TOM CREAN FIRED

[HoosierAloha]

Wish this would happen before it turns into a circus.


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Before it turns into a circus? It's not a circus already?!

[HoosierD]

If Archie went to NC State, my fav choices would be down to Bennett, Stevens, Donovan, and Marshall - none of which I see coming here this year.  God, please don't spite us with another year of CTC.

On the same CBS Sports: Eye on College Basketball Podcast that was discussed earlier in this thread, Gary Parrish said he doesn't believe Archie will take the NC State job. He said even though it makes sense from the alma mater standpoint, Archie isn't taking anything but an A level job at this point.

[JSHoosier]

21 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Before it turns into a circus? It's not a circus already?!

I think he meant before we see the grand finale.

After losing by a combined 42 points to the same mediocre team I don't want to see what's in store.

[Brass Cannon]

Bennett is my top college choice with Jay Wright as a close second. We need to at least make enough phone calls that these guys get huge raises. 

[Toothdr]

I'm just saying the longer it goes on, the more opportunities for us to look even more disfunctional on so many different levels. Cut bait before it does more damage and move on.


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[theriverpilot]

36 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

A couple weeks ago I thought Crean would get another year- I have changed my mind. He's lost a large section of the fan-base and now, it appears, his team. 

Unlike many of you, I like Crean. I don't care if he drinks Diet Coke and tugs on his pants. He can clap until he bleeds as long as IU plays consistent, high-level basketball. That hasn't happened and no indication that it will at this point. It's going to be a full-blown firestorm if Glass doesn't make the move and soon. I don't think Stevens or Donovan are realistic. Marshall doesn't interest me. Bennett, I could see happening and being very successful in the B1G & NCAA's.

 

The bolded part above is exactly how I feel about Crean.  I also agree that the time has come to make a change and that change needs to happen sooner than later.

[Hoosier_roots]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-indiana-s-crean-could-be-headed-to-market/article_38dc22c2-1941-50a5-a735-1d071acb61bc.amp.html


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[Hoosier_roots]

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[weaverswonders6]

Archie is making over $1 mil a year as of 2 yrs ago.  I know someone said before he was making $692k.  Local papers in Dayton now catching on to rumor.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/events/sports/report-state-puts-out-feelers-archie-miller/KltcMzZ0dxodbrP6X2xOJM/

[Rookie33]

Missouri is a perfect fit -- that program is happy just to get into the tourney, and it is an absolute MESS right now.  Crean has proven to be great at cleaning things up, which is what Missouri needs.  He's hit the "ceiling" here -- we haven't made a final 4 in 15 years and haven't won a title in 30 years.  CTC isn't the guy to get us to either of those places. On a somewhat related note, what do people know about Texas Tech's coach, Chris Beard?  The guy is doing an IMPRESSIVE job down there w/ a win over Baylor...

[Rookie33]

2 minutes ago, weaverswonders6 said:

Archie is making over $1 mil a year as of 2 yrs ago.  I know someone said before he was making $692k.  Local papers in Dayton now catching on to rumor.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/events/sports/report-state-puts-out-feelers-archie-miller/KltcMzZ0dxodbrP6X2xOJM/

If (and it's a big IF) both the NC State and Indiana jobs were available, one would think he'd take Indiana.  

[weaverswonders6]

3 minutes ago, Rookie33 said:

Missouri is a perfect fit -- that program is happy just to get into the tourney, and it is an absolute MESS right now.  Crean has proven to be great at cleaning things up, which is what Missouri needs.  He's hit the "ceiling" here -- we haven't made a final 4 in 15 years and haven't won a title in 30 years.  CTC isn't the guy to get us to either of those places. On a somewhat related note, what do people know about Texas Tech's coach, Chris Beard?  The guy is doing an IMPRESSIVE job down there w/ a win over Baylor...

Too new for me to form an absolute opinion on the guy.  I did see he took a team that won 13 games and the following year they won 30.  And he is doing a decent job at Tech.  Seems all their big wins have been at home though.  I'd like our next coach to be able to win on the road....Seems that's plagued IU a lot in recent years as well.  Play amazing at home and then look completely different on the road when the shots aren't falling.

[brandct]

2 minutes ago, weaverswonders6 said:

Too new for me to form an absolute opinion on the guy.  I did see he took a team that won 13 games and the following year they won 30.  And he is doing a decent job at Tech.  Seems all their big wins have been at home though.  I'd like our next coach to be able to win on the road....Seems that's plagued IU a lot in recent years as well.  Play amazing at home and then look completely different on the road when the shots aren't falling.

He is at his almamater and has ties to RMK as an assistant or something like that

[JSHoosier]

10 minutes ago, brandct said:

He is at his almamater and has ties to RMK as an assistant or something like that

He was an assistant for both Bob and Pat Knight at Texas Tech.

[Trish]

This Chris guy has an impressive record so far.. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beard_(basketball)

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

This Chris guy has an impressive record so far.. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beard_(basketball)

Really guys lol I have been lobbying for this guy for days. I have shared links about RMK begging him to take an assistant spot when he was at Texas Tech. Only problem....when he choose UNLV and Tech opened up the AD had Knight convince him to be the head coach there. Idk if he leaves this quick with ties to the program and Knight. With Knight's hate towards us he could easily make the job less appealing. Like I stated in the past few days he probably isn't on our radar due to Knight ties and this is his first year at big competition. I would take him in a heart beat though. Guy is tough nosed and has made Tech a tourney team!! That just doesn't happen much. Analyst over the years have talked about how Lubbock is an okay school for football but horrible for basketball so maybe he does leave. He has beat WVU, Baylor and a moving screen called away from beating KU. He already has the most top ten wins in the program since 07-08 almost a decade ago. Before that it had been 20 plus years.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

This Chris guy has an impressive record so far.. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beard_(basketball)

Really guys lol I have been lobbying for this guy for days. I have shared links about RMK begging him to take an assistant spot when he was at Texas Tech. Only problem....when he choose UNLV and Tech opened up the AD had Knight convince him to be the head coach there. Idk if he leaves this quick with ties to the program and Knight. With Knight's hate towards us he could easily make the job less appealing. Like I stated in the past few days he probably isn't on our radar due to Knight ties and this is his first year at big competition. I would take him in a heart beat though. Guy is tough nosed and has made Tech a tourney team!! That just doesn't happen much. Analyst over the years have talked about how Lubbock is an okay school for football but horrible for basketball so maybe he does leave. He has beat WVU, Baylor and a moving screen called away from beating KU. He already has the most top ten wins in the program since 07-08 almost a decade ago. Before that it had been 20 plus years.

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[weaverswonders6]

Just not positive how/why you go to a guy as unproven as Chris Beard when there's plenty of proven HC's out there that should at least consider us.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Just not positive how/why you go to a guy as unproven as Chris Beard when there's plenty of proven HC's out there that should at least consider us.

Dude. RMK said he was chill. What don't you get?


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[HoosierCoop]

I am shaking my head, STILL, on what the hell is happening to this team.

Last season we won the B1G.  Two things here:  1.  We had a different team makeup   2.  We had an easy as pie B1G Schedule (and don't argue that).

-we had an ouch in Maui last year with WF and UNLV.  We got destroyed on the road at Duke.  Typically these suck but was a trend with most Crean teams in the past.  

-Our B1G schedule last year had us playing Purdue, Maryland, and Mich. St. only once with one on the road.

-Looking at stat leaders for points, rebounds, and assists:  It was consistently Yogi, Troy, and Max.  Bryant only a handful of times and OG only once.

On paper, we should be a top ten team this year.  Somehow we beat Kansas and UNC.  I was beaming going into the season after that.  Butler I can understand losing, but that's where it really falls off.

Yogi, was the one that made Crean look good last year.  Hell, Yogi made everyone look good last year.  Even though the offense was badly constructed, it worked for Yogi.  You had to collapse on him or he would score on you.  Nobody can do that this year which make this offense terrible.  Nobody can go one-on-one like the players we lost.  Crean hasn't changed anything to adapt to this team's style.  It's not that we don't have scorers, we don't have anyone that can go one-on-one.

Bottom line:  It's all on Crean.  If you can't get the team to fit your plan, fit your plan for the team.  Dribble drive does not work with this team.