple.  :)  Numbers don't tell the story 5fouls!  You, of ALL people, know that!

[5fouls]

Just now, rayl456 said:

Gibberish... pure and simple.  :)  Numbers don't tell the story 5fouls!  You, of ALL people, know that!

I think it's safe to say that, both players, playing behind All-Americans, have more to show us than they were able to do so this past season.  

[BGleas]

13 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Yep, since you still have to have a post defensively and Reneau fouls A LOT,  the "back-up" better be capable of 15-25mpg. 

Completely agree. You need a defensive minded backup there that can actually give you 15-20mpg. A guys with length and that offensively can pick and rim run/finish. But not a post guy offensively. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Any idea how woodson and battles conversation went 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Completely agree. You need a defensive minded backup there that can actually give you 15-20mpg. A guys with length and that offensively can pick and rim run/finish. But not a post guy offensively. 

We need more athletic guys at every position. Gunn fits, but forgot how to shoot or do much of anything else. Banks kinda fits but he still gives me baby giraffe images. Xavier fits if healthy. I thought Galloway fit until I watched him try to guard and dribble against the Miami guards.

I agree we need a good back up big. Probably need 2 of them. But then, Fouls/injuries. So, if they are back up quality and injuries happen you are tanked. You need roster flexibility and a coach that’s willing to play different guys for different matchups depending on the ability to impose your will.

We don’t have an identity yet. Trayce was our identity. Woody gets to build that, I guess. But all things being equal give me size, athleticism, and guys that have that dog in them.

My ideal 5, is like a Zeller or a Flory. Tall, quick. Can run the floor. Rebounds. Shot blocks, (although Zeller had short arms).

Reneau as our 5 is a scary thought and I love him. But he is none of those things besides being a competitor. He’s got nice touch. Above average dribbling. Etc.




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[BGleas]

14 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

We need more athletic guys at every position. Gunn fits, but forgot how to shoot or do much of anything else. Banks kinda fits but he still gives me baby giraffe images. Xavier fits if healthy. I thought Galloway fit until I watched him try to guard and dribble against the Miami guards.

I agree we need a good back up big. Probably need 2 of them. But then, Fouls/injuries. So, if they are back up quality and injuries happen you are tanked. You need roster flexibility and a coach that’s willing to play different guys for different matchups depending on the ability to impose your will.

We don’t have an identity yet. Trayce was our identity. Woody gets to build that, I guess. But all things being equal give me size, athleticism, and guys that have that dog in them.

My ideal 5, is like a Zeller or a Flory. Tall, quick. Can run the floor. Rebounds. Shot blocks, (although Zeller had short arms).

Reneau as our 5 is a scary thought and I love him. But he is none of those things besides being a competitor. He’s got nice touch. Above average dribbling. Etc.




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I think we're largely agreeing. I want multi-skilled athletes all over the court, especially the 1-4. Banks fits the profile of an ideal 4, but agree that he might not be ready yet and that we need to find someone ready to play that spot while Banks develops. 

I guess my point on needing bigs and Reneau is that I do not want a lineup of Reneau at the 4 and an even bigger, post players at the 5. That brings us right back to where we've been but with a drop-off because none of those guys will be as good as TJD. 

We need an athletic 5 as you described with multi-dimensional athletes and skilled players surrounding that big. For now, Reneau is what we have at that spot and he is very promising, albeit not the ideal profile. 

But, I do not want another big that takes back to having two post players in the lineup. That just doesn't fit the profile of teams going deep in March. Again, I think we're largely agreeing here in what we want the team to look like, just coming at it from a bit different angles. 

[Demo]

George Mason’s Josh Oduro entering the portal. Nice player. For any school looking for a Race Thompson-type blue collar below the rim 4, this is their guy. I assume he’s following English to Providence. 

[lillurk]

47 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I thought Galloway fit until I watched him try to guard and dribble against the Miami guards. 

I think he fits if he’s in a role like he would’ve had with X healthy.

[MikeRoberts]

Galloway is a 3 if we are putting players in a role they can excel at. Where he is more active, quicker than the player he matches up against he is great. Where he has to guard a quick point guard his best strengths are mitigated 

[Uspshoosier]

 

[Golfman25]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

The logical choices to leave Purdue are Newman, Furst, and Trey Kaufman.

I’m not much of a fan of Newman at all. Talented enough but game doesn’t seem to really click for him.

Furst is pretty active and quite good. I feel like in the right situation as the five he could be a winning player.

Kaufman is interesting to me also. He’s only had one year of college ball and his size and outside shot form are intriguing. However, he was mediocre at best his freshman year.

I could wrap my brain around either of their big guys.

I don’t know.  I question the judgment of anyone who attends Purdue.   :) 

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Any idea how woodson and battles conversation went 

Started with “Son . . . “.  :)