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IU Basketball: Who is leaving? Who is staying?


IndyHutch
  • It's clearly a question on the minds of most Indiana basketball fans now that the 2015-16 season has come to an end. Of the players with eligibility remaining, who will be in an Indiana uniform come the fall of 2016? Here is my take.

Let me begin by saying this is speculation. Educated speculation, but speculation nonetheless.

If there's one thing I've learned in my 18 years covering Indiana basketball it's that nothing is as simple as you would think it is. 

Players come and players go. Players that you think aren't transferring end up doing just that. Players that you're sure are definitely gone end up returning for another season.

And so until we have heard a final decision I won't go to the bank with any of this. But it's late March and once you're eliminated from the NCAA Tournament this is the kind of topic that begins weighing on the minds of Hoosier Nation.

Should I stay or should I go?

Let's throw out some names and get some opinions. Please feel free to weigh in on any of these guys. If you think I'm wrong, say so. If you think I'm right, you can agree, too. But I'm hoping we get some good discussion going on this one.

1. TROY WILLIAMS

Options: He could go to the NBA, go overseas, graduate from IU at the end of this semester and transfer to another school and play right away or return to Indiana for his final season of eligibility.

What I think he'll do: My guess is that Troy will be looking to collect a paycheck. Whether that's in the NBA or overseas, I'm not sure. But I'm guessing he's gone. I think the least possible option would be to transfer to another school. I think if he decides to play his final year of eligibility he would do so at Indiana. That's just my feeling. Is he ready for the NBA? I don't think so but no one is asking me either. Something just tells me though that if he hears any positive feedback at all from NBA folks that he'll probably make himself eligible for the NBA Draft. Again, it's just an opinion.

2. THOMAS BRYANT

Options: He go make himself eligible for the NBA Draft or he could return for his sophomore season at IU.

What I think he'll do: I think Bryant comes back. I think he likes school and he sees that he can improve if he sticks around and puts in the effort that he would need to put in. If he has a big year as a sophomore I think he's probably gone, just like Cody Zeller did. I know that Bryant has gotten some love from some of the draft boards but I just think if he had one more solid season that he could do a lot for his draft stock. Will he listen to what all of the NBA people have to say? Absolutely. But I think he's a pretty smart young man and he'll look at next year and realize how much of a dominant force he could be on that team.

3. JAMES BLACKMON JR.

Options: He could make himself eligible for the NBA Draft, transfer to another school and sit out a year, or return to Indiana.

What I think he'll do: I've heard the transfer rumors and they just don't make sense to me. I think Blackmon Jr. really has two options: He either goes to the NBA or he returns for one more season at Indiana. And again, I think the highest percentage here has him returning to IU. I can't imagine a lot of NBA people telling him that he should come out after what transpired from an injury standpoint this season. But the transfer rumors just make no sense to me at all. The only way he would transfer would be if he opted to go the Division II route but why would you do that? I can't imagine him transferring to a D1 school and sitting out another year. It just makes absolutely no sense to me. I think he's back in an IU uniform next season.

4. OG ANUNOBY

Options: Declare for the NBA Draft or return to IU for his sophomore season.

What I think he'll do: I know people cringe just seeing his name here but OG has been getting some love. I think he'll be at Indiana next season though. He may even be there a few more years. I think with a few more years of seasoning, OG could be a dynamic player both at this level and the next one. Again, I'm sure he'll listen to whatever people are saying but my guess is that he'll be back and will be part of the starting rotation.

5. TIM PRILLER

Options: Stay or go.

What I think he'll do: The only reason I put him on here is because I was on a radio show in Indy on Monday and was asked about him by Jake Query on 1260 WNDE. My answer there was depending on who is returning and what the scholarship numbers situation is, I guess he could be a casualty. But I really don't know. I think a lot will depend on what players leave and what players decide to stay. Unless you see him contributing at some point to this IU basketball team other than being the Victory Cigar, though, I just question how you can continue to allow him to occupy a roster spot.

So those are five players to think about. What do you think? 

Do you they stay or do they go?

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I'm almost positive it's not even allowed. Maybe Hutch could comment but I don't think you can keep a player on and take away his scholarship. I thought I remembered that from when people were suggesting that Cody might pay his own way his Sophomore year to keep the scholarship numbers right.  I think rule tries to limit the possibility of alumni donating money to families, etc. 

Didn't Bryce Alford give his scholly up and is technically a walk on at UCLA?

They have several rules about this but it seems teams find a way around them. UCONN was over the scholarship numbers a few years ago when Andre Drummond was an incoming recruit. He decided, because he would make millions the following year, to pay his own way. I believe there is a rule where you can't actively recruit walk-ons.

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1 hour ago, BlueDevil2aHoosier said:

Didn't Bryce Alford give his scholly up and is technically a walk on at UCLA?

I think that's an option for the upcoming season based on this from the LA Times November of 2015: 

Bryce Alford has a scholarship to play basketball. Steve Alford would prefer that he did not. So, unless UCLA loses any underclassmen next season, Bryce Alford will become a walk-on, Steve Alford said Tuesday.  The planned move is because of UCLA’s talented four-man recruiting class, which would put the Bruins one above the scholarship limit of 13 next season. One perk of coaching your son, Steve Alford said, is that you effectively have one extra scholarship spot.

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Kyle Kuric gave up his scholarship at UofL and became a walk on... This was a few years back and rules may have changed but I don't think there is any rules against it.

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Again scholarships are only given by a year by year basis . No exceptions and it's not prillars choice if he wants to give it up. It's coach Creans decision and that's it.

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10 minutes ago, Bittersince87 said:

Again scholarships are only given by a year by year basis . No exceptions and it's not prillars choice if he wants to give it up. It's coach Creans decision and that's it.

http://iuhoosiers.com/news/2014/6/27/IU_Announces_Unprecedented_Student_Athlete_Bill_of_Rights.aspx

" IU Athletics is also making a Four Year Scholarship Commitment to every full head count scholarship student-athlete regardless of sport entering Indiana University to ensure that they have the time needed to earn an undergraduate degree. No athletic scholarship will be reduced because of injury, illness, physical or mental condition, or on the basis of a student-athlete's ability, performance or contribution to the team's success. While four year scholarships were made permissible by the NCAA in 2011, most member schools have only selectively provided them"

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http://iuhoosiers.com/news/2014/6/27/IU_Announces_Unprecedented_Student_Athlete_Bill_of_Rights.aspx

" IU Athletics is also making a Four Year Scholarship Commitment to every full head count scholarship student-athlete regardless of sport entering Indiana University to ensure that they have the time needed to earn an undergraduate degree. No athletic scholarship will be reduced because of injury, illness, physical or mental condition, or on the basis of a student-athlete's ability, performance or contribution to the team's success. While four year scholarships were made permissible by the NCAA in 2011, most member schools have only selectively provided them"

Under the bill of rights they can stay four years but that does not mean they can play for a team. In a sense they would be converted from athletic scholarships to academic scholarships. In order to do this kids can't play with the team in order to avoid ncaa sanctions.

That being said I really have no problem if priller stays or leaves.

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32 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

From reading the latest scout assessments on TB and Troy on ITH, sounds like TB will be encouraged to come back to IU for another year.

But whose assessments are they?

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@janitorinthegym: Workouts going strong...But one guy is shooting a different ball and having a good time in town every night that might mean something #iubb

Yikes.

Enjoy the mad ants

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Has anyone figured out the identity of @janitorinthegym? Seems to be the most plugged in insider that I've seen. Been correct time and time again. Talked to me about Dwayne Wade and the Heat coming in for practice way in advance. Been right about so much stuff. Really wish he/she still posted here.

Always posting Jordan Hulls stuff.

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Has anyone figured out the identity of @janitorinthegym? Seems to be the most plugged in insider that I've seen. Been correct time and time again. Talked to me about Dwayne Wade and the Heat coming in for practice way in advance. Been right about so much stuff. Really wish he/she still posted here.

Always posting Jordan Hulls stuff.

Yep he is very plugged in. He has done himself favors by not posting as much here.

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In my opinion, Troy leaving isn't necessarily a bad thing. Talented yes. But I don't think he will ever live up to his talent.

We just lose such a dynamo athlete. Some of the things he did to spark the team this year... Wow.

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1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

We just lose such a dynamo athlete. Some of the things he did to spark the team this year... Wow.

Some of the bone-headed plays he made to spark the other team too were just as important.  Some of Troy's bad, out of control shots were effectively turnovers.

OG can be that catalyst this year, while also playing better defense and taking better shots. 

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We just lose such a dynamo athlete. Some of the things he did to spark the team this year... Wow.

Lol wow me all you want but after 3 years of senseless turnovers and terrible defense, sorry if I don't cry if he declares.

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Lol wow me all you want but after 3 years of senseless turnovers and terrible defense, sorry if I don't cry if he declares.

I'm hard pressed to find a game he lost for Indiana this year. I can find a good bunch of games where he was the catalyst for a big run. Tell me about his turnovers and defense all you want, I'm looking at what he added to the W column.

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I'm hard pressed to find a game he lost for Indiana this year. I can find a good bunch of games where he was the catalyst for a big run. Tell me about his turnovers and defense all you want, I'm looking at what he added to the W column.

He has lost us countless games. For example, against a team like North Carolina he had (if I remember correctly) 0 points at the end of the first half. Similarly, his defense was very average in that game. He was about as useful as Zeisloft in that first half, and also committed turnovers.

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