(2018) PG Robert Phinisee to Cincinnati

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

I've been on board the Phinisee bus for a long time and am ecstatic that he's coming to IU and I fully expect him to be our starting PG next year.  One concern that I have, and I hope others that have watched him play multiple times will chime in, is that I've not seen any alpha male aggressiveness on the court with respect to his teammates.  He plays with very little expression or emotion and rarely questions any officiating call that doesn't go his way.  We clearly need a floor leader in more than just basketball skills which he definitely has, but I'm not sure he has the in-your-face moxie when teammates mess up.  Again, that's my perception and I'm interested in what some of you may think in this regard.  

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I've been on board the Phinisee bus for a long time and am ecstatic that he's coming to IU and I fully expect him to be our starting PG next year.  One concern that I have, and I hope others that have watched him play multiple times will chime in, is that I've not seen any alpha male aggressiveness on the court with respect to his teammates.  He plays with very little expression or emotion and rarely questions any officiating call that doesn't go his way.  We clearly need a floor leader in more than just basketball skills which he definitely has, but I'm not sure he has the in-your-face moxie when teammates mess up.  Again, that's my perception and I'm interested in what some of you may think in this regard.  

I have only watched him once and you're right he didn't do those kinds of things, but those are characteristics that grow and you have to be comfortable doing them. I have very rarely seen that at the high school level it's just hard for 17 yr old kids to want to tell his friends what they did wrong. But like Yogi did eventually I fully expect Robert to be comfortable doing this in time.


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[Bigred3588]

On 1/8/2018 at 10:23 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I've been on board the Phinisee bus for a long time and am ecstatic that he's coming to IU and I fully expect him to be our starting PG next year.  One concern that I have, and I hope others that have watched him play multiple times will chime in, is that I've not seen any alpha male aggressiveness on the court with respect to his teammates.  He plays with very little expression or emotion and rarely questions any officiating call that doesn't go his way.  We clearly need a floor leader in more than just basketball skills which he definitely has, but I'm not sure he has the in-your-face moxie when teammates mess up.  Again, that's my perception and I'm interested in what some of you may think in this regard.  

I don’t think we’ll see a lot of vocal leadership early in his career but his play seems far from passive. My understanding is that he’s had more talent around him in the past and was expected to step up on the offensive end more this year. He’s definitely showing that he can score if he wants to. He also seems to have a track record of winning. 

I would say the same about the way Anderson is playing this year. He chose to return to his team over LaLumiere and he’s leading them to a great season.

Vocal leadership is obviously important, but I think we have some guys coming in that want to be part of a team and expect to win. Players like that will ultimately hold each other accountable. 

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I don’t think we’ll see a lot of vocal leadership early in his career but his play seems far from passive. My understanding is that he’s had more talent around him in the past and was expected to step up on the offensive end more this year. He’s definitely showing that he can score if he wants to. He also seems to have a track record of winning. 
I would say the same about the way Anderson is playing this year. He chose to return to his team over LaLumiere and he’s leading them to a great season.
Vocal leadership is obviously important, but I think we have some guys coming in that want to be part of a team and expect to win. Players like that will ultimately hold each other accountable. 

I've always had a fondness for Anderson's game. Winning seems like the most important thing to him. He puts up good numbers but they win and win a lot. Honestly, I've been Phinisee's harshest critic and most of that is comparing film to Darius Garland. But this year he is putting up incredible numbers. Excited to see what he can do in college. I'm still worried about some aspects so we will see, but I'm encouraged.

Hunter seems like he could be a superstar when/if he puts it al together. Forrester will better fit Archie system from the aspect of quickness and versatility. Good foundation class. Not sure how "instant" it'll be but I'm excited to find out.


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[Bigred3588]

23 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Hunter seems like he could be a superstar when/if he puts it al together. Forrester will better fit Archie system from the aspect of quickness and versatility. Good foundation class. Not sure how "instant" it'll be but I'm excited to find out.


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I’m not expecting a Duke/Kentucky level of performance from our freshmen because it just isn’t that kind of talent, but I do think it’s a great foundation and the type of team we’ll be proud to call Hoosiers. A bunch of guys with McRoberts’ heart and the talent to match playing disciplined basketball. Forrester is the only one that I’m not expecting much from. I just think he’ll be in the bottom of our rotation for most of his career and hopefully give some role player minutes toward the end.

My only concern is the unbalanced roster but that usually works itself out through transfers or early entries to the NBA. If we get Langford, he’s probably gone after a year or two if we’re lucky. I could see Hunter becoming an early-entry guy as well. Throw in the inevitable transfer or two and the classes start to even out.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

2:59 left in game Zionsville 56 McCutcheon 45.    Phinisee 20 pts.

35 sec. left Zionsville 60 McCutcheon 55.   Phinisee with 27 pts.

Final score Zionsville 65  McCutcheon 59.   Phinisee with 31 pts.

Did about all he could do to pull it out, just not quite enough.

[Bailey7878]

2:59 left in game Zionsville 56 McCutcheon 45.    Phinisee 20 pts.
35 sec. left Zionsville 60 McCutcheon 55.   Phinisee with 27 pts.
Final score Zionsville 65  McCutcheon 59.   Phinisee with 31 pts.
Did about all he could do to pull it out, just not quite enough.

What does he average per game?

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[Brass Cannon]

16 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

What does he average per game?

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30.4 without that game so maybe 30.5 

[Brass Cannon]

Hes also dishing out 5.9 assists per game so hes directly involved in between 42.3 to 48.2. 

Not sure whatvthe team is averaging.  Also grabbing 6.1 boards a game

EDIT

Just did the math Rob is directly involved in somewhere between 62%-71% of his teams scoring. Not counting hockey assists or FTs that he may help get drawn. 

 

[Hoosier Guy]

Phinisee is gonna be great for IU. I love that him and Damezi are from enemy territory in the state

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Zionsville - McCutcheon game summary.  Zionsville is undefeated so it wasn't like McC got beat by a slouch and these 2 are in the same sectional and could very well meet again.

http://www.jconline.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/01/13/zionsville-withstands-mccutcheon-second-half-rally/1031742001/

[ccgeneral]

Another big game brewing..

@KLTHOMPSON: End first quarter: McCutcheon 31, Crawfordsville 10. Robert Phinisee has 17, including three consecutive old-fashioned 3-point plays.

[Stromboli]

Rob doing work on Twitter too

 

[ccgeneral]

@TylerSmith_ISL: IU recruit @robphinisee1 had 36 points, 9 assists, 9 rebounds, 6 steals tonight.  He didn't play in the 4th quarter. #iubb

[WayneFleekHoosier]

@TylerSmith_ISL: IU recruit @robphinisee1 had 36 points, 9 assists, 9 rebounds, 6 steals tonight.  He didn't play in the 4th quarter. #iubb

Woot woot!


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

4 minutes ago, ccgeneral said:

@TylerSmith_ISL: IU recruit @robphinisee1 had 36 points, 9 assists, 9 rebounds, 6 steals tonight.  He didn't play in the 4th quarter. #iubb

Slacker!   He is gonna look so good in candystripes.  

[Old Friend]

8 minutes ago, ccgeneral said:

@TylerSmith_ISL: IU recruit @robphinisee1 had 36 points, 9 assists, 9 rebounds, 6 steals tonight.  He didn't play in the 4th quarter. #iubb

This is my horse.  I saw him play in the state finals as a sophomore; and I could see it even when his body was not yet developed.  Tis kid is fantastic and WAY better than his ranking.  Likely a 4 year player; and as much as I want Romeo; this is the kid I wanted most.  He is now showing what he really is....we're gonna love him.

[Brass Cannon]

Wow possible quadruple double chance passed

[Stuhoo]

This is my horse.  I saw him play in the state finals as a sophomore; and I could see it even when his body was not yet developed.  Tis kid is fantastic and WAY better than his ranking.  Likely a 4 year player; and as much as I want Romeo; this is the kid I wanted most.  He is now showing what he really is....we're gonna love him.

Joel Berry-ish?



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[Old Friend]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Joel Berry-ish?



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Think he'll do more as a freshman than Berry did, but I'd say that's a good comparison.  Phinsee is just smart.  He knows where team mates need the ball, he is a natural leader who can run an offense, and he lets scoring come to him.  When he plays with the best kids his age, he always looks like he belongs.  (at least when I've seen him)   If he fails, I'll look foolish because I've been bullish on him for a long time....and I have zero worries.