TOM CREAN FIRED

[Hoosier Guy]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

For that kind of hire I'd take one for the team.  Sorry, Emma.  Just a month though.

At least it's just a month. I could still look up pics on the internet

[Brass Cannon]

Wonder how much money Cuban would give to hire Donovan just so the Mavs wouldn't have to deal with him anymore 

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

IU can get a big name if they want dog. It's just a matter of if IU wants a big name or not

I've thought this for a while.  If the administration wants to bring the program back to dominance they'll go for the home run, knowing the offer everything it takes to win big at this level.  If they're okay with mediocrity then they won't.

[AKHoosier]

14 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Time to fan the flames…here is a PM conversation I had with someone two years ago:

Him: So i got a call from a friend of mine who has ties with iu basketball. I was not going to post it or even let anyone know until i just read your post from the UK fan. I heard the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Billy Donovan. I was told that IU is talking to Billy and their is mutual interest. I was also told that Crean is "moving money around." I am not sure what that means but i can only assume it has to do with the buyout. Crazy. I do like the idea of Donovan. Outside of Stephens he brings instant credability to the program. Anyway, take it for what its worth. I dont feel sure enough to post it but when I read your post i almost fell out of my chair. Thought i would let someone know.

Me: I can't remember where, but I heard about Donovan being interested a few weeks ago.

Here's hoping it happens. IU would be set for the first time this century.

Him: Would be an amazing hire.

This was the post I made that prompted this conversation: 

Got this off another site, posted by a UK fan:

"The following is from a friend of mine in the know. They are spot on when it comes to who will commit to UK way before its public. In other words, they are in the business. From them (not me): Crean gone this year and There is mutual interest between IU and Billy Donavan. Florida has apparently broken some promises to him regarding facility upgrades, etc. it's a football school and IU would be perfect for him."

And now, to throw cold water on those flames…the rest of the conversation, a few days later:

Me: I know it's only been a few days, but have you heard anything else? Any kind of timeline to this stuff?

Him: No. Sounds like it was 3rd party feelers for both sides but IU is not willing to pull the trigger.

 

I'm hoping "not willing to pull the trigger" was code for "not sure we want to give up on Crean just yet" and not "we don't want to go big." 

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, AKHoosier said:

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

Combination of the buyout and Crean selling the team the next year. Which admittedly one of his better teams.

donovan would understand. 

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

That's when I would've done it.  On court product was crap plus off court issues.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Wonder how much money Cuban would give to hire Donovan just so the Mavs wouldn't have to deal with him anymore 

Hahaha and then Russell Westbrook joins the Mavs after next year lol. Cuban only said he wasnt a superstar as some huge ploy. I could see it man.

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[Hoosier Guy]

7 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I've thought this for a while.  If the administration wants to bring the program back to dominance they'll go for the home run, knowing the offer everything it takes to win big at this level.  If they're okay with mediocrity then they won't.

Yep. You have to go for the home run. IU speaks for itself. This place has everything to succeed. And it's a blue blood of NCAA basketball

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Hoosier Guy said:

Yep. You have to go for the home run. IU speaks for itself. This place has everything to succeed. And it's a blue blood of NCAA basketball. 

Yeah if Paps rumors are true then Glass just needs to go because that's not a blue blood hire. That's not even a program on the rise hire

[Hoosier Guy]

5 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm hoping if this is true (not doubting you), Donovan doesn't harbor any negative feelings towards IU from this for backing out or anything.

So this would have been the year we lost to Wichita State in the first round of the tournament, correct?

I can actually understand why we didn't pull the trigger that year.  It was still too early imo.

I don't think it was too early at all. IU got lucky that they were in the tournament in the 2014-2015 season. That was two straight awful years after the Syracuse debacle. It was the perfect time

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah if Paps rumors are true then Glass just needs to go because that's not a blue blood hire. That's not even a program on the rise hire

It's hoping lightening strikes twice in the same spot.

[Hoosier Guy]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah if Paps rumors are true then Glass just needs to go because that's not a blue blood hire. That's not even a program on the rise hire

Yeah it really wouldn't be

[mdiu28]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah if Paps rumors are true then Glass just needs to go because that's not a blue blood hire. That's not even a program on the rise hire

It wouldn't be the hire the fanbase wants/needs but I wouldn't view it as a bad hire - at all. 

[AKHoosier]

2 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

It wouldn't be the hire the fanbase wants/needs but I wouldn't view it as a bad hire - at all. 

I'd view it as a very good Plan D hire.  And I don't mean that as a slight to him, just that there are other more proven guys we should be targeting before it gets to him.

[Brass Cannon]

12 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

It wouldn't be the hire the fanbase wants/needs but I wouldn't view it as a bad hire - at all. 

He's never made the tournament. He will this year but before this year his teams were Terribad

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Speaking of Fran McCaffrey, he says NO WAY Indiana will fire Crean. Goes on to explain why. 5 losses less than 5 pts. Players playing hard for him. He more or less called the fanbase crazy for how we are reacting. Lol. Who wouldn't want to coach against a guy that studies "coaching" more than he studies "basketball".


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[HoosierRob]

He's never made the tournament. He will this year but before this year his teams were Terribad

 

He had to rebuild at a school that is very hard to recruit at.

 

I'm not saying he's great but he's unproven. I think we can do way better as well but there is a reason why his teams were bad before this year.

[LIHoosier]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Speaking of Fran McCaffrey, he says NO WAY Indiana will fire Crean. Goes on to explain why. 5 losses less than 5 pts. Players playing hard for him. He more or less called the fanbase crazy for how we are reacting. Lol. Who wouldn't want to coach against a guy that studies "coaching" more than he studies "basketball".


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McCaffrey also thinks the basketball is talking to him. He's a psychopath. At least he kept his team that was ranked in the top 5 from missing the tournament last year. McCaffery should be happy that basketball is the #2 sport in that season(to wrestling) or he'd be gone too.

[Uspshoosier]

He's never made the tournament. He will this year but before this year his teams were Terribad

Northwestern has 4 20 win seasons in its basketball history (he was 2 of them). With regard to his teams not making a tournament, he took over a program that has never made it to the tournament. I'm just saying his situation is a little more complicated then he has never made a tournament


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[Hovadipo]

Speaking of Fran McCaffrey, he says NO WAY Indiana will fire Crean. Goes on to explain why. 5 losses less than 5 pts. Players playing hard for him. He more or less called the fanbase crazy for how we are reacting. Lol. Who wouldn't want to coach against a guy that studies "coaching" more than he studies "basketball".


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Coaches always have coaches' backs. You know that obviously. But Fran is legitimately a nutcase lol.


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