TOM CREAN FIRED

[bigrod 2,848]

I'm wondering.... TB, JBJ, ROJO, Juwan, Deron, CUJO....weren't these guys all top 50-75 ranked kids?

Absolutely no reason we should be falling off a cliff like this. This team still has talent, unlike most of the talking heads want us to believe.
The fact that we are still making the same mistakes we did at the beginning of the season, along with the fact that our biggest deficiency is point guard play, and that we have no point guard help coming next year either, all lie with the head coach.


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[madtownhoosier 39]

Typical Tom Crean style, we are up five with a few minutes to go. Ball goes to Thomas Bryant on the left wing and he jacks up a 3 with plenty of time on the shot clock.  Clang!  Minnny grabs the rebound and goes down and scores.  A four point swing.  Such stupid basketball, but we have been watching it for 9 years now.

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

23 minutes ago, madtownhoosier said:

Typical Tom Crean style, we are up five with a few minutes to go. Ball goes to Thomas Bryant on the left wing and he jacks up a 3 with plenty of time on the shot clock.  Clang!  Minnny grabs the rebound and goes down and scores.  A four point swing.  Such stupid basketball, but we have been watching it for 9 years now.

Glad I fell asleep during halftime.. Would have been another night of getting my blood pressure up and yelling at the TV for no reason.  

[JSHoosier 19,819]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

We are barley over .500, yikes. Actually, our cupcake schedule, I consider us under .500. Wins vs Eastern Ohio College don't count for anything. 

 

I didn't watch the second half but I assume it was the same old same old. Just another win for the tank family. No way he survives this season if we continue to lose. NO WAY! 

Eastern Ohio College wasn't enough of a cupcake.  It was Eastern Western A&M Tech of the Blind and Deaf.

[AZ Hoosier 6,544]

3 hours ago, Treesh said:

We are barley over .500, yikes. Actually, our cupcake schedule, I consider us under .500. Wins vs Eastern Ohio College don't count for anything. 
 

 

 

Exactly. Cupcake schedule included:

UMass - Lowell, Mississippi Valley State, Houston Baptist, IPFW, Southern Illinois Edwardsville, Delaware State, Liberty, Southeast Missouri State and Austin Peay.

Indiana is 15-12 WITH them, but only 7-11 without them.



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[wesley storlie 3]

9 hours ago, Feathery said:

He wasnt even starting when he got hurt. The constant spinning to defend the results is getting old too. He was the guy to watch bc he has pro POTENTIAL, but thats what it is POTENTIAL. During the game they showed some majorly skewed stats with and without OG. Yeah we scored more and they scored less with OG, did they not see the non conference slate of oppoenent where the stats get padded? Hartman injury is a nonissue. If yoi can beat UNC and Kansas without him, then its a non issue against anyone. This team sucks bc of the coaching (system he runs). 

He wasn't starting because he was already hurt with a sprained ankle...

[JSHoosier 19,819]

9 hours ago, Milldawg12 said:

Top 10 - We can dream can't we:

1. Stevens
2. Billy Donovan
3. Tony Bennett
4. Dana Altman
5. Gregg Marshall
6. Buzz Williams
7. Chris Collins
8. Steve Alford
9. Archie Miller - Dayton
10. Matt McCall - Chatanooga


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Some of these names, yeesh.  If that's what we had to choose from we'd be just as well off keeping the clown we already have.

Dana Altman, really?  The guy is Tom Crean 2.0, coaching for 30 years and his record is very unimpressive, with a slightly better but still crappy defense usually.

[Trish 11,505]

9 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

 

 

Exactly. Cupcake schedule included:

UMass - Lowell,, Mississippi Valley State, Houston Baptist, IPFW, Southern Illinois Edwardsville, Delaware State, Liberty, Southeast Missouri State and Austin Peay.

Indiana is 15-12 WITH them, but only 7-11 without them.



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Send this to Glass right now. 

[FortWayneHoosier 5,910]

I'm all in boys, not that I've ever been a crean fan, but this is the first time in my IU fandom I have given up on a season. This team is done and this coach needs canned.


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[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

My two cents as far as a dream list are concerned:

1. Stevens

2. Donovan

3. Bennett

4. Few

5. Archie Miller

6. Marshall

7. Collins

8. Wojo

9. Enfield

10. Holtsmann 

[JSHoosier 19,819]

9 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Now that McCarthy isn't getting paid by IU anymore he is going in on Crean on twitter. Laughed at Crean saying his number one job is to be the team cheerleader, said Crean is always late to postgame interviews, said 70 percent of the time I wonder what is going through his mind, and a few other things. You guyz get it. I find it hilarious and the fact Crean really said his number one job is to be their cheerleader makes me wonder how he has made it through any professional type meetings with his bosses.

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Crean thinks his #1 job is to be their cheerleader?  That explains a lot, unfortunately.

[pumpfake 3,930]

I think right now Donovan would be the #1 Grand Slam choice (however realistic).  Beyond that, we've screwed up 3 times post-RMK and it's crucial that we get it right.  Because of that, IMO we MUST get a guy that has proven he can win at a high level (the higher the better).  It sends chills down my spine when I see names like Buzz Williams or Dane Fife bandied about.  Williams hasn't done jack crap and Dane Fife hasn't proven anything yet (not to mention he was instrumental in saddling us with Mike Davis).  Nope, there's a handful of coaches that are all but guaranteed to be vast upgrades over CTC and there's no reason to reach or settle.  We're at a perfect time for finally getting our next great coach - the program is clean, the aura of the Bob Knight era has faded, top notch facilities and fan support. One other possible (?) factor is any new coach may not feel guilty for taking the job of a coach already under contract if stories of CTC not being well liked among his peers is true. 

If not now, then when?

[Milldawg12 51]

Some of these names, yeesh.  If that's what we had to choose from we'd be just as well off keeping the clown we already have.

Dana Altman, really?  The guy is Tom Crean 2.0, coaching for 30 years and his record is very unimpressive, with a slightly better but still crappy defense usually.

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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[Stuhoo 79,639]

WHOA NELLY...Alex McCarthy; very recently departed IUBB reporter with a scathing Twitter exchange. McCarthy's tweets are in red:

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Stu Jackson @Stuart_Jackson1

Crean on postgame radio: "They're crushed. My number one job is to be their cheerleader." #iubb

 

CrimsonCast ‏@CrimsonCast  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy Tell us how you really feel, Alex!

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @CrimsonCast I'm sorry, but he really needs to think more before he says some of these things

 Tilly In Bloomington ‏@BigLiciousT  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy @CrimsonCast By some you mean most, and by most you mean all.

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @BigLiciousT @CrimsonCast So many things. Most of the things

 Tilly In Bloomington ‏@BigLiciousT  10h10 hours ago

 @akmccarthy I mean, you're allowed to speak freely now, right????

 Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @BigLiciousT Very much so. And I'd say maybe 70 percent of the things he says make me wonder what the hell is going on up there

 

Nathan BrownV
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@akmccarthy I'm already liking the "opinionated because he doesn't cover IU anymore" Alex

 

Alex McCarthy ‏@akmccarthy  10h10 hours ago

 @TDSnathanbrown This Alex has been a long time coming
 

 

[Stuhoo 79,639]

6 minutes ago, Milldawg12 said:

 

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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Bryce Drew is by far the preferred Drew. 

After the Hanner deportation debacle, I have a very hard time believing that we will consider anyone in the Drew family.

 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

 

Bryce Drew is by far the preferred Drew. 

After the Hanner deportation debacle, I have a very hard time believing that we will consider anyone in the Drew family.

 

I don't want us to go near anyone involved with Baylor athletics. I have a hard time believing all of the issues on the football team are limited to just the football team...


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[JustWinWoody 3,364]

21 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

See the problem with your sarcasm is sweet sixteen to most schools is great. It means your a top 16 school. So you argue Crean isn't top 75 then say he will be in the sweet sixteen elsewhere. Top 40 coach as I said. Is someone who makes the tourney 6-7 years out of 10 and makes a run of a game or two every now and then. Not like I said he was awesome and the best coach ever lol. The problem is IU is above that so yes I still want Crean gone like most but let's not act like he is gonna be coaching jv in high school.

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I do believe expectations at IU are high compared to most other schools, and they should be.  As Crean said when he was hired "THIS IS INDIANA!" (and all the rest) so when a coach signs his name on the contract to coach at IT, he (or she?) should know the passionate fan base will have very high expectations and expect to win consistently and advance deeply in the tournament every year.  Are they unrealistic expectations?  Depends on who you talk to but I am not a believer of dropping standard of the program just because of parity in college basketball.  I don't remember arguing that Crean was any ranking so not sure where that came from.  Must be mistaking me for another poster.  

[Trish 11,505]

8 minutes ago, Milldawg12 said:

 

Altman is 167-66 at Oregon which is mostly a football school who has to deal with Zona, UCLA, Cal.......Remember he was also the one that out Creighton on the map, so he has some Midwest ties.

Scott Drew is another one doing it at a football school. Look what he has done at Baylor.........used to coach in Indiana (Valpo).

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/sports/ncaabasketball/14baylor.html

 

No thanks..

[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

Look, I want to be like Duke, Kensucky, Kansas. I want us to be feared again! No balls, no blue chips! Offer up the cash and go after a proven impact coach. Stevens isn't going to leave with what Boston is doing. Donovan is the one I would go after. OKC is not what he thought he was getting. Want to make a splash, then make a big one. The fan base would go nuts and the rest of the CBB world would be talking about Indiana!!

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[HoosierMatty 448]

I have heard shady things about the Drews. I don't want to deal with that kind of baggage.