2016 (F) Freddie McSwain Jr. to IU

[Alford Bailey]

I'm fine with this. Crean hasn't brought in tranfers to sit so tells me he is good enough to play. Probably wont be as good as good Troy or as bad as bad Troy.

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I'm fine with this. Crean hasn't brought in tranfers to sit so tells me he is good enough to play. Probably won't be as good as good Troy or as bad as bad Troy.

 

And Alford Bailey throws down the microphone.

 

[Bryan Medema]

I'm fine with this. Crean hasn't brought in tranfers to sit so tells me he is good enough to play. Probably wont be as good as good Troy or as bad as bad Troy.

Absolutely perfect summary.

[hoosierpap]

13 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

 

 

It's been laid out there pretty clearly. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding or believing here as coaches have laid it out there for you and it hasn't sunk in so I think I am wasting my time. You've heard it from coaches and I've heard it from a player. It's a real problem that Could be minimized

I think it's important to note that while you use my information from some disgruntled coaches, they are the minority. Yes, I agree it's a problem. It's a problem because that minority yells about it and has made it one.

Reasonable minds can disagree.

 

 

[ALASKA HOOSIER]

As long as Freddie McSlam is consistent and can give us some defense, rebounds, points....i'm all in!

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, ALASKA HOOSIER said:

As long as Freddie McSlam is consistent and can give us some defense, rebounds, points....i'm all in!

 

Then you may not be "all in" for quite a little while, Alaska.

Freddie is raw, and he's going to be our 10th or 11th man next year.  He's in line behind TB, DrD, CH, OG, and JM for frontline minutes.

If he can be a completely solid citizen, turn into a practice plus this year, and develop enough to give us a little good run if injuries hit, he will be a great get this year. By next year he can hopefully be a big energy source for the '17-'18 team.

 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Then you may not be all in in for quite a little while, Alaska.

Freddie is raw, and he's going to be our 10th or 11th man next year.  He's in line behind TB, DrD, CH, OG, and JM for frontline minutes.

If he can be a completely solid citizen, turn into a practice plus this year, and develop enough to give us a little good run if injuries hit, he will be a great get this year. By next year he can hopefully be a big energy source for the '17-'18 team.

 

Eh, if the guy won't be a contributor next year then I don't know what the staff is trying to accomplish. Lots of talent available in the '17 class capable of contributing from day 1. 

[hoosierwhodey]

One thing to keep in mind is that he isn't replacing Troy. OG will slide into that role. Freddie just needs to give us what OG did last year, which is energy and D off the bench.

[Stuhoo]

13 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Eh, if the guy won't be a contributor next year then I don't know what the staff is trying to accomplish. Lots of talent available in the '17 class capable of contributing from day 1. 

 

In theory? Freddie can fill his role effectively for two years, something a freshman with high expectations might not be as tuned in to doing from day one.

 

[Dalton26]

One thing to keep in mind is that he isn't replacing Troy. OG will slide into that role. Freddie just needs to give us what OG did last year, which is energy and D off the bench.

I didn't even look at it that way. I'd still rather keep Troy but looking at it as OG taking over for Troy rather than Freddie taking over for Troy eases my concerns.

[HoosierAloha]

Not really sure how I feel about this.

If Troy stays in the draft:

- Freddie adds depth behind OG, Hartman, and JMor on the wing/stretch 4.

- Tremendous athlete who could be a plus rebounder and defender

- Two year commitment

If Troy returns:

- Might be 5th or 6th on depth chart at the wing or stretch 4

- Will he be happy with so little time

- Fewer ships for great 2017 class

Anyways, congrats Freddie. It should be interesting to see how he develops and how he is used in the rotation.

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[akhosrof]

I love this addition to the team. You can never have too many 6'6"-6'8" wings who can guard, crash the boards, and run the court. Depth has hurt us the past couple of seasons. Because of injuries last season our bench was depleted. Our starters got in foul trouble which takes away from the team's aggressiveness. This season we will have a deep bench. More fouls to give. More bodies to play defense, more shooters.

Crean loves to use the athletic, long wing players. It depends on if the guys buy in. OG bought in and his impact on the game went well beyond the stat line. McSwain can have that same impact this season.

Both OG and Morgan got significant minutes as freshmen. In the NCAA tournament we still could have used another athletic wing or two. No doubt McSwain will be in the rotation, even if Troy comes back. OG, Morgan and McSwain can all guard the wing, or play as a stretch four if we want to run the court. I'm excited to see all the different lineup combinations next season.

[Hardwood83]

1 hour ago, akhosrof said:

I love this addition to the team. You can never have too many 6'6"-6'8" wings who can guard, crash the boards, and run the court. Depth has hurt us the past couple of seasons. Because of injuries last season our bench was depleted. Our starters got in foul trouble which takes away from the team's aggressiveness. This season we will have a deep bench. More fouls to give. More bodies to play defense, more shooters.

Crean loves to use the athletic, long wing players. It depends on if the guys buy in. OG bought in and his impact on the game went well beyond the stat line. McSwain can have that same impact this season.

Both OG and Morgan got significant minutes as freshmen. In the NCAA tournament we still could have used another athletic wing or two. No doubt McSwain will be in the rotation, even if Troy comes back. OG, Morgan and McSwain can all guard the wing, or play as a stretch four if we want to run the court. I'm excited to see all the different lineup combinations next season.

No kidding, we just saw with Carolina what a luxury it is to have waves of big athletic guys off the bench. I would still love to pick up a true back-up Center via Grad transfer, a la Max. 

[Old Friend]

Kid was all conference, all region, and the MVP of his regional post season tournament.   I think he's got some upside, and probably some ability.  Better than Hanner or so it would seem; and he has the ability to step out and shoot it.   Perhaps he's Steve Hart?  (A little bigger)    Who knows?   I still say Indiana is better without Williams.  One man's opinion.

[Stuhoo]

I just listened to the podcast interview of his junior college coach. The athleticism that the coach described is a given, but the thing that impressed me the most which was not a given is that Freddie is a gym rat who has improved exponentially since he started playing the game of basketball. The coach described an extremely gracious and humble kid who is loved by teachers, classmates, and opponents, but that when Freddie gets between the lines of the basketball court the switch flips and he plays with incredible passion.


Finally, he said that Freddie was way under the radar because he lived in small-town Georgia where the only game in town was football, and so that's what Freddie played until his junior year of high school. Once he started playing basketball, he never touched the AAU circuit. The coach said that by the time he committed to Indiana Freddie had piled up 25 Division I offers.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Good post Stuhoo. Going to be fun seeing this kid play.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Freddie Mc"Fly"

Thoughts?

B2F reference

[Parakeet Jones]

Freddie Mc"Fly"

Thoughts?

B2F reference

With a name like Freddie McSwain Jr., do you really need a nickname? This might be my favorite all time name of an IU player.

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[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

Freddie Mc"Fly"

Thoughts?

B2F reference

I doubt you need to clarify the reference, biff tannen

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[Jketch]

He has signed