bigrod Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 On the Seth Davis podcast, Crean said we lost some kids in Indiana, because money changed hands. Izzo and MSU are the ones that have been taking a lot of our in state guys. I hate to think Izzo has turned dirty, but it seems to make sense.Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile appWho knows if this is true or just another excuse.Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 For everyone still trying to bash Crean and say his kindness is an act to manipulate those around him... here's an interesting article from Doyel:http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/31/doyel-compassionate-tom-crean-not-cartoon-character-you-think-he/99863548/Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app BtownBanner6 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 So ready for everyone to move on.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Napleshoosier, HoosierAloha, ccgeneral and 1 other 4 Quote
coonhounds Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 So ready for everyone to move on.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appFrom knight or crean lol Sent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, mdn82 said: So ready for everyone to move on. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app As soon as there's something more interesting to talk about, people will move on quickly :) Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Excuses, excuses, excuses! Not sure how recent this podcast was but Crean needs to go ahead and ZIP IT!It was yesterday. He was asked why he didn't get more in state talent to keep his job. I agree with most saying Izzo wouldn't resort to that, but track record of those kids that Crean is talking about ended up at MSU so I would not be surprised if Izzo doesn't call ol Tommy boy. I know U of L has gotten a kid or two and so has UK. The funniest part is some end up at Butler or Xavier or Purdue. ND as well. They aren't high ranked but example Baldwin from Butler looks like a star!! No way anyone was paying him. I think Crean is ONLY hurting his future and nothing else. He isn't getting his job back here, so why keep doing these interviews? The more he does the more bitter he sounds. Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app reconmkd, SlamaJamaSisley, Tom White and 3 others 6 Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 MSU makes deals.Exhibit A: Brendan DawsonIZZO operates in the gray. Fact Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersDelvon Roe as wellSent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said: There would be less than a 0% chance of Crean saying anything. Seth Davis knows it, Crean knows it, you know it, I know it, the whole world knows it. Why waste precious air over it? It would be the equivalent of JS asking Emma Watson for a date. Sure, ask the question for shots and giggles but it ain't happening. If Seth Davis is half the journalist he thinks he is he knows that it happens a lot and you don't talk about it. Hold up. What makes you think it wouldn't happen? A smart, funny, talented, and devastatingly handsome guy like myself? Come on. Did I mention humble too? coonhounds, thebigweave, IUsafety and 4 others 7 Quote
Trish Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 For everyone still trying to bash Crean and say his kindness is an act to manipulate those around him... here's an interesting article from Doyel:http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/03/31/doyel-compassionate-tom-crean-not-cartoon-character-you-think-he/99863548/Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app#WeMissCrean#BesidesHisCoaching Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Just because you are nice to some people doesn't necessarily make you a nice person. recker222000, Hoosierfan2017 and VO5 3 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JSHoosier said: Hold up. What makes you think it wouldn't happen? A smart, funny, talented, and devastatingly handsome guy like myself? Come on. Did I mention humble too? Man I could go for her or Ariana Grande. Damn if I had one wish... IUsafety 1 Quote
VO5 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Just listened to Crean on PTI. Wow. Brought up that he should've campaigned harder for a second start over at IU after Victor and Cody left. Then states that if he ever has to campaign for a job opening he will get out of coaching. What a joke. So glad he isn't overseeing our program anymore. southsidehoosier and Tom White 2 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, VO5 said: Just listened to Crean on PTI. Wow. Brought up that he should've campaigned harder for a second start over at IU after Victor and Cody left. Then states that if he ever has to campaign for a job opening he will get out of coaching. What a joke. So glad he isn't overseeing our program anymore. What an insufferable guy. He walks around like he's God's gift to coaching. Words can't explain how happy I am that he's gone. ALASKA HOOSIER and VO5 2 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VO5 said: Just listened to Crean on PTI. Wow. Brought up that he should've campaigned harder for a second start over at IU after Victor and Cody left. He said the same thing to Seth Davis. I don't get it. If you're coaching a blue-blood program, you don't get a re-start. I don't think anybody expected an NCAA title the year after Cody and Vic left, but 17-15, 7th in the B1G and no postseason was ridiculous. And if "The Movement" -- except Yogi -- hadn't turned out to be such a massive flop, he would have been well-stocked to keep moving forward. The whole second start thing boggles my mind. Edited March 31, 2017 by LamarCheeks ALASKA HOOSIER, VO5 and IUsafety 3 Quote
LIHoosier Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I'm 36, but I can't remember former POTUS's having the amount of exit interviews COMBINED that Crean has given in the last 10 days or so. southsidehoosier, theriverpilot, johnsoniu and 2 others 5 Quote
VO5 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, LIHoosier said: I'm 36, but I can't remember former POTUS's having the amount of exit interviews COMBINED that Crean has given in the last 10 days or so. I will never understand why people like the guy. Yeah he brought us back, like it was his job to do. I guess he's a "good guy" in public. Quote
bigrod Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I am amazed at how blind or ignorant Tom Crean is/was of the facts... With all of the chatter about the coaching situation at IU, with all the speculation about the end of the Crean era, the refusal of Glass to extend Crean... the rumors about the imminent coaching change... and Crean honestly had no idea that the end was near? Now this comment about being with Cody/Vic every day and having no clue that they were leaving, or having no contingency in place in the event they did... and a similar situation with Noah Vonleh... Add to that the absolute CF that The Movement was (save Yogi)... You have to wonder about Crean's ability to read the situation... perhaps that was also a factor in his inability to make in-game changes and adapt to the game as it unfolds. More media manipulation. He over recruited every year and he didn't know players were leaving? Something doesn't make sense. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
bigrod Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 He said the same thing to Seth Davis. I don't get it. If you're coaching a blue-blood program, you don't get a re-start. I don't think anybody expected an NCAA title the year after Cody and Vic left, but 17-15, 7th in the B1G and no postseason was ridiculous. And if "The Movement" -- except Yogi -- hadn't turned out to be such a massive flop, he would have been well-stocked to keep moving forward. The whole second start thing boggles my mind. Based on his record, it seems he wanted a restart roughly every 2-3 years. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app LamarCheeks, Josh and recker222000 3 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 59 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: He said the same thing to Seth Davis. I don't get it. If you're coaching a blue-blood program, you don't get a re-start. I don't think anybody expected an NCAA title the year after Cody and Vic left, but 17-15, 7th in the B1G and no postseason was ridiculous. And if "The Movement" -- except Yogi -- hadn't turned out to be such a massive flop, he would have been well-stocked to keep moving forward. The whole second start thing boggles my mind. The guy had the #4 recruiting class in the country coming in the year after Vic and Cody left and he's talking about how he should've hired a PR firm so fans would've gotten behind another rebuild? Give me a freakin break. No one was going to get on board with that dude. Big time programs are supposed to reload, but rebuild. If you didn't have the right guys then that's on you Tom. I've never seen someone refuse to accept responsibility for their failures like Tom Crean. LamarCheeks, schoosier, IUsafety and 3 others 6 Quote
BGleas Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The guy had the #4 recruiting class in the country coming in the year after Vic and Cody left and he's talking about how he should've hired a PR firm so fans would've gotten behind another rebuild? Give me a freakin break. No one was going to get on board with that dude. Big time programs are supposed to reload, but rebuild. If you didn't have the right guys then that's on you Tom. I've never seen someone refuse to accept responsibility for their failures like Tom Crean. Not to mention a top 10 class the year before Vic and Cody left as well. So he had consecutive top 10 classes to replace the Vic/Cody/Hulls/Watford group and they couldn't even make the NIT. Hoosierfan2017 and Alford Bailey 2 Quote
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