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All over the national writers/talking heads is this notion that Indiana fans are these unreasonable rubes who just don't appreciate Tom Crean. Crean did a fine job and one that we appreciate.  Bu

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4 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

I'm 36, but I can't remember former POTUS's having the amount of exit interviews COMBINED that Crean has given in the last 10 days or so.

I will never understand why people like the guy. Yeah he brought us back, like it was his job to do. I guess he's a "good guy" in public. 

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I am amazed at how blind or ignorant Tom Crean is/was of the facts...
With all of the chatter about the coaching situation at IU, with all the speculation about the end of the Crean era, the refusal of Glass to extend Crean... the rumors about the imminent coaching change... and Crean honestly had no idea that the end was near?
Now this comment about being with Cody/Vic every day and having no clue that they were leaving, or having no contingency in place in the event they did... and a similar situation with Noah Vonleh...
Add to that the absolute CF that The Movement was (save Yogi)...
You have to wonder about Crean's ability to read the situation... perhaps that was also a factor in his inability to make in-game changes and adapt to the game as it unfolds.
 

More media manipulation. He over recruited every year and he didn't know players were leaving? Something doesn't make sense.


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He said the same thing to Seth Davis. I don't get it. If you're coaching a blue-blood program, you don't get a re-start. I don't think anybody expected an NCAA title the year after Cody and Vic left, but 17-15, 7th in the B1G and no postseason was ridiculous. And if "The Movement" -- except Yogi -- hadn't turned out to be such a massive flop, he would have been well-stocked to keep moving forward. The whole second start thing boggles my mind. 

Based on his record, it seems he wanted a restart roughly every 2-3 years.


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59 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

He said the same thing to Seth Davis. I don't get it. If you're coaching a blue-blood program, you don't get a re-start. I don't think anybody expected an NCAA title the year after Cody and Vic left, but 17-15, 7th in the B1G and no postseason was ridiculous. And if "The Movement" -- except Yogi -- hadn't turned out to be such a massive flop, he would have been well-stocked to keep moving forward. The whole second start thing boggles my mind. 

The guy had the #4 recruiting class in the country coming in the year after Vic and Cody left and he's talking about how he should've hired a PR firm so fans would've gotten behind another rebuild? Give me a freakin break. No one was going to get on board with that dude. Big time programs are supposed to reload, but rebuild. If you didn't have the right guys then that's on you Tom. I've never seen someone refuse to accept responsibility for their failures like Tom Crean. 

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The guy had the #4 recruiting class in the country coming in the year after Vic and Cody left and he's talking about how he should've hired a PR firm so fans would've gotten behind another rebuild? Give me a freakin break. No one was going to get on board with that dude. Big time programs are supposed to reload, but rebuild. If you didn't have the right guys then that's on you Tom. I've never seen someone refuse to accept responsibility for their failures like Tom Crean. 

Not to mention a top 10 class the year before Vic and Cody left as well. So he had consecutive top 10 classes to replace the Vic/Cody/Hulls/Watford group and they couldn't even make the NIT. 

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2 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Not to mention a top 10 class the year before Vic and Cody left as well. So he had consecutive top 10 classes to replace the Vic/Cody/Hulls/Watford group and they couldn't even make the NIT. 

Yup. It's crazy. Like sure, looking back those probably shouldn't have been ranked as top ten classes, but he recruited all of the players in them. If they flopped then he deserves some of the blame for recruiting the wrong guys. Every other coach understands that players graduate and move on so they better have guys ready to come in and fill their spots. Crean wanted to break it all down and go into rebuild mode for a couple years after a successful season. 

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Just listened to Crean on PTI. Wow. Brought up that he should've campaigned harder for a second start over at IU after Victor and Cody left. Then states that if he ever has to campaign for a job opening he will get out of coaching. What a joke. So glad he isn't overseeing our program anymore. 

Crean is delusional but he is not our problem anymore at least.

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The guy had the #4 recruiting class in the country coming in the year after Vic and Cody left and he's talking about how he should've hired a PR firm so fans would've gotten behind another rebuild? Give me a freakin break. No one was going to get on board with that dude. Big time programs are supposed to reload, but rebuild. If you didn't have the right guys then that's on you Tom. I've never seen someone refuse to accept responsibility for their failures like Tom Crean. 



Very arrogant man but a nice guy I guess. Lol.

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I really want to have some decent memories about the guy, but the more of these interviews I hear, the less respect I have for him. How about moving on with some dignity!? It's becoming apparent why he couldn't put any kind of a consistent product out there.


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Because in his mind he is smarter than all of us and nothing is ever his fault. Never understood why some of you think he is such a great guy.

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1 minute ago, recker222000 said:


Because in his mind he is smarter than all of us and nothing is ever his fault. Never understood why some of you think he is such a great guy.

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Because he bought a homeless a meal and preached to him about God and he sometimes calls and checks up on people's sick relatives. Maybe he's the world's greatest guy but the impression I have of him isn't a very good one based off the things I've heard and the things he's done. 

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Because he bought a homeless a meal and preached to him about God and he sometimes calls and checks up on people's sick relatives. Maybe he's the world's greatest guy but the impression I have of him isn't a very good one based off the things I've heard and the things he's done. 

The whole buying the homeless man a meal deal is great but if i had creans money id buy every homeless person i saw meal. Does that make me a great guy? It just means i have the means to do it. What he did is really not that out of the ordinary. Most people i know are very thoughtful and generous with volunteering and donations
I guess i jusy know alot of great guys.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

My post was deleted last night for some reason. But yeah I can't stand the guy. I'm SO GLAD he's not the coach anymore. I don't care about him one bit


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