Team Chemistry Issues?

[Str8Hoosiers]

2 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Thanks Str8. What was confusing me was the midseason transfer or dropout. I assumed that applied to end of season transfers as well. Silly me expecting the NCAA to make something clear and sensical.

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Nope, that is why we have to keep Green & Smith and keep them happy until then... at least happy enough to not quit the team or their classes.

There has to be a point when players can leave without repercussion simply because of graduating players. Schools shouldn't be (and aren't) dinged for a player not coming back once they have graduated and/or used up their eligibility, that is why they do the mid-season and not end of season transfers etc.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, bigrod said:

On a different subject, I was listening to POTB this morning. They had Rick Bozich on and he said he was talking to an NBA scout about Langford. He asked the scout if Lagford had hurt himself by coming to Indiana. The scout's response was something like (I'm paraphrasing from memory), No, not at all. He is playing with a G-league player and 3 other players who are likely reserves on most other B1G teams.

Ouch. If that's the case, there's a ways to go...

Here's the whole segment.

Has Romeo Langford held his place in the Lottery?

SCOUT ONE: “He’s still a lottery pick because the overall talent is there. You can see it. He can score, and people are always going to like that. The final piece that people will be looking at is his shooting, but he’s gotten better with that this season.”

SCOUT TWO: “I like Romeo. To me, Romeo is a top-five pick. He will go no later than No. 8.

“I know some people have questioned him because of the season that Indiana is having, but look at who he is playing with.

“They have one guy (Juwan Morgan) who will probably play in the G-League. The rest of those guys would be substitutes coming off the bench on the good teams in the Big Ten. It’s just not a very talented team.

“The first game I scouted Indiana in person was at Duke, and Romeo was one of the few guys who could even function in the first half. The rest of the guys could not function until the game was already over. The stage was too big.

“Romeo has an NBA skill set. What can’t he do? He can drive. He can finish around the basket. He’s a very smooth and balanced player.

“Does he need to improve his shot? Yes. Does he need to get stronger? Yes — so do nine out every 10 guys coming out of college basketball. Romeo will be fine.”

[johnsoniu]

15 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

If the cancers from this team are gone next year and they were ones who treated Romeo like crap...any chance he stays next year to play with TJD, Armaan, and Keion (if he comes) and have a more enjoyable, successful experience? 

No, because we aren't allowed to have nice things anymore.

[DChoosier]

30 minutes ago, ray said:

UNC basketball won a national championship shortly after multiple athletes from multiple sports were caught red-handed with transcripts (in their red hands) listing nonexistent courses.

Maybe I just don’t understand the whole APR thing either, bigrod? 

 

Those are two separate issues.

APR has to do with kids taking and getting decent grades in their classes. 

The NCAA, however, decided that the University of No Classes athletes must have the required minimum grade point averages but are exempt from actually taking real classes. I will puke if they win another championship this year.

[8bucks]

If the cancers from this team are gone next year and they were ones who treated Romeo like crap...any chance he stays next year to play with TJD, Armaan, and Keion (if he comes) and have a more enjoyable, successful experience? 

Wait. I missed something but what is the story with people treating Romeo badly?


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[IU Hoosier41]

1 hour ago, IUrocker said:

If the cancers from this team are gone next year and they were ones who treated Romeo like crap...any chance he stays next year to play with TJD, Armaan, and Keion (if he comes) and have a more enjoyable, successful experience? 

I’d put this at 0.1% chance he comes back.  Going to be a top 10 pick, potentially top 5.  While he could develop, he’d be an idiot to risk injury for another year.   He’ll enjoy his experience next year being a millionaire :)

[HoosierRobbie]

I’d put this at 0.1% chance he comes back.  Going to be a top 10 pick, potentially top 5.  While he could develop, he’d be an idiot to risk injury for another year.   He’ll enjoy his experience next year being a millionaire :)

No doubt romeo is gone, any chance of him coming back probably ended with zions injury.


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[Uspshoosier]

What season would the post season ban have been applied to? Or just the next time we actually made it?


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This year


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[MikeRoberts]

so what I am hearing is this can be put squarely on the shoulders of Fred Glass. How did he allow Crean to do this to the program for 3 straight years? Crean and Glass buried us then and still are if this is indeed a driving factor in our woes

 

 

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[IUrocker]

Obviously people think Crean had it way worse when he took the IU job when Archie did based off talent level...Archie had more talent than Crean had, yada yada, which is true. Well at least Crean had players that wanted to be there and played hard for their coach. Even though Crean had less talent, what Archie seems to be going through with his hands being tied with who he could and couldn’t have on the team and dealing with their attitudes and lack of effort can be just as bad. To think if Archie was able to have things how he wanted it when he got here by getting rid of a handful of guys he didn’t see fit right off the bat, things would obviously be way different than they are now and we most likely wouldn’t be dealing with any of the lack of effort levels and attitudes we are now. Heck I feel just as bad for Archie than I did for Crean when he first took over the program.....and then to realize Crean and Glass may have f’ed up the APR so bad that Archie had to deal with having his hands tied and keep players around that probably didn’t want to be there and since they had to stay, affecting their attitudes towards the new coach, makes me feel MORE sorry for Archie. This roster management really is probably a nightmare scenario for Archie knowing he’s got a bunch of kids he calls quiet and lack leadership, etc. These first couple years have been a do what you can with what you’ve got type of thing, and this year really endes up being bad because the negative attitudes really came out into the open. Props to Archie for keeping calm and dealing with it like a professional until the end of the season. 

[Capt. Crimson]

13 hours ago, HoosierRobbie said:

No doubt romeo is gone, any chance of him coming back probably ended with zions injury.


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100% agree with this. These elite dudes... really makes so sense for them to play college ball and risk it all for nothing. I think we just saw the end of one and done with that injury. 

[IU Hardcore]

On 2/20/2019 at 5:16 PM, arobbins23 said:

13:04 mark for those who want to watch it. It's very obvious. 100 percent being an a**hole.

I deleted my copy (0n Xfinity).

Is there somewhere I can find a copy?

[Alford Bailey]

14 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

so what I am hearing is this can be put squarely on the shoulders of Fred Glass. How did he allow Crean to do this to the program for 3 straight years? Crean and Glass buried us then and still are if this is indeed a driving factor in our woes

 

 

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I thought it was all Archie's fault??

[IU Hoosier41]

13 hours ago, IU Hardcore said:

I deleted my copy (0n Xfinity).

Is there somewhere I can find a copy?

It’s in this thread. Just go back a couple pages 

[IU Hoosier41]

Smith’s dad after the game after seeing his son benched the whole second half  

 

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, IU Hoosier41 said:

Smith’s dad after the game after seeing his son benched the whole second half  

 

 

Adios Justin; won’t be missed.

 

[Bailey7878]

I do not but IMO I just don't see him being this level of a player. I know it's too soon and others don't like me saying it but I think he was a bad evaluation on the coaches part. 

I totally agree.

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[Bailey7878]

 
Adios Justin; won’t be missed.
 

He gone probably to georgia.

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[Bowhunter]

He gone probably to georgia.

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Be the perfect place for him. Turnovers and playing fast! 🤭


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Free Jake!!

[Bowhunter]

Smith’s dad after the game after seeing his son benched the whole second half  
 

Now sir.. the reason we almost win this game is because your son was on the bench. Now let’s put Green there next game along side of him and I bet we win.


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Free Jake!!