TOM CREAN FIRED

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

IU can ALWAYS get a big name. It's Indiana for a reason. It's a blue blood of NCAA basketball. They can get a big name coach if they want

I wouldnt be so sure. That is why after Stevens and Billy D as well as Bennett, Archie and Collins along with a few other guys are probably our targets. It CAN get a big name if the situation is good and timing is always very key. UCLA picked bad timing to get rid of Howland and got Alford. He was not a big name at the time. He was in the Archie territory for us. Honestly it isnt that IU isnt capable it is the fact that most other big name coaches are very comfortable and not going anywhere.

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[AKHoosier 7,654]

I remember whispers a few years ago when we were struggling that Donovan was interested in the IU job if it were open, which obviously never ended up happening.

It seems like reading the tea leaves that he is at the very least intrigued by the position.

[Brass Cannon 25,376]

Just now, AKHoosier said:

I remember whispers a few years ago when we were struggling that Donovan was interested in the IU job if it were open, which obviously never ended up happening.

It seems like reading the tea leaves that he is at the very least intrigued by the position.

Yeah it's nice to see a fanbase that knows he isn't coming there also is hearing he wants to come back. 

Only a blue blood is going to be able to afford him. We better snag him while we can. 

[TheWatShot 15,457]

Time to fan the flames…here is a PM conversation I had with someone two years ago:

Him: So i got a call from a friend of mine who has ties with iu basketball. I was not going to post it or even let anyone know until i just read your post from the UK fan. I heard the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Billy Donovan. I was told that IU is talking to Billy and their is mutual interest. I was also told that Crean is "moving money around." I am not sure what that means but i can only assume it has to do with the buyout. Crazy. I do like the idea of Donovan. Outside of Stephens he brings instant credability to the program. Anyway, take it for what its worth. I dont feel sure enough to post it but when I read your post i almost fell out of my chair. Thought i would let someone know.

Me: I can't remember where, but I heard about Donovan being interested a few weeks ago.

Here's hoping it happens. IU would be set for the first time this century.

Him: Would be an amazing hire.

This was the post I made that prompted this conversation: 

Got this off another site, posted by a UK fan:

"The following is from a friend of mine in the know. They are spot on when it comes to who will commit to UK way before its public. In other words, they are in the business. From them (not me): Crean gone this year and There is mutual interest between IU and Billy Donavan. Florida has apparently broken some promises to him regarding facility upgrades, etc. it's a football school and IU would be perfect for him."

And now, to throw cold water on those flames…the rest of the conversation, a few days later:

Me: I know it's only been a few days, but have you heard anything else? Any kind of timeline to this stuff?

Him: No. Sounds like it was 3rd party feelers for both sides but IU is not willing to pull the trigger.

 

I'm hoping "not willing to pull the trigger" was code for "not sure we want to give up on Crean just yet" and not "we don't want to go big." 

[Brass Cannon 25,376]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Time to fan the flames…here is a PM conversation I had with someone two years ago:

Him: So i got a call from a friend of mine who has ties with iu basketball. I was not going to post it or even let anyone know until i just read your post from the UK fan. I heard the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Billy Donovan. I was told that IU is talking to Billy and their is mutual interest. I was also told that Crean is "moving money around." I am not sure what that means but i can only assume it has to do with the buyout. Crazy. I do like the idea of Donovan. Outside of Stephens he brings instant credability to the program. Anyway, take it for what its worth. I dont feel sure enough to post it but when I read your post i almost fell out of my chair. Thought i would let someone know.

Me: I can't remember where, but I heard about Donovan being interested a few weeks ago.

Here's hoping it happens. IU would be set for the first time this century.

Him: Would be an amazing hire.

This was the post I made that prompted this conversation: 

Got this off another site, posted by a UK fan:

"The following is from a friend of mine in the know. They are spot on when it comes to who will commit to UK way before its public. In other words, they are in the business. From them (not me): Crean gone this year and There is mutual interest between IU and Billy Donavan. Florida has apparently broken some promises to him regarding facility upgrades, etc. it's a football school and IU would be perfect for him."

And now, to throw cold water on those flames…the rest of the conversation, a few days later:

Me: I know it's only been a few days, but have you heard anything else? Any kind of timeline to this stuff?

Him: No. Sounds like it was 3rd party feelers for both sides but IU is not willing to pull the trigger.

 

I'm hoping "not willing to pull the trigger" was code for "not sure we want to give up on Crean just yet" and not "we don't want to go big." 

Yeah at least it wasn't Billy D wasn't interested

[JSHoosier 22,197]

If IU could pull Donovan I'd change my avatar to a Justin Bieber for a month.

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

WOW. Sounds like Billy Donovan could be a realistic target. And that's not a surprise because "It's Indiana"

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

ONLY reason they MAYBE said no is cause the buyout was crazy expensive and Billy D is gonna cost A LOT. To get him then it likely cost around 20 million. Now it cost around 10-12. HUGE difference.

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[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

If IU could pull Donovan I'd change my avatar to a Justin Bieber for a month.

No for the love of God, don't do it

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

If he really will come here now. IU gets it done no doubt in my mind. It depends on what Billy D wants not IU at this point.

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[JSHoosier 22,197]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

No for the love of God, don't do it

For that kind of hire I'd take one for the team.  Sorry, Emma.  Just a month though.

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

12 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

I wouldnt be so sure. That is why after Stevens and Billy D as well as Bennett, Archie and Collins along with a few other guys are probably our targets. It CAN get a big name if the situation is good and timing is always very key. UCLA picked bad timing to get rid of Howland and got Alford. He was not a big name at the time. He was in the Archie territory for us. Honestly it isnt that IU isnt capable it is the fact that most other big name coaches are very comfortable and not going anywhere.

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IU can get a big name if they want dog. It's just a matter of if IU wants a big name or not

[HoosierRob 1,042]

Would be a dream come true hire.

Just doubt it will happen.

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

For that kind of hire I'd take one for the team.  Sorry, Emma.  Just a month though.

At least it's just a month. I could still look up pics on the internet

[Brass Cannon 25,376]

Wonder how much money Cuban would give to hire Donovan just so the Mavs wouldn't have to deal with him anymore 

[JSHoosier 22,197]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

IU can get a big name if they want dog. It's just a matter of if IU wants a big name or not

I've thought this for a while.  If the administration wants to bring the program back to dominance they'll go for the home run, knowing the offer everything it takes to win big at this level.  If they're okay with mediocrity then they won't.

[AKHoosier 7,654]

14 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Time to fan the flames…here is a PM conversation I had with someone two years ago:

Him: So i got a call from a friend of mine who has ties with iu basketball. I was not going to post it or even let anyone know until i just read your post from the UK fan. I heard the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Billy Donovan. I was told that IU is talking to Billy and their is mutual interest. I was also told that Crean is "moving money around." I am not sure what that means but i can only assume it has to do with the buyout. Crazy. I do like the idea of Donovan. Outside of Stephens he brings instant credability to the program. Anyway, take it for what its worth. I dont feel sure enough to post it but when I read your post i almost fell out of my chair. Thought i would let someone know.

Me: I can't remember where, but I heard about Donovan being interested a few weeks ago.

Here's hoping it happens. IU would be set for the first time this century.

Him: Would be an amazing hire.

This was the post I made that prompted this conversation: 

Got this off another site, posted by a UK fan:

"The following is from a friend of mine in the know. They are spot on when it comes to who will commit to UK way before its public. In other words, they are in the business. From them (not me): Crean gone this year and There is mutual interest between IU and Billy Donavan. Florida has apparently broken some promises to him regarding facility upgrades, etc. it's a football school and IU would be perfect for him."

And now, to throw cold water on those flames…the rest of the conversation, a few days later:

Me: I know it's only been a few days, but have you heard anything else? Any kind of timeline to this stuff?

Him: No. Sounds like it was 3rd party feelers for both sides but IU is not willing to pull the trigger.

 

I'm hoping "not willing to pull the trigger" was code for "not sure we want to give up on Crean just yet" and not "we don't want to go big." 

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

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1 minute ago, AKHoosier said:

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

Combination of the buyout and Crean selling the team the next year. Which admittedly one of his better teams.

donovan would understand. 

[JSHoosier 22,197]

2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

That's when I would've done it.  On court product was crap plus off court issues.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Wonder how much money Cuban would give to hire Donovan just so the Mavs wouldn't have to deal with him anymore 

Hahaha and then Russell Westbrook joins the Mavs after next year lol. Cuban only said he wasnt a superstar as some huge ploy. I could see it man.

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