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jdailey1981

TOM CREAN FIRED

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UNC had wide open threes all night long. Crean will never get us a ncaa championship.  BIG regular season championships, but nothing else.  I hope the fan base isn't satisfied with that.  But of course, he does just enough enough to survive another year.  Maybe someday he will have as much success as mike brey

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Just the typical people pissed off at the world and lashing out at the wrong person. No one in the country could have stopped UNC tonight. No one. As Treesh said in another thread (all though in a different context), we ran into the MonStars tonight. And we didn't have Go-go Gadget Jordan for the game winner.

I think Troy drank all of Jordan's secret stuff and didn't share with the rest of the boys.

Impressive season by Crean and boys considering they looked like a solid NIT contender after Maui.disappointing we had to witness another sweet 16 blowout.

Nonetheless, I'm beyond excited to get back to Bloomington. No place like home.

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Just the typical people pissed off at the world and lashing out at the wrong person. No one in the country could have stopped UNC tonight. No one. As Treesh said in another thread (all though in a different context), we ran into the MonStars tonight. And we didn't have Go-go Gadget Jordan for the game winner.

Your ignorant types of posts in which you label people just to push your obtuse thoughts forward are really sad. This is at worst mind you Coach Creans second best team in his eight year tenure. This is not about just one game, it's about him not producing one team that's even remotely close to the team that beat us today. For three million dollars a season and the amount we spend for resources and recruiting we should be doing a lot better than this.

I know he's a nice guy but he simply can't get over the hump and at times a fresh face is needed to change the image of our program. We as a fan base have gone complacent and that's why I know he'll be back next year without a second thought.

But don't you dare devoid other people's opinions just because they don't align with yours.

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Go back and watch the game again and tell me what Crean coulda done different. Paige got a couple nice looks but UNC was moving the ball great and we were focused, rightly so, on the interior. Crean sat Z3 when he wasnt hitting because he is an obvious liability on D. Good move. We had many looks that didnt go and then the foul situation. You cant play guys 40 min so I was fine with substitutions tonite. I honestly thought we as prepared as we were against UK but we all knew we needed a really good shooting night to beat UNC. UNC beats Kansas or any team left last night.

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Your ignorant types of posts in which you label people just to push your obtuse thoughts forward are really sad. This is at worst mind you Coach Creans second best team in his eight year tenure. This is not about just one game, it's about him not producing one team that's even remotely close to the team that beat us today. For three million dollars a season and the amount we spend for resources and recruiting we should be doing a lot better than this.

I know he's a nice guy but he simply can't get over the hump and at times a fresh face is needed to change the image of our program. We as a fan base have gone complacent and that's why I know he'll be back next year without a second thought.

But don't you dare devoid other people's opinions just because they don't align with yours.

Didn't label anyone. Just said you're lashing out at Crean when no one was going to beat UNC last night. By all accounts, it was a very good season. As many have said before, next year should be a year that builds on this year's success. So we should contend for the B1G again next year, and at least make it to the second weekend of the tournament.

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Go back and watch the game again and tell me what Crean coulda done different. Paige got a couple nice looks but UNC was moving the ball great and we were focused, rightly so, on the interior. Crean sat Z3 when he wasnt hitting because he is an obvious liability on D. Good move. We had many looks that didnt go and then the foul situation. You cant play guys 40 min so I was fine with substitutions tonite. I honestly thought we as prepared as we were against UK but we all knew we needed a really good shooting night to beat UNC. UNC beats Kansas or any team left last night.

Absolutely everything that he just said. I don't think it would have mattered with good refs. They were absolutely horrible, but frankly unc couldn't miss at all. I remember looking up at the box score during play and it said that north Carolina was 13 of 20. And I could have swore that I had not seen them miss a damn shot at that point. When you are down by 18, and the player who averages 33 percent from three is shooting 100 percent, what can you do? Everything bounced unc's way last night,everything. Not creans fault in this one. UNC was just better, for one night

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Before the season I wanted a Big Ten Title and an Elite 8. We got a championship and came a game away from what I wanted as a fan months ago. Given the terrible draw I'm ok with that.

Before the year I also was saying this is a 2 year process. We were set up to be good this year and we were. Next season is the one that is the decider. Will we falter like we did after the last sweet 16 or do we sustain and have consistency? If we falter, then I can see a move being made. If we are a upper echelon/big ten champions, then Crean is moved further away from the hot seat.

As for me unless we make a move and land Stevens, Donovan, or Marshall, I would rather keep Crean at this point.

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7 hours ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Before tonight, we were 22-0 when scoring 80 points or more in a game. UNC had the best shooting night from beyond the arc of their lives.

I'm glad to see people like Alford Bailey, JS, and Old Friend looking at this with reason. No one is happy that Crean hasn't progressed beyond a Sweet Sixteen, but this was a very good year, and to open up this thread again after facing one of the best two teams in the country, after beating Kentucky, is absurd.

I'm kind of puzzled with your logic.  UNC was a 1 seed, we were a 5.  If we had managed to win this game it would have been an upset (and possibly taken OUR best shooting night of the season), but the fact that they played their best game makes the loss acceptable.  On the other hand we beat a 4 seed Kentucky team that was arguably their weakest team in the last 5 years and that is an accomplishment?  This was a great season - if you have, say, Purdue's standards.  But for a program that was, and wants to claim to still be, one of the elites it OK at best.

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I wouldn't call a 5 seed above expectations. Look at the entire regular season and there is no way that is above expectations

I would call a five seed(under seeded btw) with one of your best players missing almost the entire year and dismissing three players before the year a pretty good season. We won the B1G and made it to the sweet sixteen by beating Kentucky. Yea we lost, but we lost to probably the best team in the country and honestly if they keep playing like that no one will beat them.

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I read some of your guys post & just shake my head . You talk of your bromance with Brad Stevens and how winning a Big10 title doesn't mean anything . I also hear you talk about getting back to elite status as they flash on the tv screen that Indiana has 5 national titles & North Carolina has 5 . I wonder maybe if we had imaginary classes & some escorts for our players if we could reach that elite level

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I read some of your guys post & just shake my head . You talk of your bromance with Brad Stevens and how winning a Big10 title doesn't mean anything . I also hear you talk about getting back to elite status as they flash on the tv screen that Indiana has 5 national titles & North Carolina has 5 . I wonder maybe if we had imaginary classes & some escorts for our players if we could reach that elite level

When was Indiana's last one again?

We do realize the kids in college right now are the last ones old enough to remember our last championship game right? Last Elite Eight and Final Four too.

So, great, we have history. That's what it feels like we are sometimes.

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I'm kind of puzzled with your logic.  UNC was a 1 seed, we were a 5.  If we had managed to win this game it would have been an upset (and possibly taken OUR best shooting night of the season), but the fact that they played their best game makes the loss acceptable.  On the other hand we beat a 4 seed Kentucky team that was arguably their weakest team in the last 5 years and that is an accomplishment?  This was a great season - if you have, say, Purdue's standards.  But for a program that was, and wants to claim to still be, one of the elites it OK at best.

There is no way that this Kentucky team was the worst in the last 5 years. They lost first round of the NIT a few years ago, and were rated as the 6th best team(I think) by pomeroy this year. We ran into a hot team and that's what happens in March. We'll be back next year, and hopefully we'll be playing on Saturday and Sunday next time.

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Typical fan reaction going here. When we lose, it's Crean's fault. When we win, it's because the players played great and shot well, and no because Crean or any of the other coaches had anything to do with it.

Crean or any other coaches, can't shoot and make the shots for the players, Crean, or any other coaches, also can't play defense or contest shots for the players. UNC was beating anyone tonight (maybe even some bottom NBA teams) I agree Crean has underperformed SOME. But I also have not seen anyone mention we made a late season run and won 2 tourney games without, arguably, our second best scorer and best on ball defender.

First reactions after a loss and realizing the season is over are always harsh. But let's remember the coaching job Crean turned out after Maui and at Duke when people were ready to fire him on the spot. He responded to adversity just like the players did. Give credit where credit is due and understand what kind of coaching job we saw over the course of the entire season, and not just the last 3 weeks or so.

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I'm kind of puzzled with your logic.  UNC was a 1 seed, we were a 5.  If we had managed to win this game it would have been an upset (and possibly taken OUR best shooting night of the season), but the fact that they played their best game makes the loss acceptable.  On the other hand we beat a 4 seed Kentucky team that was arguably their weakest team in the last 5 years and that is an accomplishment?  This was a great season - if you have, say, Purdue's standards.  But for a program that was, and wants to claim to still be, one of the elites it OK at best.

Truly have no idea what you're saying. It was a very good season. We had a chance to beat UNC, but they came out shooting hotter than they have all season. Therefore, we stood no chance. We won the B1G and made it to the Sweet Sixteen. Upsetting Kentucky on the way was a nice bonus.

This program isn't elite right now, but it has the potential. Excited for next year.

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Truly have no idea what you're saying. It was a very good season. We had a chance to beat UNC, but they came out shooting hotter than they have all season. Therefore, we stood no chance. We won the B1G and made it to the Sweet Sixteen. Upsetting Kentucky on the way was a nice bonus.

This program isn't elite right now, but it has the potential. Excited for next year.

This season was a poop sandwich: started the season horribly, played well in the middle and ended tourney play 2-2 with a loss as a one seed in the first game of the bigten and a blowout loss to UNC.

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This season was a poop sandwich: started the season horribly, played well in the middle and ended tourney play 2-2 with a loss as a one seed in the first game of the bigten and a blowout loss to UNC.

I think a lot of you guys should have your taste buds checked out if everything tastes like a poop sandwich

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This season was a poop sandwich: started the season horribly, played well in the middle and ended tourney play 2-2 with a loss as a one seed in the first game of the bigten and a blowout loss to UNC.

I disagree some :) it started out terribly, but ended well for the most part. Crean took a broken team and really turned them into a contender. In the post-season we were without our 2 starting guards, and the most under appreciated player who was our glue guy hurt in Hartman. We weren't a deep team after all these injuries, and it hurt us. Our backup PG was Niego/Williams/Hartman/Morgan.

Could it have went better, absolutely, but CREAN rallied this team and turned them into a contender. Upsets happen all the time, and it absolutely sucked losing to Michigan the way we did. Just ask MSU. It happens. This is Crean's best coaching job to date IMO.

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For all those who are disappointed by this season, go ahead and read this article.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2016/03/26/doyel-indiana-next-year-could-year-if/82288506/

We lost our leading scorer, and our best defender missed 5 of our last 7 games, including the loss to UNC, arguably the best team in the country.

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Here is my thing your all talking about how they hit a high percentage of threes and no one was beating them last night. That's what we relied on all year to win games. Most of our blowout wins and some of our close wins was because we hit 10 or more threes in that game. That usually does not happen and if that's the type of team you are you end up losing in the long run because one bad game in 6 and your going home. Also we hit 13 of 31 for almost 41%.

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