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I’m still not sure what the condition is/was but it’s good to see him lifting heavy. When I first took blood thinners they wouldn’t allow me to lift for fear of bruising. Times and medicines have changed but that appears to be a good sign.


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FWIW I listen to the Hoosier report on am1450 during lunch. A few months ago Matt denison was talking with Greg Doyle and he said that Jerome had compartment syndrome from a previous leg injury.

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1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:


In a way, good for them. But this is kinda an abuse of the system. Neither of these guys and also green, are nba material right now.

If these three enter into the process what stops everyone from doing it and diluting the process/system


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They want an evaluation to know what to work on. Can you blame them?

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They want an evaluation to know what to work on. Can you blame them?

No. I don’t blame them, they are just going through a process offered to them but there are 1,000 players in college as talented as these three and the nba cannot focus/care about them. It’s actually a retraction from the top 100 that actually have a chance. There just isn’t enough time nor eyeballs to do everyone justice

 

What feedback are they actually expecting? None of them them are close/on the cusp that one little thing will put them over the top. They all need to improve a ton and any quality coach like Archie can guide them on those things

 

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No. I don’t blame them, they are just going through a process offered to them but there are 1,000 players in college as talented as these three and the nba cannot focus/care about them. It’s actually a retraction from the top 100 that actually have a chance. There just isn’t enough time nor eyeballs to do everyone justice
 
What feedback are they actually expecting? None of them them are close/on the cusp that one little thing will put them over the top. They all need to improve a ton and any quality coach like Archie can guide them on those things
 
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I agree with you. Not the kids fault, but whoever provides the feedback to these kids has to get annoyed with the amount of players declaring for the draft


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1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

No. I don’t blame them, they are just going through a process offered to them but there are 1,000 players in college as talented as these three and the nba cannot focus/care about them. It’s actually a retraction from the top 100 that actually have a chance. There just isn’t enough time nor eyeballs to do everyone justice

 

What feedback are they actually expecting? None of them them are close/on the cusp that one little thing will put them over the top. They all need to improve a ton and any quality coach like Archie can guide them on those things

 

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Disagree about them all being far away. Devonte if he could improve his decision making and be good Devonte consistently would be ready. So while certainly not little but one thing. 

And maybe Al and Justin want to know what to prioritize first and foremost knowing they have multiple issues. It sometimes if very useful to be told your priorities and not just your tasks. 

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2 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

No. I don’t blame them, they are just going through a process offered to them but there are 1,000 players in college as talented as these three and the nba cannot focus/care about them. It’s actually a retraction from the top 100 that actually have a chance. There just isn’t enough time nor eyeballs to do everyone justice

 

What feedback are they actually expecting? None of them them are close/on the cusp that one little thing will put them over the top. They all need to improve a ton and any quality coach like Archie can guide them on those things

 

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Excuse me, but where in the rule does it say anything about top 100 players only?

And you had better believe the NBA casts a much, much, much broader net to find their players than the top 100 NCAA and international players. The idea that scouts find this process annoying doesn't reflect any conversation I've ever had with a scout.

It's also ridiculous to think that they're going to get the same advice from Archie that they'd get from the league just because we know Archie is a quality coach. They might, they might not. Put a quality player in front of ten quality coaches and they are going to have some different opinions as coaching philosophies obviously vary. Boeheim, a quality coach, thought Michael Carter-Williams wasn't ready for the NBA... Carter-Williams is in his 7th season in the league now. So there's some evidence that a quality coach might disagree with other quality coaching assessments, if you needed any.

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I'm all for players being able to declare for the draft, get evaluated and then return to school if they so desire. But I still think the whole process needs to be expedited. I'm guessing coaches have a pretty decent idea of who will return and who won't, but May 29 (this year's deadline for pulling out of the draft) seems awfully late to be juggling puzzle pieces and figuring out what your roster will look like going forward.

 

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7 hours ago, Aeggie said:

Excuse me, but where in the rule does it say anything about top 100 players only?

And you had better believe the NBA casts a much, much, much broader net to find their players than the top 100 NCAA and international players. The idea that scouts find this process annoying doesn't reflect any conversation I've ever had with a scout.

It's also ridiculous to think that they're going to get the same advice from Archie that they'd get from the league just because we know Archie is a quality coach. They might, they might not. Put a quality player in front of ten quality coaches and they are going to have some different opinions as coaching philosophies obviously vary. Boeheim, a quality coach, thought Michael Carter-Williams wasn't ready for the NBA... Carter-Williams is in his 7th season in the league now. So there's some evidence that a quality coach might disagree with other quality coaching assessments, if you needed any.

Boeheim has always appeared to me to be a selfish, self-serving SOB! That’s why he told MCW he wasn’t ready.

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I think it’s a good thing that they declare as others have stated. I’ll take it one further for Justin Smith’s sake....maybe he will be told some similar truths about his game that Archie and the staff have been preaching and he will finally understand what needs to be done. Then he will come in with a chip on his shoulder and reach some of his potential. My dream lol


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9 minutes ago, Hoosier116 said:

I think it’s a good thing that they declare as others have stated. I’ll take it one further for Justin Smith’s sake....maybe he will be told some similar truths about his game that Archie and the staff have been preaching and he will finally understand what needs to be done. Then he will come in with a chip on his shoulder and reach some of his potential. My dream lol


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Good point maybe Archie and staff encouraged it in the hopes this is a wake up call

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17 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

MCW is also widely regarded as a bust, so probably not the best example to use. 

He didn't live up to his draft position but he has been in the league for seven years which is well over the average length of an NBA career. He certainly didn't leave college too early, staying wasn't going to make him anymore capable of becoming an NBA all-star. He's just not special enough physically at that level. 

He might "only" make 20 or 30 million in his career but I know I wouldn't consider that a failure, personally. 

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