College Bball Thread

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I still can't figure out what was going on at the presser after Glass fired Crean. It sure seemed like he was calling for Alford to come back to IU. There weren't that many fellows who filled all his check-plus-plus or double-check-plus (or whatever the hell it was) criteria, except for Alford. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he went into the search with Alford at the top of his list, then got a bunch of backlash from fans, alumni, etc., not interested in bringing him back for myriad reasons -- including his handling of the Pierre Pierce incident and the simple fact that he hasn't proven himself to be an elite coach. 

That is possible

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[Chris007]

6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I still can't figure out what was going on at the presser after Glass fired Crean. It sure seemed like he was calling for Alford to come back to IU. There weren't that many fellows who filled all his check-plus-plus or double-check-plus (or whatever the hell it was) criteria, except for Alford. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he went into the search with Alford at the top of his list, then got a bunch of backlash from fans, alumni, etc., not interested in bringing him back for myriad reasons -- including his handling of the Pierre Pierce incident and the simple fact that he hasn't proven himself to be an elite coach. 

I think it was a head fake more than anything but also Alford refused to interview for the job, either give it to him or not he said. 

[Magnanimous]

6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I still can't figure out what was going on at the presser after Glass fired Crean. It sure seemed like he was calling for Alford to come back to IU. There weren't that many fellows who filled all his check-plus-plus or double-check-plus (or whatever the hell it was) criteria, except for Alford. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he went into the search with Alford at the top of his list, then got a bunch of backlash from fans, alumni, etc., not interested in bringing him back for myriad reasons -- including his handling of the Pierre Pierce incident and the simple fact that he hasn't proven himself to be an elite coach. 

Alford was simply Crean without the burned bridges to Indiana HS coaches. It would have been a terrible hire.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

NCAA proposal re:  transfers and grad-transfers.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/working-group-supports-notification-transfer-proposal

[LamarCheeks]

20 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

NCAA proposal re:  transfers and grad-transfers.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/working-group-supports-notification-transfer-proposal

Interesting about the grad transfers. ... It's true that some players who finish their degrees and have a year of eligibility remaining leave for greener pastures (Trey Porter, Ryan Taylor, etc.) or because they want to play in the NCAAs and figure their current team has no shot. But what about guys like Max Bielfelt, who were told by their coach (Beilien) that they won't have a scholarship for a fifth season? Or Matt Roth, who could've played somewhere a his fifth season had he wanted. Should a school be "punished" for taking them in when they were essentially booted from their old programs? 

[HoosierHoops1]

4 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Interesting about the grad transfers. ... It's true that some players who finish their degrees and have a year of eligibility remaining leave for greener pastures (Trey Porter, Ryan Taylor, etc.) or because they want to play in the NCAAs and figure their current team has no shot. But what about guys like Max Bielfelt, who were told by their coach (Beilien) that they won't have a scholarship for a fifth season? Or Matt Roth, who could've played somewhere a his fifth season had he wanted. Should a school be "punished" for taking them in when they were essentially booted from their old programs? 

Rationale for that? What's with people wanting people compensated for nothing?

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Hopefully they don't pass the "everyone can transfer" rule. A 3.0 GPA is incredibly easy, especially with all the resources athletes have. It would open up Pandora's box. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

I think it was a head fake more than anything but also Alford refused to interview for the job, either give it to him or not he said. 

What a prick.


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[HoosierHoops1]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Hopefully they don't pass the "everyone can transfer" rule. A 3.0 GPA is incredibly easy, especially with all the resources athletes have. It would open up Pandora's box. 

Then there would be coaches advocating for more difficult testing to keep gpa's low and hiring anti-Marnies so the tutors would suck.

It would be a mess overall.

[AZ Hoosier]

9 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I think it was a head fake more than anything but also Alford refused to interview for the job, either give it to him or not he said. 

and we all know how that ended. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Zagsblog - 

 

South Carolina freshman Brian Bowen will declare for the NBA Draft in case the NCAA does not clear him to play next season for the Gamecocks, he told ESPN.Bowen will not sign with an agent at this time so he can sustain his NCAA eligibility. “I just felt that it was the right decision,” Bowen told ESPN. “My goal is still to play college basketball, but I felt as though it makes sense to cover my bases.”Bowen was admitted to South Carolina in January after he transferred from Louisville when the news came out that his family was involved in the FBI probe into college basketball corruption.“This is a mature move from Brian,” Bowen’s lawyer, Jason Setchen said. “We’re hopeful and have faith that the NCAA will make the right decision and allow Brian to play next season for South Carolina, but he’ll also have the opportunity to be drafted if that doesn’t happen.”A five-star recruit coming out of high school, Bowen was a McDonald’s All-American and regarded as one of the best pure scorers in the 2017 class.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

NBC Sports -

The Ohio State men’s basketball program has been hit with some of the stupidest recruiting violations I’ve ever heard of.

According to a report from The Lantern, three basketball recruits and one football recruit were on campus on September 9th and, during the visit, took a trip to the set of ESPN Gameday, which was in town for the Ohio State-Oklahoma football game.

During that trip to set, the recruits all met former Ohio State players Kirk Herbstreit, who works for ESPN, and Eddie George, who was a guest picker that day, as well as two other ESPN personalities. Recruits are allowed to meet former players on their visit to campus. They aren’t, however, allowed to meet with the media, and since ESPN’s Gameday staff is considered to be media, Ohio State technically committed a recruiting violation.

Now this is where things get a little bit messy.

According to the story from the Lantern, the football staff self-reported the violation, ended their recruitment of the football player involved and suspended the staff member responsible for the violation for one game. The basketball program, however, very likely landed commitments from two of the recruits. While Ohio State will not confirm which players were specifically involved, reports from the websites that track these things list just three players — USC commit Elijah Weaver and two Ohio State commits, JaeDon Lee and Luther Muhammad — as being on a visit that weekend.

As a result, the NCAA has reportedly ruled the three basketball players ineligible pending an appeal — which, I would bet the naming rights of my second-born son on, they will win even if it costs them a game or two — while ruling that Scoonie Penn, who coordinated the violation, to be suspended for a game.

All because the recruits had a chance to visit the set of College Gameday and got a chance to meet some ESPN TV personalities who probably could not have cared less about the kids they were meeting.

[yogisballin]

NBC Sports -
The Ohio State men’s basketball program has been hit with some of the stupidest recruiting violations I’ve ever heard of.
According to a report from The Lantern, three basketball recruits and one football recruit were on campus on September 9th and, during the visit, took a trip to the set of ESPN Gameday, which was in town for the Ohio State-Oklahoma football game.
During that trip to set, the recruits all met former Ohio State players Kirk Herbstreit, who works for ESPN, and Eddie George, who was a guest picker that day, as well as two other ESPN personalities. Recruits are allowed to meet former players on their visit to campus. They aren’t, however, allowed to meet with the media, and since ESPN’s Gameday staff is considered to be media, Ohio State technically committed a recruiting violation.
Now this is where things get a little bit messy.
According to the story from the Lantern, the football staff self-reported the violation, ended their recruitment of the football player involved and suspended the staff member responsible for the violation for one game. The basketball program, however, very likely landed commitments from two of the recruits. While Ohio State will not confirm which players were specifically involved, reports from the websites that track these things list just three players — USC commit Elijah Weaver and two Ohio State commits, JaeDon Lee and Luther Muhammad — as being on a visit that weekend.
As a result, the NCAA has reportedly ruled the three basketball players ineligible pending an appeal — which, I would bet the naming rights of my second-born son on, they will win even if it costs them a game or two — while ruling that Scoonie Penn, who coordinated the violation, to be suspended for a game.
All because the recruits had a chance to visit the set of College Gameday and got a chance to meet some ESPN TV personalities who probably could not have cared less about the kids they were meeting.

That’s crazy


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[HoosierHoops1]

8 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

That’s crazy


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It is crazy, but not nearly crazy as 2 players being suspended for 9 games because their legal guardians ex-wife bought a bumper sticker from their eventual university before they were born.

[Deserthoozier]

24 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

It is crazy, but not nearly crazy as 2 players being suspended for 9 games because their legal guardians ex-wife bought a bumper sticker from their eventual university before they were born.

Nor is it nearly as crazy as institutional support  of 18 years of fake classes for athletes without even a slap on the wrist from the NCAA. If I was The OSU administration, I would send a presser with a smiley face and poop emoji and just play the two and totally ignore it. What a complete joke the NCAA is!

[pumpfake]

14 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

NBC Sports -

The Ohio State men’s basketball program has been hit with some of the stupidest recruiting violations I’ve ever heard of.

According to a report from The Lantern, three basketball recruits and one football recruit were on campus on September 9th and, during the visit, took a trip to the set of ESPN Gameday, which was in town for the Ohio State-Oklahoma football game.

During that trip to set, the recruits all met former Ohio State players Kirk Herbstreit, who works for ESPN, and Eddie George, who was a guest picker that day, as well as two other ESPN personalities. Recruits are allowed to meet former players on their visit to campus. They aren’t, however, allowed to meet with the media, and since ESPN’s Gameday staff is considered to be media, Ohio State technically committed a recruiting violation.

Now this is where things get a little bit messy.

According to the story from the Lantern, the football staff self-reported the violation, ended their recruitment of the football player involved and suspended the staff member responsible for the violation for one game. The basketball program, however, very likely landed commitments from two of the recruits. While Ohio State will not confirm which players were specifically involved, reports from the websites that track these things list just three players — USC commit Elijah Weaver and two Ohio State commits, JaeDon Lee and Luther Muhammad — as being on a visit that weekend.

As a result, the NCAA has reportedly ruled the three basketball players ineligible pending an appeal — which, I would bet the naming rights of my second-born son on, they will win even if it costs them a game or two — while ruling that Scoonie Penn, who coordinated the violation, to be suspended for a game.

All because the recruits had a chance to visit the set of College Gameday and got a chance to meet some ESPN TV personalities who probably could not have cared less about the kids they were meeting.

OSU just broke Rule #1: Never self-report violations (especially very minor ones).

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, pumpfake said:

OSU just broke Rule #1: Never self-report violations (especially very minor ones).

Yep. No joke. God I wish the power conferences would break off and form their own organization. 

[Hoosiers96]

Sorry I had to laugh at this from the Purdue board


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[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Hoosiers96 said:

Sorry I had to laugh at this from the Purdue board


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To be fair MSU is closer to them in total titles. Might be better suited as a rival

[HoosierHoops1]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

To be fair MSU is closer to them in total titles. Might be better suited as a rival

Yeah you're right. Our only rivals are UCLA, pUKe, UNC, Duke and Uconn. Another title or 2 and Kansas will be right there.