Alford Bailey Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Iowa is the best the west had to offer….. Quote
Josh Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 You have to have Michigan and Washington. Florida State's a Power 5 undefeated conference champion with a fantastic defense. They're in. The fourth? Alabama? No. Texas belongs in over them. Georgia? Ehhh, their SOS was weak and their game today was too. Oregon? They lost twice to Washington. I think #4 goes to Ohio State or Texas. No SEC team this year. They simply don't deserve it. J34 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, DoctorP said: I think you’ll get your wish. Bama is in over UGA, and if you put in Bama you HAVE to put in Texas. FSU and OSU are both outside looking in. Would be an awful break for the Seminoles It would be a terrible break for them. Probably the first year that someone can truly feel “left out” right? I don’t remember this much debate on the 4th spot in the decade we’ve been doing this. Quote
Demo Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, DoctorP said: I think you’ll get your wish. Bama is in over UGA, and if you put in Bama you HAVE to put in Texas. FSU and OSU are both outside looking in. Would be an awful break for the Seminoles I’ll be pretty shocked if you aren’t right. Assume it will go 1) Michigan. 2) Washington. 3) Texas. 4) Alabama. I just completely disagree with it. That an undefeated team P5 team can be left out for, not 1, but 2 1-loss teams, no. And I hate the whole best vs most deserving argument. The idea of most deserving has a subjective element to it, but just going with “the best” is completely subjective. What if I think Oregon’s better than Texas(I don’t)? Doesn’t matter if they have 2 losses, I just think they’re better. It’s a complete get out of jail free card for the committee to go whatever way they want with no accountability at all. And that’s always gonna benefit the biggest dog in the fight, which in this case is Bama. They would never have the balls to leave the SEC out. ok, done ranting. J34, thebigweave, go iu bb and 1 other 4 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 My opinion... 1. Michigan 2. Washington 3. Florida State 4. Texas Committee WILL put in Georgia AND/OR Bama. They can't leave out an SEC school, it's against their religion and would go against their SEC gods. LamarCheeks and J34 2 Quote
Josh Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I hate the argument that Alabama beat a team that won 29 straight or the last 2 Natty's. This Georgia team did neither. So many players have moved on from that lazy statement. This Alabama team that was a miracle play away from losing to a pitiful Auburn team also was whooped at home. This Georgia team had a bad SOS and had damn near nothing to do with the last two. SEC, the exit is to the left. See you next year RaceToTheTop, Rico, hoopsta007 and 1 other 4 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hovadipo said: Just a reminder - the committee “claims” (do with that what you will) that their job is to pick the 4 BEST teams, not the 4 most deserving. Meaning, to me, that they can do whatever tf they want with this thing. If it were truly the 4 best teams, tomorrow they’d be announcing Michigan, Georgia, Bama, and Ohio State. My ideal playoff would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama as a fan of the sport. I’m a “what have you done for me lately” guy and if not for Travis’ injury, FSU gets the nod over Bama. That Texas/Bama/UGA convoluted mess is…….a mess. They say they pick the 4 next, but every year they pick the most deserving. Greg McElroy pointed it out on Tuesday during the CFP show and Galloway got all huffy for some reason. Quote
hoopsta007 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I don’t see the love for Texas improving their standing so much by beating an OK St team that got destroyed by South Alabama at home. Texas may end up being a top four team but that really isn’t super impressive Quote
LamarCheeks Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: I don’t see the love for Texas improving their standing so much by beating an OK St team that got destroyed by South Alabama at home. Texas may end up being a top four team but that really isn’t super impressive I think the argument is that if you take Alabama, you have to take Texas. The two played and Texas won by 10 — in Tuscaloosa. Quote
Rico Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 The only way an undefeated power conference team should get left out is when there are 4 other undefeated power conference teams. That doesn't apply this year nor will it apply next year. Alford Bailey 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 The committee likely will factor FSU not having its QB1 into its decision — at least that will be the convenient excuse. I almost would have the opposite take: to win their final two games -- one a conference title game -- with their second- and third-string QBs shows their strength as a team. But I'm about 95 percent certain the committee won't have the guts to exclude Alabama. A college football playoff without an SEC team would be blasphemy in the NCAA's eyes. go iu bb and J34 2 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 It’s about money honey. Not near as many fans wearing Washington t shirts as Georgia or Alabama. Gotta have one of those two. Quote
go iu bb Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Hovadipo said: Just a reminder - the committee “claims” (do with that what you will) that their job is to pick the 4 BEST teams, not the 4 most deserving. Meaning, to me, that they can do whatever tf they want with this thing. If it were truly the 4 best teams, tomorrow they’d be announcing Michigan, Georgia, Bama, and Ohio State. My ideal playoff would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama as a fan of the sport. I’m a “what have you done for me lately” guy and if not for Travis’ injury, FSU gets the nod over Bama. That Texas/Bama/UGA convoluted mess is…….a mess. Ohio State probably won't even be in the mix. Your ideal playoff is the one that will likely happen. If it doesn't it'll be because Washington also gets left out to put Georgia in but I have a hard time believing they'd leave out 2 undefeated P5 champions. FSU is understandable. FSU and Washington? May as well change the name to the SEC Invitational. thebigweave 1 Quote
Rico Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, go iu bb said: Ohio State probably won't even be in the mix. Your ideal playoff is the one that will likely happen. If it doesn't it'll be because Washington also gets left out to put Georgia in but I have a hard time believing they'd leave out 2 undefeated P5 champions. FSU is understandable. FSU and Washington? May as well change the name to the SEC Invitational. The committee has never left an undefeated power conference team out of the CFP. Quote
johnsoniu Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Rico said: The committee has never left an undefeated power conference team out of the CFP. They will in a few hours, using FSUs qb situation and SOS as reasons. And they won’t care one bit about setting a precedent, expansion next year renders that a moot point thebigweave, go iu bb, mamasa and 1 other 4 Quote
go iu bb Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rico said: The committee has never left an undefeated power conference team out of the CFP. There's a first time for everything and I think this year will be that. The committee doesn't have the balls (and probably doesn't even want) to leave the SEC out. FSU without their starting QB is just the excuse they need. Quote
Rico Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, johnsoniu said: They will in a few hours, using FSUs qb situation and SOS as reasons. And they won’t care one bit about setting a precedent, expansion next year renders that a moot point Well I wouldn't bet on that. Quote
IUHoosierJoe Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Hovadipo said: Just a reminder - the committee “claims” (do with that what you will) that their job is to pick the 4 BEST teams, not the 4 most deserving. Meaning, to me, that they can do whatever tf they want with this thing. If it were truly the 4 best teams, tomorrow they’d be announcing Michigan, Georgia, Bama, and Ohio State. My ideal playoff would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama as a fan of the sport. I’m a “what have you done for me lately” guy and if not for Travis’ injury, FSU gets the nod over Bama. That Texas/Bama/UGA convoluted mess is…….a mess. Agree with this. I'm not sure it's ever been really clear, either with the football or basketball selection committees, what they mean by the "best" teams. I've noticed in interviews when they are asked how they determined how one team is better than another, they actually go right back to comparing resumes. Hoosierfan2017 and Hovadipo 2 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 The committee isn't even going to consider the sign stealing debacle. Quote
cbp4iu Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Personally I see no way you can leave Texas out. Would argue had they beaten Oklahoma they might be #1. Quote
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