(2019) SG Armaan Franklin to IU

[ap2345]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

He’s a 3 star combo guard. If we use a scholarship on him we may be in a situation where we need 2 guards who are ready to contribute from day 1 in 2020. 

You're right according to rivals and 247 he is 3 star. ESPN has him as a 4 star yes I know they aren't as accurate so whatever. My point is he seems more pg to me than the other guards do. Newman no, Bouknight no, Ramsey no, Harris maybe. I say he's a pg because he isn't the scorer that some of the other recruits are and he is more of a facilitator. The only reason he is listed as a combo guard imo is because he is 6'4 or 6'5. 

[Brass Cannon]

15 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

You're right according to rivals and 247 he is 3 star. ESPN has him as a 4 star yes I know they aren't as accurate so whatever. My point is he seems more pg to me than the other guards do. Newman no, Bouknight no, Ramsey no, Harris maybe. I say he's a pg because he isn't the scorer that some of the other recruits are and he is more of a facilitator. The only reason he is listed as a combo guard imo is because he is 6'4 or 6'5. 

Regardless his position he doesnt appear ready to contribute his freshmen year. The reason he is falling in rankings is the players around him are developing faster. 

If he weren’t ready by sophomore year we would be in for a rough year if we didn’t land ready to go talent that year. 

Im not opposed to taking 3 stars. I’m very wary of taking a 3 star that is falling versus one that is rising. 

[BGleas]

41 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

You're right according to rivals and 247 he is 3 star. ESPN has him as a 4 star yes I know they aren't as accurate so whatever. My point is he seems more pg to me than the other guards do. Newman no, Bouknight no, Ramsey no, Harris maybe. I say he's a pg because he isn't the scorer that some of the other recruits are and he is more of a facilitator. The only reason he is listed as a combo guard imo is because he is 6'4 or 6'5. 

I’d argue we have a greater need for a scoring/shooting guard in this class, which is why I’d rather have Bouknight or Newman. Assuming Romeo leaves, we’ll need another shooter. Between Phinisee, Green and Durham, the ball handling/pg duties will be covered. 

[IUrocker]

Ahhh, the feeling of thinking it's not good enough to get 3 star recruits and knowing now that we expect way better. This feeling is so much more exciting than the feeling of "ok good, at least he's a 3 star". This season and beyond can't get here soon enough. I've already scheduled handfuls of my vacation days off work to make sure i'm home to watch games that fell on work nights, haha

[ap2345]

45 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Regardless his position he doesnt appear ready to contribute his freshmen year. The reason he is falling in rankings is the players around him are developing faster. 

If he weren’t ready by sophomore year we would be in for a rough year if we didn’t land ready to go talent that year. 

Im not opposed to taking 3 stars. I’m very wary of taking a 3 star that is falling versus one that is rising. 

I understand your position I personally think we will end up taking 2 guards, 1 wing, and 1 big. Sorry to all the Brooks will be a 2 guard people but he is a wing and always will be a wing so with that I think we could take Franklin and still be okay but that's for CAM and company to decide. 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, ap2345 said:

I understand your position I personally think we will end up taking 2 guards, 1 wing, and 1 big. Sorry to all the Brooks will be a 2 guard people but he is a wing and always will be a wing so with that I think we could take Franklin and still be okay but that's for CAM and company to decide. 

Literally nothing about our recruiting makes it look like we are taking 2 guards unless you count Brooks as one of them. 

[ap2345]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Literally nothing about our recruiting makes it look like we are taking 2 guards unless you count Brooks as one of them. 

Just my gut. Which my gut also said we would get Romeo the day CAM was introduced which I posted on here. I get what you're saying but I also know first hand that recruiting is very fluid thing that changes all the time. We will see come April what the class looks like for sure. 

[yogisballin]

From what I’ve seen, I like him better than Newman. But that’s just me


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[MikeRoberts]

Literally nothing about our recruiting makes it look like we are taking 2 guards unless you count Brooks as one of them. 

You do though, so that would make two


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[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You do though, so that would make two


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I do indeed. But he specifically said 2 guards in addition to Brooks

[AKHoosier]

If we had Carton, I'd say heck yeah we can take Franklin and I'd be stoked about it.  I love the idea of pairing an elite 5* PG with an in-state developing guard prospect that would contribute heavily his junior and senior years.

But we don't, so I'm not sure we take a guard just to take someone.  Hit the grad transfer market for someone top notch who wants to contribute right away, or swing for the fences on a Midwest 5* guy in the 2020 class.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Franklin does not equal Carton. Will not be too thrilled if OSU out recruits us overall in 19. That OSU class is poised to be nasty.

Franklin doesn't do much for me. I think he could be a solid addition but he isn't a bragging right. If we get him, I'm cool with it.

But with teams getting guys like Tre Mann, Cole Anthony, Carton et al, we will need our impact guys to come from other positions.


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[Brass Cannon]

On August 10, 2018 at 3:45 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

That seems to be the selling point.

I imagine them Selling Juwans spot to TJD and Romeo’s spot to Brooks.

I always have envisioned recruiting like this. It’s most logical and easiest to compartmentalize.

People say we can sell Romeo’s spot to a guard , but it is my belief that is being sold to Brooks.

Any guard we get will be competing with Phinisee, Durham, and a senior Green. If Green, Durham, and Phinisee improve as expected we don’t need a star over them. It’s much harder to sell.

NOW, if we don’t get Brooks or some other Star in the Romeo spot then it is a major recruiting mishap. Super easy sell imo.

Need to replace 2 starters and add depth imo.

So, are we struggling with guards? Yep. Will it matter in the end? Depends on The other spots we fill.


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Looks like it's being sold to Ramsey. 

“Romeo will be in, and everyone in America knows he will be gone, and I could be the next coming in behind.”

from thedailyhoosier story on Ramsey 

[pumpfake]

On 8/26/2018 at 9:39 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Franklin does not equal Carton. Will not be too thrilled if OSU out recruits us overall in 19. That OSU class is poised to be nasty.

Franklin doesn't do much for me. I think he could be a solid addition but he isn't a bragging right. If we get him, I'm cool with it.

But with teams getting guys like Tre Mann, Cole Anthony, Carton et al, we will need our impact guys to come from other positions.


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This is where roster building is crucial.  A lot of fans like the idea of adding both potential one and dones with solid, 3-4 year players (myself included).  I guess the trick is bringing in guys that may not be tempted to leave after a season or two, but still can contribute for at least 3 years.  It will be interesting to watch it take shape.

[akinnaird24]

Sounds like this decision could be made pretty soon. Could go either way between IU or PU


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[Hoosier Guy]

This would be interesting if IU is the choice

[Chris007]

19 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

This would be interesting if IU is the choice

Sounds like we might be the lean for now but probably still 55-45

[Hoosier Guy]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Sounds like we might be the lean for now but probably still 55-45

Would this be curtains for Newman?

[Chris007]

Just now, Hoosier Guy said:

Would this be curtains for Newman?

I don't think on IU side it would be but from Newman I think it would be

[Stuhoo]

 

Seems like TJD and Franklin are pretty tight. TJD even said so in a social media post. Certainly not a "package deal", but a solid move to help cement TJD's route to IU.

Another thing I like about Franklin? Listen to him being interviewed and what coaches say about him; a high-character young man to his very core.