Welcome Coach Miller

[Maynard]

1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

Reason archie was my favorite choice after stevens donovan is he is young and has major upside. He looks like hw has alot of energy ans i believe he will be successful and have many great years at iu. Cant wait for October lol

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Let me preface this by saying that I will support Archie and I hope that he does well.  I am glad that Crean is gone.  But I have to ask, what gives Archie more "upside" than mid major guys will equal or better resumes?  With a little looking, one could find 8-10 guys who would fit into that category.  Tom Crean had a lot of energy too.  I understand that people want to be either excited or pissed.  I just don't understand the unquantifiable "upside" that people keep touting.  It seems to me that people basically, "have a good feeling about this" and that is fine, just not a logic based argument.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Based on how this went down I can see why Glass said no search firm then hired a search firm.

I think Glass thought he would get his 1st or 2nd choice. (Donovan or Alford is my guess). When that didn't happen he had to change his approach.




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If that's true, I'd call it a lose/win.  LOL

[recker222000]

Very disappointing... but i built myself up for Billy.

He's a lateral move at the minimum. Great potential but I'm not sure he's winning the 6th banner for us.

Someone convince me..


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So who should we of hired since donvan said no.

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[recker222000]

So, where do you think Knight, Coach K, Beilein, and Donovan came from? 

I believe matta and sean miller came from mid majors or maybe i missed something.

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[ccgeneral]

2 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Well Archie made $1.2 MM in 2014 and received a raise in 2016 so I'm not sure how your math works out.

His math may be off but he sure as hell ain't worth more then Izzo.

[the possum]

First I want to say Congrats to Coach Miller. I am sure as a young coach you and your family could not be more excited then you are right at this moment. As a long time fan I wish you the best. 

Now lets get to good old Fred. Did he lie? well just a little. What is Millers connection to Indiana high school coaches? did Glass reach out to them as he said he would? Sure would be nice if he had about 10 to 15 high school coaches are at the presser that he reached out too. The proven winner and deep runs at an elite level, not seeing that one here. Does he have any in state connections? 

I have seen this posted already and I agree the program is not the destination or the elite job we want it to be. Now it could be, but we still have the wrong leadership in charge.The powers to be made a choice long ago to destroy the program to make it a more worldly accepted place for the elites to gather and feel good about doing what is good to the eye. 

So until Coach Miller wins not one, but two national titles IU will not be elite again. You have to have high level success on a permanent basis to be considered elite and right now we are just a has been. I wish Coach all the luck in the world and I hope he brings the program back before I kick the bucket.  

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

My stance is disappointment because of expectations. Archie COULD be very good for us. If he can recruit anything like his brother I'll be ecstatic about our chances.

 

Like rebel said, I was just hoping our resources and status could get us our top target (I bet glass was too).

Glass said Archie was on his short list from the beginning, meaning he was not our top choice, clearly.

 

I'm excited to see IU under different direction than Crean but I just hoped we would making a statement hire with much less uncertainty.

 

His first recruiting cycle and season will be telling.

 

 

 

 

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Who was your top target...one name

[GoIU8]

Does anyone remember how Marquette fans were after losing Crean? I went on a Dayton message board and they are completely devastated this happened. I don't remember that happening with Crean.

[Adillac]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

Don't know what this means. ... I think Blackmon's gone, regardless. And I can't say I know the dynamic of this team, but I think there's a reason we were champs in 16 and chumps in 17. Recall how much better we got without JBJ last season?

couldn't care less what JBJ thinks. 

[Dalton26]

Damn I suck. How do I save it on mobile?

Should just be able to hold down on the picture and the option pops up.

[Stuhoo]

My text convo with a friend who is a Dayton grad and a diehard fan:
Me: "Sorry, brother."
Him: "F..k you."
Him: "I don't know what the f..k we're gonna do now."
Me: "I hear Tom Crean is available."
Him: "F..k you."

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Well, now we get to see how playing/coaching in the A-10 translates into the Big Ten.  SUPER amused about all the Donovan chatter, that was just comical.  Archie was probably the best recruiter available and that does count for a lot. Not overly sold on the x's and o's he brings, but, better than what we had.  I think the minimum requirement for an IU Basketball Coach is to make the NCAA tourney every year, I think Archie can accomplish that.  I say Welcome to Coach Miller and now the "silly" offseason starts....be interesting to see what kind of Roster he ends up with for year one.  I hope the Boosters who forced this change give him the leeway he is going to need for a few years.

[HoosierX]

4 minutes ago, ccgeneral said:

His math may be off but he sure as hell ain't worth more then Izzo.

And Timofey Mozgov isn't worth more than Steph Curry. Contracts aren't renegotiated every year.

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2 minutes ago, Adillac said:

couldn't care less what JBJ thinks. 

I wouldn't worry much about any of the current rostered players.  Probably the most selfish, lowest Basketball IQ group to ever wear IU uniforms.  Miller will need a few years to work through the roster

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

His math may be off but he sure as hell ain't worth more then Izzo.

And if Izzo was to leave or get an extension he would surpass those numbers. Just like every year in sports. The money changes year in year out.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Are we still not understanding what search firms do?

I do understand what they do. Multiple things they do.

Fred Glass explicitly said no search firm during his PC. This changed a few days later.

Makes complete sense when option 1 didn't go the way he thought, more "talks" needed done.

I'm convinced Archie wasn't option 1. Glass said "he was on the short list early on". He could have said we got our guy or many other ways of phrasing it.


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[doyle1984]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but watch Dane Fife go to Dayton...Circle of life!


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Just now, doyle1984 said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but watch Dane Fife go to Dayton...Circle of life!


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would be A GREAT HIRE for Dayton

[FortWayneHoosier]

Damn I suck. How do I save it on mobile?

Check your pm


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[Milldawg12]

Archie is under 40 years old and universally regarded as a budding superstar amongst his peers. Honestly ask yourself this question: Who has a higher ceiling in regards to recruiting? Gregg Marshall or Archie Miller.? [/quote
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Archie all the way!!

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