Dalton26 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 To call him an overrated recruit as a top 20 pick cause he didn't live up to impossible standards of a starved fan base makes 0 sense to me. If you have to win a title to be not overrated then I guess he was screwed from the start. All yogi did was stay 4 years he had 2 good years and 2 not great. I love Yogi one of my favorites but he didn't mean more as a recruit then Cody.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYou keep twisting the argument into something it’s not. Good player but he didn’t turn around our program like people claim. It’s really that simple. What pick someone was in the draft literally mean nothing in this conversation which is why I mentioned yogi. You keep throwing out this useless fact for no apparent reason. janaslama 1 Quote
BtownBanner6 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 You keep twisting the argument into something it’s not. Good player but he didn’t turn around our program like people claim. It’s really that simple. What pick someone was in the draft literally mean nothing in this conversation which is why I mentioned yogi. You keep throwing out this useless fact for no apparent reason. I haven't twisted the argument into anything, you brought up Yogi. I guess I was unaware you were basing this off him being a "program savior". Anyone who thought one kid could change a program after years of incompetence is the real problem then.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Dalton26 1 Quote
BtownBanner6 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 However program changed or not I won't take anything away of what he meant. 3 years prior had a combine record of 28-66, then two years he is here 56-16 and yeah other players like Vic improving helped. But a winning culture was established and his coach couldn't keep it up.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners 8bucks, WayneFleekHoosier and MikeRoberts 3 Quote
Dalton26 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 I haven't twisted the argument into anything, you brought up Yogi. I guess I was unaware you were basing this off him being a "program savior". Anyone who thought one kid could change a program after years of incompetence is the real problem then.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI mentioned Yogi because you referenced draft picks. No one can tell me Yogi was any less valuable than Zeller based on where they were drafted which was the point I was trying to make. That’s been my argument the whole time. I’ve always said Cody was a very good player, but he didnt save the program like some IU fans believed at the time and some still believe now. I love Cody and I’m glad he played at IU. I’ll take 20 guys like him, but I don’t expect him to put us back on the map as one of the best programs. BtownBanner6 1 Quote
Popular Post Hoosierfan2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2017 Oh Romeo, where art thou Romeo conversation? hoosierknight1, swingline91, HooHooHoo22 and 14 others 17 Quote
Popular Post ALASKA HOOSIER Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2017 Move the conversation elsewhere turds! This is the romeo thread! - hugs all aroundSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha, Dalton26, IUBBFan1970 and 14 others 17 Quote
mamasa Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Move the conversation elsewhere turds! This is the romeo thread! - hugs all aroundSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile appHovaHugs!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
AKHoosier Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Dalton26 said: We didn’t contend for a national championship and recruits didn’t flock to IU to play with him. His career stats were right on with DJ White give or take a couple pts/blocks. DJ is one of my favorites of all time but no one talks about him as some phenomenal recruit like they do Zeller when they had the same IU career except DJ played here longer. I see people comment about the #1 ranking while Zeller was here which honestly doesn’t mean a thing if you can’t get the job done. Don’t get me wrong I love Cody but let’s not pretend like he was some program savior that he really wasn’t. smh this is so wrong. Yogi committed two weeks after Zeller did and BECAUSE of Zeller. We did contend for a championship with him here. I'd say if you are ranked a large portion of the year #1, among the pre-season title favorites, and go to a Sweet 16, then you contended for a championship. Which is extremely ambiguous anyway, I mean couldn't you make the argument that any team who makes the tournament technically contends for a championship? Who cares about career stats? That's just not that relevant when trying to make the argument someone is overrated, because it doesn't paint the whole picture. The year before he arrived, we were 12-20 and 11th in the B1G. The year he arrived, we were 27-9 and 5th in the B1G. Then we went 29-7 and won the B1G. Those results were not even remotely possible without Zeller. Again, you're trying to strengthen your argument by using ambiguous, non-measurable things like "contending for a championship" and "program savior". The point is, if we didn't get Zeller in 2011, we had no real backup plan except for Robert Goff, who would not have given us nearly the improvement Cody did. It wasn't Cody's fault we didn't win it all. Iugradman, 8bucks and BGleas 3 Quote
Dalton26 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 smh this is so wrong. Yogi committed two weeks after Zeller did and BECAUSE of Zeller. We did contend for a championship with him here. I'd say if you are ranked a large portion of the year #1, among the pre-season title favorites, and go to a Sweet 16, then you contended for a championship. Which is extremely ambiguous anyway, I mean couldn't you make the argument that any team who makes the tournament technically contends for a championship? Who cares about career stats? That's just not that relevant when trying to make the argument someone is overrated, because it doesn't paint the whole picture. The year before he arrived, we were 12-20 and 11th in the B1G. The year he arrived, we were 27-9 and 5th in the B1G. Then we went 29-7 and won the B1G. Those results were not even remotely possible without Zeller. Again, you're trying to strengthen your argument by using ambiguous, non-measurable things like "contending for a championship" and "program savior". The point is, if we didn't get Zeller in 2011, we had no real backup plan except for Robert Goff, who would not have given us nearly the improvement Cody did. It wasn't Cody's fault we didn't win it all. Smh this is so laughable. This had moved back to Romeo so I’ll save my response for another day/thread. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app IUsafety, ALASKA HOOSIER, Stuhoo and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2017 Hey guys; gonna start a "Cody Zeller Importance" thread. Keep this thread Romeo-ish please! Crimson and Cream, JHoosier914, Iugradman and 6 others 9 Quote
mdn82 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Wonder what football game Romeo checks out next week? Can't fault him as he is getting to see a whose who week to week.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Old Friend Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Dalton26 said: I’ve said numerous times I think he was a good player but I think you all are selling him a little too high. It’s fine we can disagree and there’s nothing wrong with that. Old friend you’ve been here a long time you should know I put 99.9% of the blame on Crean. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Yes I do. And civilly agreeing to disagree is what boards like these are about. Peace..Go Hoosiers! Dalton26, ALASKA HOOSIER and Stromboli 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Wonder what football game Romeo checks out next week? Can't fault him as he is getting to see a whose who week to week.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersRumor is that he is saving one official visit for a trip to Foxboro, MA. ;)Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Wonder what football game Romeo checks out next week? Can't fault him as he is getting to see a whose who week to week.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Am I in a Cody debate or the Romeo recruiting thread?Sent from my SM-G930V using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
croneleoni Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Zeller absolutely made us a contender. His full talents and overall success of the team were held back by Crean. Blame Crean for us not winning a national title. If we don't blow very winnable games against Illinois, Butler, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, we aren't even in Syracuse's bracket. Even with that loss, we were the number 1 overall seed in the tournament. The committee stuck us with a bad match up.Sent from my LGLS992 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Even with that loss, we were the number 1 overall seed in the tournament. The committee stuck us with a bad match up. Sent from my LGLS992 using BtownBanners mobile app Romeo Langford is good at basketball and your statement is false. We were the 3rd overall number 1 seed that year. Louisville was the number 1 overall and Kansas was 2 http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9063277/2013-ncaa-tournament-louisville-cardinals-named-top-overall-seed Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 We should be spending our time coming up with creative ways to impress Romeo on his visit. Cool chants, a big head, etc. IUBBFan1970, ALASKA HOOSIER and Iugradman 3 Quote
croneleoni Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Romeo Langford is good at basketball and your statement is false. We were the 3rd overall number 1 seed that year. Louisville was the number 1 overall and Kansas was 2 http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9063277/2013-ncaa-tournament-louisville-cardinals-named-top-overall-seed Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI saw that after putting my statement but I swore remembering seeing IU shown first in the selection show. The first one shown is the number 1 overall seed. Age must have gotten the best of me.Sent from my LGLS992 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 Curious to see how we as a fan base can make it fun for each kid. Also curious to see the new video package. HH needs a good turnout. Of course the kids will have to do the walk across the court to their seats. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Iugradman 1 Quote
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