TOM CREAN FIRED

[recker222000 1,010]

I'll openly admit to being hopeful BUT pessimistic about this (hypothetical) hire.

I think after the last 15 years IU's "brand" has been sufficiently weakened that it desperately needs a home-run hire that gives it instant credibility, i.e., Stevens, Donovan or maybe S. Miller.

What I expect, if this hire actually happens, is someone like Archie or Holtmann--both of whom may one day be HOF coaches for all I know, but may not currently have enough clout to step in and immediately turn things around. Which is what the basketball program needs ASAP in my opinion.

Not sure this program can absorb yet another 3- or 4-year "rebuild" at this point in time. It would be better (if even possible, which it may not be) if the next hire brought someone who could immediately put IU in contention for the Romeo Langfords and Keion Brooks of the world.

No we cannot afford another rebuilt. Getting a guy like Romeo would solve that.

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[mdn82 25,510]

People like coherent, logical arguments not emotional drama. Bring metrics, counterpoints, and your A-game to the thread. 

So, if you fire Tom Crean after this year tell me again who is coaching next year?

People have told you. Plus there is close to 600 pages of that. You choose to ignore that.


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[CrossboneIU22 1,180]

It isn't a money issue. Wasn't two years ago w the buyout, isn't this year w the same thing, isn't a contract thing....it's just not a thing

I think he is talking about Donovan, not Creans contract.


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[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

People like coherent, logical arguments not emotional drama. Bring metrics, counterpoints, and your A-game to the thread. 

So, if you fire Tom Crean after this year tell me again who is coaching next year?

Ok...global, more forward thinking. Please expand.

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[mdn82 25,510]

People like coherent, logical arguments not emotional drama. Bring metrics, counterpoints, and your A-game to the thread. 

So, if you fire Tom Crean after this year tell me again who is coaching next year?

You want coherent, logical arguments? How about turning the ball over in right at 20% of our possessions in Crean's tenure? 1 in 5 possessions are just handed back to the other team. Only one year in 9 have we had a top 30 defense under Crean. You aren't winning a title without that. Or we have had 3 players since 2010 stay 4 years? Is that coherent enough for you? That is why there is no semblance of continuity.


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[ap2345 7,556]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

Didnt read back through everything this afternoon so sorry if this was already posted but I heard Alford was contacted to gauge interest.

 

Edit: Im not an insider and this wasnt a University source but a New Castle guy who knows Alford.

The question is did Alford have any interest in IU?

[WestCoastView 16]

Injuries matter. This team beat UNC and Kansas with a healthy squad, and no Hartman. Since Blackmon and Bryant are not NBA ready, and for their own good no agent deceives them, IUBB will be favored to win the Big 10 Championship and....

[WestCoastView 16]

Next year's IUBB team will be a force to be reckoned with. 

[JSHoosier 19,816]

Just now, WestCoastView said:

Injuries matter. This team beat UNC and Kansas with a healthy squad, and no Hartman. Since Blackmon and Bryant are not NBA ready, and for their own good no agent deceives them, IUBB will be favored to win the Big 10 Championship and....

This team was circling the drain before the injuries really hit.  That is no excuse.  Look at MSU's injuries and what Izzo is doing with them.

[CrossboneIU22 1,180]

You can replace the 'D' with a bunch of T's since we commit a gazillion turnovers and never use timeouts.

We need to put the D back in InDiana. No not defense, "D"onovan!


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[Alford Bailey 12,350]

4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

The question is did Alford have any interest in IU?

Dunno just heard he was contacted.

[Ryno6284 2,560]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Did you just like your own post?

Pauliewalnuts use to do that on the old site!  I would lmao when I would see that.  His were usually worth "liking" though!

[JSHoosier 19,816]

1 minute ago, WestCoastView said:

Next year's IUBB team will be a force to be reckoned with. 

With a good coach and this roster, sure.  We don't have a good coach.

[kreigh8 2,019]

1 minute ago, WestCoastView said:

Injuries matter. This team beat UNC and Kansas with a healthy squad, and no Hartman. Since Blackmon and Bryant are not NBA ready, and for their own good no agent deceives them, IUBB will be favored to win the Big 10 Championship and....

Stop. This team also lost to Nebraska on their own floor with OG playing 20+ minutes so lets not pretend they were playing great basketball before all these injuries seemed to hit. And Hartman hasn't played all year so let's so use that as a crutch for the poor play on display from 2 McDonald's All-American's and several other 4-star players. The injuries is just a cover up for a complete lack of direction on the court

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

1 minute ago, Ryno6284 said:

Pauliewalnuts use to do that on the old site!  I would lmao when I would see that.  His were usually worth "liking" though!

What is wrong with stepping back and admiring your own work?

[AZ Hoosier 6,535]

1 hour ago, WestCoastView said:

Injuries matter. This team beat UNC and Kansas with a healthy squad, and no Hartman. Since Blackmon and Bryant are not NBA ready, and for their own good no agent deceives them, IUBB will be favored to win the Big 10 Championship and....
 

This team also lost to IPFW and Nebraska at home with a healthy squad.

 

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Dunno just heard he was contacted.

From?

[Bowhunter 2,693]

I think with the right coach the team we have now could be really good next season. 

[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

So WestCoastView, if CTC is kept, will IU win the Big10 title next year? Will IU make it into the tournament next year? Will IU hang a banner next year? Will Crean recruit a top 5 class next year? Your answer would be about as speculative as asking us who would be CTC's replacement. To think anything else would be ILLOGICAL!

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[WestCoastView 16]

Point well taken, offense schemes are poor.