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54 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Agree that TJD has handled everything perfectly. Hoping for the best for TJD! Excited to see an athletic big guy.

Seems like he could be like Vonleh as a freshman. Maybe not quite the rebounder that Vonleh was.


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Vonleh was one of the most impressive rebounders I’ve ever seen. He was a Roomba out there. 

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4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Agree that TJD has handled everything perfectly. Hoping for the best for TJD! Excited to see an athletic big guy.

Seems like he could be like Vonleh as a freshman. Maybe not quite the rebounder that Vonleh was.


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Vonleh was awesome on the boards. However, seemed limited on offense. Hope that's not the case with TJD. I think he can score 12 a game in year one. Offense has to come from someone right? 

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RE: Vonleh and TJD Discussion

This is where I don't understand some peoples perception of what we should be or shouldn't be recruiting.

Most everyone is saying TJD will be here multiple years and is not a OAD candidate but if TJD produces like many of you suggest or hope that he produces, I don't see him being here past 1 year. 

BUT, If he doesn't produce the way people are expecting or the way this team needs, then he will be labeled as a bust or a disappointment.

 

This goes into my question a few months back, is our perceptions or expectations of recruiting flawed from the start.

How can we conceivably suggest that we ONLY recruit 4 and 5 * players who theoretically are your 10, 11, 12, 13 players (if you have been doing this for multiple years, if there were no transfers, no early leaves) as freshmen. We don't expect players 10, 11, 12, 13 to be major impacts in general.   However, if those 4* & 5* players don't make an impact in their 1st year, they are labeled as busts or transfer candidates.  Not to mention how the player feels about the situation and become transfers.  However, if we recruit lower rated players that may fit better or take more time to develop but better chance at staying with the program, the fan base complains that coach can't recruit.  

Also, if our top players are leaving early due to Transfers or Professional Careers, then how do we ever become an experienced group with players who are upperclassmen.  

There seems to be a major no win situation for high star recruits and coaches recruiting to our fan base.

It is extremely difficult to have it both ways unless you have a history of being a GREAT coach and winning at a high level (AKA DUKE) or are doing something illegal (or both).

 

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RE: Vonleh and TJD Discussion
This is where I don't understand some peoples perception of what we should be or shouldn't be recruiting.
Most everyone is saying TJD will be here multiple years and is not a OAD candidate but if TJD produces like many of you suggest or hope that he produces, I don't see him being here past 1 year. 
BUT, If he doesn't produce the way people are expecting or the way this team needs, then he will be labeled as a bust or a disappointment.
 
This goes into my question a few months back, is our perceptions or expectations of recruiting flawed from the start.
How can we conceivably suggest that we ONLY recruit 4 and 5 * players who theoretically are your 10, 11, 12, 13 players (if you have been doing this for multiple years, if there were no transfers, no early leaves) as freshmen. We don't expect players 10, 11, 12, 13 to be major impacts in general.   However, if those 4* & 5* players don't make an impact in their 1st year, they are labeled as busts or transfer candidates.  Not to mention how the player feels about the situation and become transfers.  However, if we recruit lower rated players that may fit better or take more time to develop but better chance at staying with the program, the fan base complains that coach can't recruit.  
Also, if our top players are leaving early due to Transfers or Professional Careers, then how do we ever become an experienced group with players who are upperclassmen.  
There seems to be a major no win situation for high star recruits and coaches recruiting to our fan base.
It is extremely difficult to have it both ways unless you have a history of being a GREAT coach and winning at a high level (AKA DUKE) or are doing something illegal (or both).
 
Great post. IMO, there are 2 different camps on recruiting. The ones that only want 4 or 5 stars and anything less is terrible or the coach is reaching. The other is the one that wants multi year guys(including 3 stars) with a 5 star sprinkled in.

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RE: Vonleh and TJD Discussion

This is where I don't understand some peoples perception of what we should be or shouldn't be recruiting.

Most everyone is saying TJD will be here multiple years and is not a OAD candidate but if TJD produces like many of you suggest or hope that he produces, I don't see him being here past 1 year. 

BUT, If he doesn't produce the way people are expecting or the way this team needs, then he will be labeled as a bust or a disappointment.

 

This goes into my question a few months back, is our perceptions or expectations of recruiting flawed from the start.

How can we conceivably suggest that we ONLY recruit 4 and 5 * players who theoretically are your 10, 11, 12, 13 players (if you have been doing this for multiple years, if there were no transfers, no early leaves) as freshmen. We don't expect players 10, 11, 12, 13 to be major impacts in general.   However, if those 4* & 5* players don't make an impact in their 1st year, they are labeled as busts or transfer candidates.  Not to mention how the player feels about the situation and become transfers.  However, if we recruit lower rated players that may fit better or take more time to develop but better chance at staying with the program, the fan base complains that coach can't recruit.  

Also, if our top players are leaving early due to Transfers or Professional Careers, then how do we ever become an experienced group with players who are upperclassmen.  

There seems to be a major no win situation for high star recruits and coaches recruiting to our fan base.

It is extremely difficult to have it both ways unless you have a history of being a GREAT coach and winning at a high level (AKA DUKE) or are doing something illegal (or both).

 

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Kansas minus the cheating. Villanova lately. What Duke used to be 5-10 years ago.

There are a bunch of other examples out there that get 4 stars that don’t try to jump immediately to the NBA.

5 stars though are usually 1 year guys or some 2 year guys. Anything more than that is generally considered a bust for 5 stars.


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2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Juwan's thoughts on the improvement he expects to see from Damezi this season.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/indiana-basketball-juwan-morgan-sees-a-sophomore-jump-for-damezi-anderson/?fbclid=IwAR3JdlOO7tLGRXyqQcugCRuWuFxOlCB2X_YwMg4pAlbUWk8OQ5uinAoSLT0

Not being snarky when I say that I’m kind of shocked that Anderson had 8 assists for the year. Seem to remember a nice interior feed against Arkansas. Otherwise, nothing.

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After all the B$Ming from Justin Smith and his father I’m a little shocked they didn’t make a move. I’m sure the sit a year thing weighs in. I bet he’s set to graduate this year and will grad transfer if this year isn’t what he hopes.

To me he was our biggest disappointment by a landslide. Romeo didn’t have the season we hoped but he was serviceable. I think Romeo hurt chemistry a bit just by being Romeo and the attention he attracted.

But Smith save for 2 or 3 games was a really bad player. Bad shooting from all 3 levels but the free throw adventures told me the most. I don’t know what is going on with him. He’s smart, yet he made awful decisions regularly.

I’m rooting for him because IF he figures it out he would be fun player to watch but I have no idea how Archie fixes it. Decision making, instincts, shot making on all levels, and heck even defensive ability which should be his real calling card.

Wishing and praying.


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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

After all the B$Ming from Justin Smith and his father I’m a little shocked they didn’t make a move. I’m sure the sit a year thing weighs in. I bet he’s set to graduate this year and will grad transfer if this year isn’t what he hopes.

To me he was our biggest disappointment by a landslide. Romeo didn’t have the season we hoped but he was serviceable. I think Romeo hurt chemistry a bit just by being Romeo and the attention he attracted.

But Smith save for 2 or 3 games was a really bad player. Bad shooting from all 3 levels but the free throw adventures told me the most. I don’t know what is going on with him. He’s smart, yet he made awful decisions regularly.

I’m rooting for him because IF he figures it out he would be fun player to watch but I have no idea how Archie fixes it. Decision making, instincts, shot making on all levels, and heck even defensive ability which should be his real calling card.

Wishing and praying.


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I'm with you here. Really stunned to see him back, at this point we just hope he figures it all out, starting with better overall effort.

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