TOM CREAN FIRED

[kottke]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

Don't remember which games were at the end of regulation (except the home loss to PSU where they pressed and we crapped our pants in the last two minutes), but I remember having halftime leads at Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan and proceeding to get dominated in the second half. 

 

Yeah, PSU was definitely one of them. Were the games against Minny, Wisky, and Michigan that same season? That is probably what I am thinking about. I remember never feeling safe no matter how large the lead was because I just knew we couldn't hold onto a lead. So frustrating...

[JSHoosier]

49 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Okay all, when was it that you realized for certain that Crean was not the man for the job?  I knew the first time I saw Verdell Jones fall down.

For absolute certain?  Probably when he managed to miss the NIT with 2 burger boys because absolutely positively cannot adjust his "offense" to save his life.  I was willing to give him another year, then I was completely off the train.

First glowing red sign?  The Syracuse debacle and his indescribably incompetent preparation for that zone.  An untrained circus monkey on a bad acid trip couldn't have done much worse.

[RickyIU]

34 minutes ago, kottke said:

Same here. The first two years I gave him a pass for the most part. When we regressed in year 3 I started to wonder. Then things went great for 2 seasons. The year of Vonleh is when I started having my first major concerns because we should have been much better. Last season I was all but done with him after the Duke game, then of course they completely reversed course, so I let it go. This year was definitely make or break year in my eyes (not that I would have been surprised to see him go earlier). If this team didn't accomplish a great season followed up by a deep tourney run, I was definitely on the train.

Dear Yogi,

Thank you for keeping my job alive for a year.

Love,

Tom Crean

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

http://www.scout.com/mma/story/1757755-coaching-hot-board-with-embeddable-cards

just happened along this while I was doing some searches. decent read

Shows what I have thought. Bennett is a least likely target as Billy. This search will be fun. Hopefully I can watch a few of these teams when it counts to see more. I like a lot of these candidates.

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[Trish]

Okay all, when was it that you realized for certain that Crean was not the man for the job?  I knew the first time I saw Verdell Jones fall down.

Syracuse.


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[RickyIU]

22 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

http://www.scout.com/mma/story/1757755-coaching-hot-board-with-embeddable-cards

just happened along this while I was doing some searches. decent read

Who from Scout wrote that? Two years ago Peegs wouldn't even let people mention coaches' names. Now he's writing articles about them?

Thats a little telling to me.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Who from Scout wrote that? Two years ago Peegs wouldn't even let people mention coaches' names. Now he's writing articles about them?

Thats a little telling to me.

Says the whole staff was involved with it. That is even more telling.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Mizzou fan started a poll for grade if they hired Crean. 306 votes right now and 80% is either A or B. Seems like he has a landing spot.

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[VO5]

1 hour ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Mizzou fan started a poll for grade if they hired Crean. 306 votes right now and 80% is either A or B. Seems like he has a landing spot.

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As we know all too well, what the fans want isn't necessarily what the AD wants. Even if it's painfully obvious

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

As we know all too well, what the fans want isn't necessarily what the AD wants. Even if it's painfully obvious

Mizzou is likely to go after Crean if he was really interested though. Kim Anderson was not a good hire but was their best choice out of guys who wanted job. Marshall said no instantly. Crean would be a great hire for them I think their AD is taken a proven guy this time anyway. Another miss makes him not the AD anymore lol.

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[HoosierTrav]

I have been thinking the same thing. Lon Kruger was the guy until Crean was announced out of nowhere. I could see somebody like Chris Collins being announced as the coach. Much to the surprise of everyone.


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I'm actually anticipating this.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

http://www.scout.com/mma/story/1757755-coaching-hot-board-with-embeddable-cards

just happened along this while I was doing some searches. decent read

Article was taken down


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[ALASKA HOOSIER]

Remember, I told you the AD at Missouri is listening to to the fans and donorz

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[Hoosier Guy]

5 hours ago, Maynard said:

Okay all, when was it that you realized for certain that Crean was not the man for the job?  I knew the first time I saw Verdell Jones fall down.

Syracuse debacle. Wanted him gone ever since. If he couldn't win with that team, he wasn't gonna win with any team. Been a long four years on the tank train but the ride is about over

[Alford Bailey]

8 hours ago, cljones1979 said:

http://www.scout.com/mma/story/1757755-coaching-hot-board-with-embeddable-cards

just happened along this while I was doing some searches. decent read

Article was taken down. What did it say?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

9 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

First glowing red sign?  The Syracuse debacle and his indescribably incompetent preparation for that zone.  An untrained circus monkey on a bad acid trip couldn't have done much worse.

Yeah, this was my ephiphany moment as well.

[cljones1979]

30 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Article was taken down. What did it say?

It had a list of possible crean replacements. Told a little about them, salary, buyout stuff like that. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

A little Friday morning fiction - or is it?

“

Well, I’ll start off by saying this: do not blame that game on me, OK? I don’t care who you play — whether it’s a high school team, an intra-mural team, a junior college team — much less a college team. When you turn the ball over (insert #) times you ain’t going to beat anybody I just talked about. Anybody. All right? And that was a disgraceful performance in my opinion. We threw that game. We gave it away by doing that. We gave them the friggin’ game. In my opinion, that sucked. Ah. You know? You can’t turn the ball over (insert #) times like that. Holy crap! I don’t know who the hell we think we are when we do something like that. Unbelievable.  (Insert #) turnovers.  That’s pitiful! I mean, it’s absolutely pitiful to perform like that. Pitiful!

”

At the end of the press conference Tom Crean responded to a question from a reporter asking about the Hoosiers  chances for making it to the Big Dance. Coach Crean replied in a high pitched sounding voice with:

“	What’s that? Ah — NCAA Tournament? Don’t talk about — NCAA Tournament?  You kidding me? NCAA Tournament? I just hope we can win a game in the BTT!  Another game.

[bigrod]

I have to be honest.  I would prefer Bennett over Donovan.  Donovan is exciting because of his track record and the weight that his name would bring to IU, but I have followed Bennett and his father for a long time and I am not sure that there is anyone better at coaching fundamentals of the game. 

I'll be happy with Donovan, but I'm not so sure he is my top choice. I really like Archie. I think he is a great young coach who would build us back up to where we should be. My next choice is probably a toss up between Bennett and Donovan. I like Marshall, but I just think he is too old to bring in. I really don't want to hire another coach in ten years (unless Stevens would be ready to come back).


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[Brass Cannon]

7 minutes ago, bigrod said:

I'll be happy with Donovan, but I'm not so sure he is my top choice. I really like Archie. I think he is a great young coach who would build us back up to where we should be. My next choice is probably a toss up between Bennett and Donovan. I like Marshall, but I just think he is too old to bring in. I really don't want to hire another coach in ten years (unless Stevens would be ready to come back).


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I get the thought process of getting a young guy. 

But you absolutely can not take a flyer on a guy who has potential when you have a 2 x national champion up for consideration. 

Has a coach with multiple titles ever chosen of his own volition to even go to a new school? I don't think so it's unheard of