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[FightFor6]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

He get many techs doing so? 

So is it about the behavior or how the referee interprets the behavior? You're not even arguing in good faith at this point.

[CSP]

Just now, FightFor6 said:

So is it about the behavior or how the referee interprets the behavior? You're not even arguing in good faith at this point.

Come again? If the official has to T you up for mouthing off... it's a problem. I've mentioned scenarios where I have ZERO problem if one of my players were to get a T. This video... that is the video of a punk. The like the exact OPPOSITE of what we want here. We want the guys that were getting in his head to begin with. 

[FrenchConnection]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

He get many techs doing so? 

In the 80's and 90's, NBA refs didn't T guys up for saying things. If they did, Bird and Jordan would have never finished a game. BTW, I not really arguing that what he did was OK. It was especially bad because with no fans in the arena everybody could hear every word.

[Hoosierfan222]

There’s no doubt about it, getting a tech hurts the team. 
 

that being said shooting 20% from three hurts the team and that’s our current starting point guard. I’ll take a rare technical foul over that all day, not even sure why that’s a discussion.

if talking trash makes him a punk then how on earth did you ever watch 90’s basketball?

[CSP]

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

In the 80's and 90's, NBA refs didn't T guys up for saying things. If they did, Bird and Jordan would have never finished a game. BTW, I not really arguing that what he did was OK. It was especially bad because with no fans in the arena everybody could hear every word.

I understand that about officials and it's a good point. Bird and Jordan would have never allowed their actions to effect their team in a negative way though. And certainly not on any sort of consistent basis. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Maybe it's different in college, but this whole discussion sent me to YouTube to watch Reggie Miller give Spike Lee the choke sign in '94. Also, Indiana's favorite son Larry Bird was a world-class trash talker. He would hit a shot and mouth off to the other team's coach. 

 

“Which one of your guys is getting second place today?” 
 

Nope, can’t have him. He talks too much trash! 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wearebasket.net/trash-talking-nba/amp/

Notable names: Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird. Someone better let them know that they’re cancers and couldn’t play on the IU basketball team. 

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

There’s no doubt about it, getting a tech hurts the team. 
 

that being said shooting 20% from three hurts the team and that’s our current starting point guard. I’ll take a rare technical foul over that all day, not even sure why that’s a discussion.

He shot a worse % from 3 every season he's been in college. He shot a worse % from 3 than what our entire team average was.... 

[Herotime]

Sooooo any transfer news?

[BGVille Hoosierfan]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

There’s no doubt about it, getting a tech hurts the team. 
 

that being said shooting 20% from three hurts the team and that’s our current starting point guard. I’ll take a rare technical foul over that all day, not even sure why that’s a discussion.

Exactly. The days of being passive and “classy” are over. At this point, I just want guys with fire who want to actually win and the way I see it, this kid is nowhere near a Bill Laimbeer type of punk so I’m completely fine here!

[Hoosierfan222]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

He shot a worse % from 3 every season he's been in college. He shot a worse % from 3 than what our entire team average was.... 

Kid shot 78 threes and hit just over 32% of them.

Our starting point guard shot 96 threes and hit 26% of them....

We’re comparing him to the team average why? Kid is a point guard, compare him to our point guard. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

“Which one of your guys is getting second place today?” 
 

Nope, can’t have him. He talks too much trash! 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wearebasket.net/trash-talking-nba/amp/

Notable names: Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird. Someone better let them know that they’re cancers and couldn’t play on the IU basketball team. 

Wow. Incredible how you haven't really read any response I've given you, yet... if this is still what you're spouting off about. 

[CSP]

Just now, Hoosierfan222 said:

Kid shot 78 threes and hit just over 32% of them.

Our starting point guard shot 96 threes and hit 26% of them....

We’re comparing him to the team average why? Kid is a point guard, compare him to our point guard. 

Please... kids a basketball player... and a solid one, no doubt. A shooter, he is not. Not even close. 

[Hoosierfan222]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Please... kids a basketball player... and a solid one, no doubt. A shooter, he is not. Not even close. 

No one said he’s a shooter, but he’s also a significantly better shooter than his current counterpart on our roster... 

Thats great if Armaan, Jerome, and Al brought our team average up.

Johnson can play on the floor WITH them. Phinisee is the guy he’d replace in our starting 5, and he’s a 26% three point shooter. 

 

 

[IUBBx5Banners]

19 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Oh wow. Just... no. That is not how you do things. Ever. 

I’m guessing you haven’t been watching Dame Time recently

[IUBBx5Banners]

Sorry I just think the line is very blurry as to what is playing with fire and yapping versus taunting. 

which is draymond? What about Emoni Bates? 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

No one said he’s a shooter, but he’s also a significantly better shooter than his current counterpart on our roster... 

Thats great if Armaan, Jerome, and Al brought our team average up.

Johnson can play on the floor WITH them. Phinisee is the guy he’d replace in our staring 5, and he’s a 26% three point shooter. 

 

 

And I am saying I would pass on him. There is someone within the 1,124 transfers in D1 that is a better option. 

[CSP]

Just now, IUBBx5Banners said:

Sorry I just think the line is very blurry as to what is playing with fire and yapping versus taunting. 

which is draymond? What about Emoni Bates? 

Neither have ANYTHING to do with this discussion though. This kid couldn't hold either of those jocks. 

[Hoosierfan222]

Just now, btownqb said:

And I am saying I would pass on him. There is someone within the 1,124 transfers in D1 that is a better option. 

Maybe there is, there are a ton of options out there. 
 

I am pretty damn sure he’s better than our current situation though, your reasons for him being a punk are bizarre.  
 

 

[8bucks]

I think it is safe to assume you guys won’t agree on Johnson. Cool why don’t we now let Woody decide. He will likely know far more about him than we can ever know. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Wow. Incredible how you haven't really read any response I've given you, yet... if this is still what you're spouting off about. 

Oh trust me, I’ve read your responses. It’s how I saw that you shifted the goal posts to “well if the refs have to T you up...” 

The ref’s decision to give someone a technical is completely independent of the player’s actions. The refs not giving Jordan a technical when he told Muggsy Bogues “shoot you ******* midget” doesn’t change what he said. You’re either ok with trash talk or you’re not. If the ref didn’t T Xavier Johnson up it doesn’t change his action at all.