College Football Thread

[Lebowski]

Yeah, the whole boycott the Tech sports department never even crossed my mind. I think it's pretty brilliant. Because, man, letting him play is really bad. And I'd be saying this if he were still slinging it for IUFB. But I'd have a hard time believing Coach Cig would even have him on the roster at this point. 

[go iu bb]

23 hours ago, Demo said:

Have been pretty amazed at the number of people who have already moved on to the, “What’s wrong with betting on your team to WIN?” position. Putting aside that Sorsby apparently bet against IU a couple of times, because who wouldn’t have, I’ve been throwing out there the scenario that if   TTU is -10 and Sorsby takes the points, whips a couple of touchdown throws over his guys heads and they win by 6 why would that not be cool with them since he didn’t throw the game?
Crickets

There's that and then the aspect of what happens when they lose more than they can afford? Then scenarios like that become more likely or flat out throwing a game.

[Lebowski]

I found this interesting. @Stuhoo curious to know your thoughts about it and if it has legs to bypass the courts ruling?

[AZ Hoosier]

15 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I found this interesting. @Stuhoo curious to know your thoughts about it and if it has legs to bypass the courts ruling?

(Not Stu, but...)

Reading his arguments on X as subsequent posts to the above, he makes a strong case for bypassing the court ruling, IMO. I do not think for a moment that this matter is settled, the latest court ruling notwithstanding. 

[Brass Cannon]

43 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

This is such a losing battle for Texas Tech. Absolutely no one outside of Lubbock is on their side.

There's no amount of money Cody Campbell can spend on PR that will put people in their camp.

They'll probably have to go with the least bad option of paying him his NIL and revenue share, but just put him as QB3 on the depth chart.

And somebody correct me if I am wrong. Even if he’s allowed to play the CFP voters can choose to punish them by ranking them super low and leaving them out the playoffs. 

[Home Jersey]

Don't even care if Sorsby plays at this rate (doubt he will). We'd smoke em in the CFP with or without Sorsby. 

[American HoosierX]

45 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

And somebody correct me if I am wrong. Even if he’s allowed to play the CFP voters can choose to punish them by ranking them super low and leaving them out the playoffs. 

Pretty sure if they win their conference they would get an automatic bid.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, American HoosierX said:

Pretty sure if they win their conference they would get an automatic bid.

Oh yeah you are right.  They changed that this year after the JMU disaster 

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Don't even care if Sorsby plays at this rate (doubt he will). We'd smoke em in the CFP with or without Sorsby. 

Be hilarious if he bet on Indiana to win that game 

[jermhoosierfan]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Oh yeah you are right.  They changed that this year after the JMU disaster 

They could still put them at #12 and force them to play the #5 team at that teams field.  That would the toughest matchup they would get.  That would've been Oregon this last year which wouldn't have been an easy matchup. They got smoked by them in the QF in the Orange Bowl.  

[Demo]

Help an old guy out here. McAfee does nothing for me but I have nothing against him. Is he really all this? 60 mil a year?

[LIHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Demo said:

Help an old guy out here. McAfee does nothing for me but I have nothing against him. Is he really all this? 60 mil a year?

He's worth whatever someone is willing to pay him. Unfortunately, it probably means ESPN further gutting out anything that resembles journalism or fact finding they have left...and making all their channels/mediums another couple bucks a month.

[Pagoda]

15 minutes ago, Demo said:

Help an old guy out here. McAfee does nothing for me but I have nothing against him. Is he really all this? 60 mil a year?

I don’t watch him either, but he does pump out a ton of content: three hours per day Mon-Fri (400-450K avg audience) plus GameDay during CFB season and some other one offs.  I guess ESPN can sell enough ads to make it work.

It probably helps he’s especially strong in NFL and CFB which are of course the huge sports, plus the younger demo (no pun intended) likes him.

For me though, he does so much content he is often a mile wide and an inch deep which I don’t like, I’d rather listen to the deep dive nerds.

[Hoosierfan2017]

NBA max contract money for a tv personality is insane to me, but Pat made me a fan by riding hard for IU the past two years. He’s better than the other slop espn puts out there these days. 

[Demo]

26 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

He's worth whatever someone is willing to pay him. Unfortunately, it probably means ESPN further gutting out anything that resembles journalism or fact finding they have left...and making all their channels/mediums another couple bucks a month.

As we celebrate mediocrity

All the boys upstairs want to see

How much you’ll pay for what you used to get for free

Tom Petty- “The Last DJ”

 

[AKHoosier]

3 hours ago, American HoosierX said:

Pretty sure if they win their conference they would get an automatic bid.

Is that determined by conference? Because Duke didn't get in to the CFP even though they won the ACC.

[Stuhoo]

College football P4 conferences considering a boycott? The ball is in your court:

A Texas court scheduled Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby's trial against the NCAA for Feb. 8, 2027, two weeks after the College Football Playoff National Championship is scheduled to be played at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas.

The 99th District Court in Lubbock County, Texas, where Texas Tech is located, scheduled the trial Monday, the same day a judge granted Sorsby a temporary injunction that might clear him to play for the Red Raiders in 2026 even after the NCAA declared him ineligible for wagering on college sports.

The NCAA has already appealed Judge Ken Curry's ruling to the Court of Appeals for the Seventh District of Texas in Amarillo.

Each of the four justices in the Seventh District -- Chief Justice Judy Parker and Lawrence Doss, Alex Yarbrough and Laura Pratt -- are graduates of the Texas Tech School of Law, according to their online bios.

[Brass Cannon]

19 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Is that determined by conference? Because Duke didn't get in to the CFP even though they won the ACC.

Rules changed last year it was the top 4 ranked conference champs and JMU was ranked higher than Duke iirc

[LIHoosier]

12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Rules changed last year it was the top 4 ranked conference champs and JMU was ranked higher than Duke iirc

Its actually top 5 so that a group of 6 school can enter and save an anti-trust suit. Duke was 5th behind JMU and Tulane.

[skhoosier2]

8 hours ago, Pagoda said:

I don't know, I'd say this was pretty unexpected.  The sports world is shocked given the precedent penalties, like cases of tiny bets sometimes not even on CFB resulting in player bans.  The betting markets had this priced as a ~90%+ chance he would be ineligible.

Betting can be an addiction.  But two thoughts with this situation:
1) Addiction does not exempt someone from penalties and consequences.  Nor does treatment involve playing CFB.  I really don't understand what the judge was thinking.

2) I can't know for sure, but I'm not buying this "addiction."  His behavior looks a lot like someone who enjoys gambling.  $90K bet across 2,900 wagers is $31 per bet.  And he did this over four years.  He's probably +/- $10-20K over four years, which is not crazy, especially for all the money he's made playing CFB.  He's not destroying his finances or spiraling.  I've got friends who bet that much. 

Gambling shifts from a bad habit to a serious problem when the amounts bet get very large, the person inevitably chases losses and loses big money, and their financial and personal life spiral as a result.  No one saw anything like this with Brendan.  Treating what Brendan did as an "addiction" that was miraculously cured in a 35 day rehab program makes a mockery of people with serious gambling addition problems that need to work on it a day at time for the rest of their lives.  I find it annoying and I'm not ready to sympathize with what I think is most likely an addiction manufactured for his eligibility defense.

I dunno, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  I think everyone can see this one stinks to high heaven.  

Oh I don't think he was miraculously cured but with young people in college betting is a serious problem.  Most don't have that kind of money to bet but once they start and make money they just can't stop no matter if it's $1, 10, or 100.  I was also not saying he was exempt from consequences.  UC should not be exempt either because IF they did leak it and knew, how do you not get the kid help football be damned.  I do not think he should play.  It's a VERY bad precedent to set.  You will have kids point shaving and even now I think you have to question whether that's going on with players that are surely doing it hoping they don't get caught or even the refs.

I expected the injunction.  I knew it was coming from a Texas judge.  I actually was surprised it was 2 games and not 6.  Either way it's wrong. NCAA will appeal but who knows if they win.  They don't have a very good track record in court when the injunctions are awarded. 

I am sympathetic to the kid himself not the situation.  I hate to see any young person throw away an opportunity he had because of foolish decisions. That is life though and it's all a learning experience.  It will definitely HELP someone.  I doubt he is going to stop betting.  If it was that easy to stop, he would have a long time ago. Hopefully they have plenty of oversight in place but there are ways around it.  We knew a baseball player a few years back that was betting through his cousin.  if they want to do it, they find a way to do it.  It's unfortunate.  I suspect the pressure gets TTU and they will have to bench him.  He may sue them if he can't play because of said pressure and they will be on the hook for NIL.  It kind of appears he will win either way IF the scenario plays out this way.  There's still a chance the B12 suspends him I guess.  Again, I think the coming weeks will be interesting with how this plays out.