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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,263]

Likelihood of Brooks transferring to IU, ready set go

I don't think it will

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10 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

You also need to look  at the amount of games played because a lot of them did not play in every game.  box score of the 87 championship game.

	Basic Box Score Stats
Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
School Totals	200	30	62	.484	23	51	.451	7	11	.636	7	12	.583	6	25	31	20	7	3	11	17	74
Steve Alford	40	8	15	.533	1	5	.200	7	10	.700	0	0		1	2	3	5	2	0	3	2	23
Daryl Thomas	40	8	18	.444	8	18	.444	0	0		4	7	.571	1	6	7	1	0	0	3	1	20
Keith Smart	35	9	15	.600	9	14	.643	0	1	.000	3	4	.750	0	5	5	6	2	0	2	2	21
Dean Garrett	33	5	10	.500	5	10	.500	0	0		0	0		3	7	10	0	0	3	0	4	10
Rick Calloway	14	0	3	.000	0	3	.000	0	0		0	0		0	2	2	1	0	0	2	3	0
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Joe Hillman	20	0	1	.000	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		1	1	2	6	3	0	0	2	0
Steve Eyl	13	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	2	0
Todd Meier	4	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	.000	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kreigh Smith	1	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0

Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. On that IU team they had 7 guys play about every game and play more then 10 mpg. Baylor this year had a rotation of 8 guys playing 15+ mpg. Gonzaga had 6 guys playing 15+ mpg. We’ll probably have about 8-9 guys playing that much this upcoming year. 

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33 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Even if someone would leave the perception will be that they were pushed out to make room for Brooks.  I don't see why people worry so much about the 12th and 13th spot on the roster.  Look at the roster of our last championship team and see how many actually played any significant minutes.

Steve Alford	SR	G	6-2	22.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.6 Ast
Daryl Thomas	SR	F	6-7	15.7 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Dean Garrett		C	6-10	11.4 Pts, 8.5 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Keith Smart		G	6-1	11.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 3.2 Ast
Rick Calloway		F	6-6	12.6 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.6 Ast
Steve Eyl	JR	F	6-6	3.0 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Joe Hillman	SO	G	6-2	2.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Magnus Pelkowski	SO	C	6-10	3.8 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Kreigh Smith		G	6-7	1.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Tony Freeman		G	5-7	2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Brian Sloan	SO	F	6-8	2.1 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Todd Meier	SR	F	6-8	1.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Dave Minor		F	6-6	0.8 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Jeff Oliphant	FR	G	6-5	1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast

It's not just about guys minutes next year.  Meier was a 15 minute player his last two years.  Brian Sloan eventually became a 15 minute guy..  

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2 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

#1 — people that write off Galloway’s athleticism IMO are pigeon holing him.  He is a good athlete.

#2 — as a freshman and sophomore in high school — playing against much older players-/ he took a decent number of threes (near 200 I believe) and shot 37%.  The shot is fixable.

As far as #2 goes, I've wondered and asked about that but never really got an answer. In both his junior and senior seasons he injured his wrist. I wondered if that negatively affected his shot and it just hasn't been fixed yet or if he was always a bad shooter. From what you said, it sounds like the former instead of the latter. In that case, I really want him to stay. Even more than I already did. He has a really good motor, has great hustle and does a lot of small things that don't show up in the stat sheet, can drive and get to the rim, and has a great understanding of the game. If his shot can be fixed and his defense improved, he could be a very good player for IU.

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Sometimes you have see it with your own eyes or just waiting for the semester to end. I'm guessing after some open gyms when everyone is here in June you will see something

June is too late for them to receive the waiver for immediate eligibility so I doubt we'll see any transfers then. The deadline this year is June 1 and going forward will be May 1.

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Sometimes you have see it with your own eyes or just waiting for the semester to end. I'm guessing after some open gyms when everyone is here in June you will see something

I definitely see it as likely, but what would really bite is if they "make room" for Brooks with one of the fringe players and then someone bolts because of reduced PT. Just my own thoughts but RP, JH, JG seem like the guys that may get slapped in the face with the reality of PT loss and/or currently unrecognized need for a big increase in intensity and focus.

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1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

June is too late for them to receive the waiver for immediate eligibility so I doubt we'll see any transfers then. The deadline this year is June 1 and going forward will be May 1.

I thought it was July 1st this year

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3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I thought it was July 1st this year

Hmm, maybe I got the wrong "J" month in my head. I thought it was June but I could be wrong.

Edit: You're correct. July 1 it is. That seems like an awfully long time after the finish of the season and the passing of this rule. June 1 would've made more sense but the NCAA will be the NCAA.

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1 hour ago, ebridges24 said:

That is such a crock of sh!t, I hate hearing things like that.

It is.   The business world isn't any different.  Life lessons. 

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1 minute ago, JJacks said:

It is.   The business world isn't any different.  Life lessons. 

Believe me, I know it happens in the business world.

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I'm having a hard time thinking we will "make room" for K Brooks. The kid was a reserve last year on a less than marginal KY squad. He only shoots 21% from 3. I think Galloway shot better than that, or at least close to it. And I'd much rather have Galloway's hustle, BBall IQ, and passion for IU than Brooks. (which if I remember correctly was 0 when he chose KY)

I just don't see it. My 2¢.

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9 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Hmm, maybe I got the wrong "J" month in my head. I thought it was June but I could be wrong.

Edit: You're correct. July 1 it is. That seems like an awfully long time after the finish of the season and the passing of this rule. June 1 would've made more sense but the NCAA will be the NCAA.

So is May 1st correct moving forward?

 

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Akinjo to Baylor.    It will be interesting if he is immediately eligible.  He got a waiver last year to play right away so does he get to do it again or will he have to sit out.  

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1 minute ago, DWB said:

I'm having a hard time thinking we will "make room" for K Brooks. The kid was a reserve last year on a less than marginal KY squad. He only shoots 21% from 3. I think Galloway shot better than that, or at least close to it. And I'd much rather have Galloway's hustle, BBall IQ, and passion for IU than Brooks. (which if I remember correctly was 0 when he chose KY)

I just don't see it. My 2¢.

I've been on the Brooks train the last few days, but you could very well be right about that.  

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2 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

So is May 1st correct moving forward?

 

Yes.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-council-adopts-new-transfer-legislation#:~:text=All Division I student-athletes will have a one-time,The board meets April 28.

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Even if someone would leave the perception will be that they were pushed out to make room for Brooks. 

 

Yes, the optics would be bad. As I said earlier, if I remember correctly, some of the same people who are advocating creaning someone for Brooks, were the sane ones complaining about the perception of it happening under Crean and other coaches using that perception to tell recruits "it could happen to you if you go to IU". It boggles the mind.

 

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  Let me first point out that I’m pretty sure every player on this current roster is eligible next season and please don’t assume at this point what a player or players may do about the NBA...regardless we won’t have a 0 man class next year which means decisions will be made. To win a national championship and be a consistently great team tough decisions need to be made...even if that means making room for a better player...and I’m not even necessarily talking about Brooks. What happens if we’re in on a couple really good ‘22 prospects that want to play for CMW and IU? Are we going to say...”sorry, you’re a great player and would be a better option but we don’t want to hurt any feelings, we don’t have enough room for you and we’re worried that a few bloggers may think our optics will look bad to others.” That’s ridiculous and the answer to that question is a resounding NO. CMW will do what’s best for this team and choose players who he thinks give this team the best chance to bring us back to the Final Four. 

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46 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, the optics would be bad. As I said earlier, if I remember correctly, some of the same people who are advocating creaning someone for Brooks, were the sane ones complaining about the perception of it happening under Crean and other coaches using that perception to tell recruits "it could happen to you if you go to IU". It boggles the mind.

 

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Heck, you only have to go back a couple of weeks ago to see satisfaction and happiness that various players were staying.  Now, a couple of those players are apparently expendable. SMH

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49 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, the optics would be bad. As I said earlier, if I remember correctly, some of the same people who are advocating creaning someone for Brooks, were the sane ones complaining about the perception of it happening under Crean and other coaches using that perception to tell recruits "it could happen to you if you go to IU". It boggles the mind.

 

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There’s a difference between recruiting a kid, getting him to commit, and then pushing him out versus coming into a new job and pushing out an existing player you never recruited. Plus, things are different now with the portal than when Crean was here. It’s like NBA free agency only every player is on a one year contract. 

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IF Brooks is truly going into the portal and coming to IU, I could see a reason why he would not be doing so right away.  Still has the semester to finish out at Kentucky......kind of a tough situation to be at UK while finishing up and having people know he's transferring to IU.